CAN....S and D?

Mooney-era Can was so great

Did you ever hear his "Rip van Winkle" with Dave Tyack?

i went can crazy earlier this year, then took a little break, then went back when this thread was bumped and was reminded that yes, can is the best. the development of the drumbeat in messer, scissors, forks and light is something i could listen to over and over and always find new things to hear and enjoy. even when i'm sick of paying attention, it's a great dance song. plus, medley!

I really love all of the Mooney tracks on Unlimited Edition.

^ this, esp love Connection which never seems to get mentioned

Mooney Can is so velvets it hurts, I fucking love it but I'm also glad they veered in other directions soon.

"Butterfly" is my jam off Delay.

Mooney is fine but he's fine as a rock vocalist from the 70's. I love Damo because he sounds very unique, it's a timeless voice in alternative music. When I first heard Can I thought they were a modern band, it was the synths that revealed the album's real age away.

Who else sounds like Malcolm Mooney?

Biography by Rob Young on the way!

http://www.factmag.com/2014/03/30/can-to-get-two-volume-biography-featuring-contributions-from-geoff-barrow-james-murphy-and-more/

(not til 2016 though)

Wait...has this full video existed before? I know I've seen clips, but not sure that the full set has been available...looks/sounds great.

http://youtu.be/vy5q-61HSsM?t=5m

yeah, i think the full thing is newly emerged. looks better than the clips i've seen in the past! CAN!

and that is great news that Rob Young is doing the bio -- his Electric Eden is seriously one of the best books about music I've ever read.

Awesome! Thanks for that.

Some incredible dancing in this video. Shame "Mother Sky" sounds so terrible.

goddamn, liebezeit is definitely the best drummer ever.

he really is

love the moment around 34:20 where they cut to a girl rocking out ... while reading a book.
i think i need an oral history of this concert.

Oh my god, this is an amazing video. Live Oh Yeah!

love the moment around 34:20 where they cut to a girl rocking out ... while reading a book.

She was the same one blowing bubbles earlier, wasn't she? I love pretty much everyone in this crowd.

Looks like the guy who put this up is putting up a longer version here (video is currently "processing" according to a message at the link):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aJnsV8F2oY

goddamn, liebezeit is definitely the best drummer ever.

― tylerw, Tuesday, April 1, 2014 11:49 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he really is

― sleeve, Tuesday, April 1, 2014 11:50 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thirded.

FOURTHED

dancing to can is also the funnest thing in the universe

great stuff indeed. absolutely cantastic. this is what i call a groove. all those people in the audience will now be between 60 and 70. weird, somehow. it says the clip is from the rockpalast. as far as i know the rockpalast, a live music show on german tv, started around 1974, so that can't really be. soest is about the most provincial backwater imaginable, in 1970 innovative music was happening in these kind of places in germany, funny. the same was true for faust and wümme and cluster and forst.

crowd is all retirement age now

What is Jaki doing these days?

x-p apparently the show is from the wdr archives, so actually it has nothing to do with the live rockpalast except that it was "presented" by the rockplast programme later on: http://www.wdr.de/tv/rockpalast/sendungsbeitraege/2014/0331/index.jsp

what are the precursors of Jaki's drumming style? I feel like the crowd should be totally losing their shit over it more but maybe it's not as revolutionary as I think it was?

here's something kinda recent from jaki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHEcPX9VNNw

I've always connected Jaki with Tony Allen, feel like there's a drum groove kinship there.

I've only seen one interview with him and he claims to be 100% self-taught -- I have no idea how he developed his style though. He didn't say much in the Can DVD either because Irmin Schmidt never stops talking. I would probably faint if I saw him play irl.

yeah, tony williams is a good comparison. liebezeit came out of a free jazz scene didn't he?
i think it was michael rother who said jaki was the one genius of the krautrock scene.

I feel like the crowd should be totally losing their shit over it more

watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZh4EmBbwd8
seems the full recording

what are the precursors of Jaki's drumming style? I feel like the crowd should be totally losing their shit over it more but maybe it's not as revolutionary as I think it was?

jaki's one of my favorite drummers as well. jaki was huge into jazz, so a contemporary of sorts might be jack dejohnette (listen to live miles from 1969/70 and you'll hear dejohnette busting out some similar moves). of course, jaki was doing his shit on delay 1968 so maybe he hadn't even heard dejohnette yet? james browns' drummers seems like a touchstone too.

If the question about the full Rockpalast Archives show being circulated before hasn't been answered before it looks like there is a series of old Rockpalast related shows being broadcast on German tv. THat's where the Kraftwerk set that recently appeared came from and from the same original series.
Not sure if this relates to the popularity of the Beat Club related material which has been appearing over the last few years as the Lost Broadcasts or not. & I'm assuming they're shows from rival tv stations.
But so great to see things appearing from then taht have lain dormant and unknown for 40+ years. THey are also broadcasting some US band stuff recorded for the same show. I've seen a Santana set mentioned. There's more on that at this link, http://www.wdr.de/tv/rockpalast/sendungsbeitraege/2013/from_the_archives/index.jsp

Liebezeit has done quite a few albums with Burnt Friedman (Secret Rhythms). And just two weeks ago this was released on which he plays on two tracks.

Shame "Mother Sky" sounds so terrible.

don't sleep on the Pluramon albums either, although they are from around 15 years ago

xp re: "current" Jaki projects

will do! i haven't heard any of that or the burnt friedman stuff. i saw that youtube posted but haven't heard the albums.

love this 12".

maybe Ginger Baker was in a similar ball park when it comes to Jaki comparators? A jazz drummer playing in a rock band (though "rock" is stretching it a bit for Can obviously)? Both fantastic drummers too, of course!

I really like secret rhythms

the girl's not just reading a book- it's a peanuts comic digest!

yeah I can see t williams/j dejohnette jazziness embedded in funk shell

Soundtracks had barely come out when this concert was filmed. I wonder how many of these kids had heard Damo before. Were there Mooney partisans in 1970?

yeah jaki's stuff with burnt friedman is great!!

As far as Jaki's other projects, Spielweise Zwei by B.I.L.L. works nicely for me. Released in 2010 on Klangbad. The teaser doesn't do it justice but it's a starting point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2idKCpRKMU

that last song sounds pretty awesome, not sure about the first two

all those people in the audience will now be between 60 and 70. weird, somehow.

I feel like Can has suddenly become contemporary, a basic model for a combo, rather than the "progenitor" status they've occupied for forty years. Similar to what happened to Velvet Underground circa 1984, Mission of Burma circa 1994 or Gang of Four circa 2001.

Most of those 65 year old audience members would still be as blank-faced seeing the gig now, but their grandkids wouldn't.