OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/rita-ora-hospitalized-collapsing-photo-shoot-article-1.1521336

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:13 (twelve years ago)

put your hands in the air if your hot right now

but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:15 (twelve years ago)

(hopefully for a speedy recovery from that one of course)

but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:16 (twelve years ago)

http://www.popmatters.com/feature/176475-black-vinyl-confessions-of-a-music-collector/

On the Hard Day’s Night recordings and others, the Beatles created the template for what we now call power pop. And on that day, in 1972 or 1973, the Beatles’ pop had the power.

The whole thing is pretty dull, really.

SWM seeks intrinsically and gravely disordered action (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 2 December 2013 00:30 (twelve years ago)

Look up the definition of "wasting one's energy" and underneath it is "mocking PopMatters in 2013" pretty much.

Murgatroid, Monday, 2 December 2013 00:34 (twelve years ago)

I've never really read Popmatters (and I guess I won't start). Just kind of stunned by how dull and lacking in any kind of insight that article was.

SWM seeks intrinsically and gravely disordered action (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 2 December 2013 00:48 (twelve years ago)

like reading paint dry

CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Monday, 2 December 2013 01:01 (twelve years ago)

You mean your posts

乒乓, Monday, 2 December 2013 01:02 (twelve years ago)

yes, excuse me, reading your posts dry

CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Monday, 2 December 2013 01:04 (twelve years ago)

sic burn tho

CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Monday, 2 December 2013 01:04 (twelve years ago)

http://youheardthatnew.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/dayoFireworks_500.jpg

CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Monday, 2 December 2013 01:08 (twelve years ago)

PopMatters has published some good stuff from some good writers (I'm not counting my own work among this, fyi) but the site has a serious quality control issues that make it something of a chore to sift through. Also, an over-reliance on lists, but that's hardly limited to that site.

a fifth of misty beethoven (cryptosicko), Monday, 2 December 2013 03:09 (twelve years ago)

I know that the AV Club, esp their music section, fits into the same category as PopMatters in "not even worth discussing really" but I love how they think that artists writing songs for other fellow artists is a novel idea and worth publishing a listicle about: http://www.avclub.com/article/overflowing-cups-12-acts-who-wrote-for-other-artis-106083

Murgatroid, Monday, 2 December 2013 06:53 (twelve years ago)

hahahaha jesus christ

some dude, Monday, 2 December 2013 06:57 (twelve years ago)

like, i enjoy Evan R's work there and think he's fighting the good fight at a place that has all but given up on covering music, but i kinda wanna put him on the spot and ask if he maybe raised his hand when that thing was coming together and pointed out why a list with 12 artists on it was a bad idea for that topic.

some dude, Monday, 2 December 2013 07:00 (twelve years ago)

love how in that very simple list they still manage to confuse "writing a song for someone else" with "writing a song and then it gets covered by someone else" (Nothing Compares 2 U, I Feel For You -- i only read the prince one so i assume his isn't the only case)

my whole family is catholic so look at the pickle i'm in (zachlyon), Monday, 2 December 2013 07:11 (twelve years ago)

very sus that they lead with a picture of Fun and their entry just says the members used to be in different bands, and then compliments them on how they've grown as songwriters

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Monday, 2 December 2013 07:15 (twelve years ago)

I will say, however, that they should be given props for placing all the entries on the same page and not making the listicle a slideshow as well (as they've always done with these things, and something I hope they continue doing, even if I never read them anymore). It's the faintest praise ever, but still.

Murgatroid, Monday, 2 December 2013 07:25 (twelve years ago)

spazzmatazz and murgatroid posting garbage back-to-back

buzza, Monday, 2 December 2013 07:28 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

http://thequietus.com/articles/14291-warpaint-review

okay, it's not the worst but i don't think i've read a more off-putting final sentence

tench and pike, scaup and snipe (NickB), Friday, 17 January 2014 09:04 (twelve years ago)

Appalling piece. Can't spell psychedelia either.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 17 January 2014 12:09 (twelve years ago)

There's been an irresistible twilight, road movie grind to their music, all half-asleep grooves and stoned humping

mmmmmm

tench and pike, scaup and snipe (NickB), Friday, 17 January 2014 12:33 (twelve years ago)

Lol at equating lack of twitter beefs with reticence.

pearly-dewdrops' bops (monotony), Friday, 17 January 2014 13:05 (twelve years ago)

this might be the worst job anyone has ever done at interviewing

http://blog.thecurrent.org/2013/12/112-words-from-bonnie-prince-billy/

Ronnie James 乒乓 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 January 2014 00:58 (twelve years ago)

lol 'I probably couldn’t tell you anything you couldn’t learn over the Internet.'

j., Thursday, 23 January 2014 01:01 (twelve years ago)

ahahahaha

pessimishaim (imago), Thursday, 23 January 2014 01:03 (twelve years ago)

That is both terrible and weirdly perfect.

Simon H., Thursday, 23 January 2014 01:04 (twelve years ago)

Aw

he drummed, pompously (dog latin), Thursday, 23 January 2014 01:30 (twelve years ago)

When the interviewee asks a question, you gotta answer with a firm "hey! I'll ask the questions around here, pal" followed by some nachos to smooth things over

Sufjan Grafton, Thursday, 23 January 2014 01:36 (twelve years ago)

BPB was one of the first artists I ever interviewed, face to face, back in 1997, and remains perhaps the most purposefully difficult and evasive I've ever met. I've never really been able to enjoy his music since, because he was so unnecessarily obstructive and dickish.

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Thursday, 23 January 2014 07:50 (twelve years ago)

Though yes those are some heinous questions.

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Thursday, 23 January 2014 07:51 (twelve years ago)

Interviewed him twice during the same promo cycle a few years back (once for an article, the second time cause the local campus station pulled me in last minute cause they knew I was a big fan of him). The first time, he was fantastic while the second time at the radio station, he was evasive as stevie said, but not enough that I was too annoyed or anything.

Murgatroid, Thursday, 23 January 2014 07:55 (twelve years ago)

(and as for whether he recognized my voice, I don't think so - first time was on the phone while the second time was face to face)

Murgatroid, Thursday, 23 January 2014 07:57 (twelve years ago)

Surely that's her first ever interview with a musician. It's comically bad but I cut student journalists a lot of slack.

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 23 January 2014 09:50 (twelve years ago)

imo it's very bad form to be dragging student journalists itt. save it for the pros or pro websites

lex pretend, Thursday, 23 January 2014 10:06 (twelve years ago)

yeah, as someone who has graded a large amount of student journalism, it can be much much worse than this (and surely that's the point)

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Thursday, 23 January 2014 10:18 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, it's not like I'm in any rush to reprint my handful of student interviews. The bar is low.

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 23 January 2014 10:18 (twelve years ago)

(ie you write badly as a student because you don't know better, and then you learn better, and then you become better)

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Thursday, 23 January 2014 10:19 (twelve years ago)

(xp)

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Thursday, 23 January 2014 10:19 (twelve years ago)

Will Oldham was the first artist I ever interviewed. Although I was almost sick with nerves beforehand, he was no problem at all, and acceptably forthcoming. I finished the call by thanking him for "dispelling the myth that you are a difficult interviewee". No excuses, no slack!

mike t-diva, Thursday, 23 January 2014 12:08 (twelve years ago)

I don't think that Oldham was being particularly difficult, i just think that everyone has to start somewhere and it's bad form to rip into student journalists who haven't worked out how to do an interview yet.

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 23 January 2014 12:12 (twelve years ago)

also the Q&A format really leaves no room to paper over a bad interview, which can happen to anyone and isn't necessarily a marker of the journalist's skill

lex pretend, Thursday, 23 January 2014 12:20 (twelve years ago)

and more than anything else interviews are something you HAVE to learn on the job, there's no formula for a good one, a lot of it is intuition, and the more experience you get at them the better you become

lex pretend, Thursday, 23 January 2014 12:22 (twelve years ago)

I'm just glad I didn't do many interviews for the university paper because I shudder to think how many musicians I'd have alienated with dumb questions back then.

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 23 January 2014 12:24 (twelve years ago)

Perhaps Oldham is difficult because he's such a classic student journalist interview

badg, Thursday, 23 January 2014 13:14 (twelve years ago)

Hey guys I work really closely with our intern program. In fact I have 2 multi page feature articles written by college interns that will be in the next issue. They will be going out in 8 million issues of the magazine. We've had tons of kids that were just as young write great stuff. Thing is you have to challenge them, send stuff back, make them do it over, work at it. Writing for a living is almost impossible if you're good so no ones doing this kid any favors by trekking her it's ok not to prep for an interview or to publish shit that is this bad. So I'm not being some meanie to student, I work with great interns every day and some have gotten jobs after because we didn't treat them with kid gloves. We respected them enough to give them real criticism. They aren't babies.

They don't get paid. If you're not going to at least help them learn what it really takes to do the job well, you are just wasting their time.

Ronnie James 乒乓 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 January 2014 14:45 (twelve years ago)

m@tt OTM

SHAUN (DJP), Thursday, 23 January 2014 14:50 (twelve years ago)

Writing for a living is almost impossible if you're good

Strange state of affairs w all these gr8 opportunities for unpaid interns.

UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 23 January 2014 14:53 (twelve years ago)

We do ours through schools, it's something they apply for. It's a 3 month temporary term to ensure that 1) they come in understanding that this is not a promise of eventual employment 2) we don't keep stringing them along as indentured servants.

I myself started as an unpaid intern.
The lack of jobs in writing is due to the large scale meltdown of the publishing industry.

Ronnie James 乒乓 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 January 2014 15:01 (twelve years ago)

That cool w you bananaman?

Ronnie James 乒乓 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 January 2014 15:02 (twelve years ago)


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