I'm near Germany-ish (London)! It should be even cheaper!
― Vic Arpeggio, Private Investigator (stevie), Friday, 15 November 2013 09:28 (twelve years ago)
after all my complaining i really like Cellar Door
#addict
but it's good...the piano focus kinda makes it feel different and neil sounds even more bummed out than usual
― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 21:51 (twelve years ago)
yeah, pfork review was dead-on when it said "it holds the most value for the Neil obsessives interested in the small differences."
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 21:53 (twelve years ago)
I haven't listend, but like a dutiful little Neil fanatic I picked it up last night. I'll surely be shaking my head when it pops up again as part of Archives Vol. 2 in 2021.
― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 21:54 (twelve years ago)
guess i'm assuming it won't be in the next volume of the archives since it is not part of the time period that volume will cover. but of course, neil doesn't always make the sensible moves with this sort of thing.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 21:58 (twelve years ago)
i really thought the pitchfork review was great
that whole thing about neils little remark about how he feels like he doesn't know people who don't get high like him and the audience kind of takes it as a hippie inside joke like LOL @ the squares but neils really saying he can't relate to other ppl anymore was a great observation
― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 21:59 (twelve years ago)
hated it. the first useless Archive release.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 22:32 (twelve years ago)
what a dour listen! not sure what I think yet
― Euler, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 23:36 (twelve years ago)
Cellar Dour
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 12 December 2013 00:04 (twelve years ago)
ha, yeah, i was half joking, but who knows anymore. i just hope volume 2 actually does come out, no matter whats in it. my real fear is that it'll be released in like pono only or something and you can only listen to it by buying a $1,300 pono player.
― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 December 2013 05:42 (twelve years ago)
...which can only be installed and properly listened to in a fully-loaded LincVolt.
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 December 2013 06:00 (twelve years ago)
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/154-neil-youngs-missing-archives/good overview of some bootleggy things over on pfork today (and a plug for Doom & Gloom!). wow.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 December 2013 16:29 (twelve years ago)
gonna say, i learned about 100% of those boots from your blog
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 December 2013 16:30 (twelve years ago)
the availability of the boots, at least - some of the shows are mentioned in Shakey
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 December 2013 16:31 (twelve years ago)
pretty funny, my older brother and i were just noting that it's been 20 years since our first neil young bootleg -- that bottom line 1974 show blew my 14-year-old mind.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 December 2013 16:36 (twelve years ago)
Nice!
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Thursday, 12 December 2013 16:37 (twelve years ago)
Bottom Line was the first bootleg I had too, and I got it just about 20 years ago as well. Must have spread fast (and yeah, it totally blew my mind at the time).
― grandavis, Thursday, 12 December 2013 16:44 (twelve years ago)
curious as to what neil was doing in NYC at that point (yes I'm a nerd about Neil Young). i think there was something in Shakey about him doing a session with Robbie Robertson around this time? maybe I'm making that up.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 December 2013 21:22 (twelve years ago)
for some reason i can't even imagine Neil Young being in New York but i'm sure he's been there a zillion times
― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 December 2013 22:29 (twelve years ago)
he was there after the gold rush
http://www.popspotsnyc.com/afterthegoldrush/
― Euler, Thursday, 12 December 2013 22:32 (twelve years ago)
Great research. Would be interested to know a little bit about the "small, old woman" I've looked at a thousand times.
― clemenza, Thursday, 12 December 2013 23:31 (twelve years ago)
knowing neil, archives vol. 2 could very well be a 23-blu-ray version of "arc"
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 13 December 2013 01:29 (twelve years ago)
or a .mp4 file of "journey through the past" with croatian subtitles
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 13 December 2013 01:30 (twelve years ago)
Interview in the new Uncut: "Every record I've ever made" will be available on Pono in the fall (including Time Fades Away). Also, "Archives 2 still has a year to go before it's released, and it'll be released in a digital format and it will have a lot of the same content that the Blu-ray (of the first Archives) had."
BUT in the new Mojo Neil says, "[Archives 2] will be completed in late June. It'll be in Pono; that's the way it will be delivered." No other format? "There may be a few people who want the Blu-ray. We'll have to talk to the record company about that but it won't be released until next year."
So, in summation, Archives 2 will never be released in any format ever.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:49 (twelve years ago)
ARChives volume 23
― lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:53 (twelve years ago)
if we get a pono-only archives 2 I might riot
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:56 (twelve years ago)
Considering the main selling point of the first Archives box was the visuals on the blu-ray, the Pono-only thing makes no sense.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:59 (twelve years ago)
seriously
― idontknowanythingabouttechnlolgeez (waterface), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:00 (twelve years ago)
it will have a lot of the same content that the Blu-ray (of the first Archives) had."
WTF
goddamn it this was my greatest fear about pono
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:02 (twelve years ago)
eh i don't buy it. his record company will want it in various formats.
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:04 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, that's not exactly clear; I'm hoping he meant that any blu-ray release will have the same type of content.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:05 (twelve years ago)
his record company will want it in various formats.
I work for a division of Warner Music. Twice a year, we have a charity record sale; each WMG label donates stuff they've got too much of and it gets sold at ultra-cheap prices ($1 for a single CD, $4 and up for box sets. Last year, I got the Stooges Fun House 7CD box for $10.). Anyway, I've been going for a couple of years now, and every time I go there are giant piles of Archives Vol. 1 that no one touches. WMG took a fucking bath on that thing. I'm not at all convinced they'll want to produce an equally elaborate second installment.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:10 (twelve years ago)
Last year, I got the Stooges Fun House 7CD box for $10.
Damn
― idontknowanythingabouttechnlolgeez (waterface), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:14 (twelve years ago)
haha, can you let me know when the next one is, i would like the fun house box for $10. won't they take more of a bath on it if they only do it on pono? i mean, they certainly won't sell many.
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:16 (twelve years ago)
The first Archives was released in three physical formats (BD, DVD, CD) -- I imagine the overhead on Archives 2 would be significantly lower with no physical manufacturing/distribution.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:23 (twelve years ago)
i have another great idea neil you could also sell a lot more vinyl if you didn't charge twice the going rate for your records
i'm kinda PONOpressed right now :(
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:37 (twelve years ago)
that 24-bit depression
lol.i dunno, if they took such a bath on the first archives, why are they doing such a lavish "deluxe" version of "Letter Home" (with a CD version even!). [not that i doubt they lost money on the archives, but that might be more to do w/ neil's contract than anything else?]
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:41 (twelve years ago)
that delux Letter Home version is bonkers
― idontknowanythingabouttechnlolgeez (waterface), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:43 (twelve years ago)
that luxe Letter Home is looking for punters who are all "hello i love neil young and hate money"
― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:46 (twelve years ago)
Warners might've just fucked up in estimating how many Archives boxes they thought they could sell, and pressed an amount way out of proportion to its target audience. Presumably, they're pressing saner quantities of A Letter Home (and/or Third Man is footing part of the bill).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:21 (twelve years ago)
being a neil young fan is so stressful. let's just chill and listen to this shitty audience tape from 1976 (electric "helpless"!) http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1814
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:28 (twelve years ago)
IIRC, the deluxe Archives boxes where remaindered/put oop pretty quickly. When I saw him live live in 2010, they had discounted copies of the blu box on sale at the merch table, and I also seem to recall Collector's Choice slashing prices for both higher end versions in their contemporary catalogs.
^^I imagine even the regular Archives box was a hot seller upon the initial weeks of release, and then dropped down to nothing aside from xmas sales and then later closeouts like Borders closing (I still remember the piles of the Springteen Darkness blu boxes behind the counter in practically every location I visited).
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:49 (twelve years ago)
"Every record I've ever made" will be available on Pono in the fall"
including Homegrown?!
― nostormo, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:15 (twelve years ago)
yeah i was wondering that? or chrome dreams 1? oceanside/countryside?
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:48 (twelve years ago)
ha, i assume he means "every record I've released" but who knows
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:50 (twelve years ago)
"Every record I remember releasing...for $49.99. Apiece."
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:16 (twelve years ago)
It's kind of amazing that for something that was in gestation for so long, the archives projects have been released in such largely inept fashion.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:29 (twelve years ago)
The first time I heard about it was a 1990 interview in the Chicago Tribune; then, it was going to be a 10-CD set, which sounded absolutely massive at the time.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:45 (twelve years ago)