Man an ILX where it's not ok to laugh at the Schreibs is an ILX I am a stranger to
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
I think we're supposed to focus on the fact that Century Media put out the reissue, you guys.
― Murgatroid, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
yeah the difference in score is not what's silly, it just shows up their top-down hivebrand strategy as silly
also, they got it right first time
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
if it got changed like, a week later, that would be a bad look
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, November 20, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
They actually did that for Sufjan Stevens' Michigan album. Original review gave it an OK score and they came back a couple weeks later and ran an all-new review after the album caught on with the rest of the editorial team.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link
'90s Pitchfork may not be a fair target, but really... http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/1319-the-cars-deluxe-edition/
"And listening to The Cars: Deluxe Edition, you can see why interest feigned."
― jmm, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link
And listened they did
― peace on earth and mercy mild (how's life), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
I'm glad some of those classic early reviews are still archived here and there even if they've been expunged from pitchfork itself
― i have sounded the very dub step of humility (anonanon), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
Other tracks show the band getting overly playful-- when the drumbeat changes toward the end of the classic single "Just What I Needed," it throws the song off course and steals some of the glory from its anthemic feel.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
See, the Cars were great in their time. The scene needed them. They bridged the gap between the Ramones and Elvis Costello.
O RLY?
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link
never forget: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/6656-kid-a/
― deX! (DJP), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link
xp see I started trying to construct a devil's advocate defence there based on the possibility of maybe only knowing very select EC songs and then I thought wtf am I doing
― too much Michu, not enough meta (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link
xp masterpiece. it's almost like a luriqua post or something
― flopson, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link
white pearls of arena light swam over their faces!
― Statham. Versus. Franco. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
I need to take a cold shower after reading 50 shades of Kid A
― Statham. Versus. Franco. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link
There are rarely traditional arrangements in the ambiguous origin.
― international mons day (wins), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link
I do like how the how the pearls swam. It acknowledges wave-particle duality.
― Statham. Versus. Franco. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
But arena light isn't very coherent, so Brent shouldn't notice.
This is probably my favorite sentence in the English language, no lie: --> The butterscotch lamps along the walls of the tight city square bled upward into the cobalt sky, which seemed as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap.
― deX! (DJP), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link
Fantasia refs are pretty good
― Statham. Versus. Franco. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link
My boiling brain oozed out of my appalled honeydew ears.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link
babelfork
― international mons day (wins), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link
bands like the Talking Heads, Blondie and Devo started springing up out of the woodwork and the losers ate it up like Toffee bars.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link
love it when schreibs goes all hardboiled gravelly-voiced "i was there", it's like a 22 yr old playing a tough gangster in a student film.
well sure. but there's been a lot of talk about how ratings are discussed/decided from the top down, and the author of the first review still owns the site and presumably wouldn't have run the second one if he wasn't okay with the implicit rebuke of his old opinion. which i think is more a good thing than a dumb thing overall but w/e. xp
― some dude, Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:23 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
Yeah for sure and sorry to get all serious but it's also kind of interesting to see the kinds of stuff that P4k is willing to walk back 10 years later when they have an opportunity and the kind of stuff that they'll outright delete and pretend never existed (i.e. walt mink, save ferris)
But I posted more for 1) lol schreibs and 2) feelings personal vindication since I've been an AWK stan since I GET WET
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link
wait what did they say about Walt Mink
― deX! (DJP), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link
Schreibs was a huge fan and gave at least one of their albums a 10/10
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ZhPm1se.png
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link
I have stumbled, quite absentmindedly, upon one of the best albums I've ever heard. Walt Mink's El Producto takes some growing on you, but grow it does, and in the largest way ever.
The album's opener, "Stood Up," fades in with the unmatched skill of John Kimbrough's fingers picking away at those old steel strings, and then shoves its seven inches of pop square up your ass. "Overgrown" steps around the corner with its unbelievable catchiness and intricate guitar riffs, and Orestes Morfin's intense drumbeatings. Who knew that when it was written (and rejected) for that hip, Gen-X slacker film, "P.C.U.," it would be such an irresistible chunk of beautiful noise? "Love in the Dakota" is the record's beautiful ballad, a sweetly- strummed storytelling of the plot to Roman Polanski's classic film, "Rosemary's Baby." Guitar, strings, and John Kimbrough's boyish voice blend together in what sounds like a serious case of good music.
Minneapolis has spawned more than its share of great music, but Walt Mink is the best band I've heard leave the city for the big time in over five years. We're trying to get in good with local politicians right now in hopes to pass a law that makes not owning a copy of El Producto a misdemeanor. Um, yeah.
-Ryan Schreiber
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link
okay the hilarious thing about that is both Miss Happiness and Bareback Ride are way, way, WAY better than El Producto
― deX! (DJP), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link
12 rods was the future of music iirc
― i have sounded the very dub step of humility (anonanon), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link
("Croton-Harmon(Local)" 4 lyfe)
― deX! (DJP), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
today an article used "But Eva Gabor couldn’t touch Eric Wright" as a segue.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
https://web.archive.org/web/20080924062007/http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/16264-live-at-the-village-vanguard-the-master-takes
― Murgatroid, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
I think it's understandable, I think everybody had a band or artist they rode for in college that they would have given a 10/10 or 5/5 mics or w/e if they had been EiC of a music rag
I probably would have given wolf parade a 10/10 if I had been in charge of p4k at the time
Thankfully I wasn't
Still, lol @ schriebs
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link
Love that that review gets brought up every time we reminisce
http://i.imgur.com/8qJ7vcH.png
Needed to make a screencap this time. So good
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
funny thing is I bet zines are FULL of that shit, most zines just don't grow up to be the internet rolling stone
― da croupier, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
Shit cat is right
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
Walt Mink's bass player is a professor at Boston University now, I keep wanting to call her and say "hey, you rock" but I think that would be a fast track towards a restraining order
― deX! (DJP), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
Keeping in mind Pitchfork's audience at the time of the Coltrane review, I'm now wondering if a single person bought the album off the review.
― Murgatroid, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
What voice is that even supposed to be
― Statham. Versus. Franco. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
Shit cat
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
― 乒乓, Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:19 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nah i feel you. the revisionism stuff is always entertaining to catch. a lot of really uncontroversial reviews are deleted, too -- some of my reviews, mainly of obscure bands that never went on to do anything of note, are gone, which seems like such an odd move, like deciding retroactively that things that got PF coverage weren't worthy of it.
― some dude, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
I read "Shit, cat," as an imperative
― deX! (DJP), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
Wow that sucks. Allmusic (or w/e its current name is) they're not trying to be xp
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link
― flopson, Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
woah woah woah woah, let's be careful of the words we choose
#hardsonned4lyfe
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link
Barleywine churned out a bunch of reviews, but I don't recall any this embarrassing
― Statham. Versus. Franco. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
haha yeah, it's really a charles mingus reference:http://mingusmingusmingus.com/mingus/cat-traning-program
― but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
i know we've been over the Cars review but can i just
these days, they're remembered more as predecessors to Weezer's brand of pop music
― some dude, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
so much Say It Ain't So back in 1999.
― peace on earth and mercy mild (how's life), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
some proto-blogging in the first two paragraphs of this, Schreiber's earliest review still on the site (Feb. 1999):
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/6455-sam-prekop/
I'm psyched. Y'know why? Okay, okay, if you're gonna drag it out of me, I guess I'll tell you-- I'm moving from Minneapolis to Chicago in less than three weeks. And I'm taking Pitchfork with me. It's strange, really, to think about the dramatic changes that are gonna take place in my life in such a short period of time. I mean, for starters, I've sold my car. What a major shift, going from a reliable little Geo Metro to public transportation. And I can't wait.The beautiful thing about Chicago is that, unlike Minnesota, people actually talk to each other. In Minneapolis, if you talk to someone in the line at the movie theater, they get all nervous and twitchy. It's also slightly warmer there than it is in Minneapolis (though they get more snow). And best of all, everyone's completely laidback. Now, maybe I'm just glamorizing the place 'cause I'm excited about going there, but I've got proof about the laidback thing.
The beautiful thing about Chicago is that, unlike Minnesota, people actually talk to each other. In Minneapolis, if you talk to someone in the line at the movie theater, they get all nervous and twitchy. It's also slightly warmer there than it is in Minneapolis (though they get more snow). And best of all, everyone's completely laidback. Now, maybe I'm just glamorizing the place 'cause I'm excited about going there, but I've got proof about the laidback thing.
― i have sounded the very dub step of humility (anonanon), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link