That's a nice summation of Allen overall.
― Greer, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 21:40 (twelve years ago)
Well, this won't be getting Best Music Writing anytime soon: http://flavorwire.com/424859/hard-out-here-proves-lily-allen-is-the-pop-star-we-need-in-2013
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:01 (twelve years ago)
We live in a post-Miley Cyrus / post-trollgaze world.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:05 (twelve years ago)
Sure, the video for (and the lyrics in) “Hard Out Here” is heavy-handed — not to mention the fact that the cadre of mostly black backup dancers twerking and getting their asses slapped in slow motion muddies the satirical message a bit. But the pretty blatant disses at the heavy hitters on the current pop charts are perfect. There’s Cyrus’ twerking, Gaga’s cheeky product placement and transparent media critiques, even a reference to Robin Thicke’s embarrassing bragging about the size of his penis, and acknowledgment of all three performer’s cultural appropriations. All comparisons of raw talent aside, Lily Allen seems to be the only pop performer still standing who has the self-awareness and wit to nail such a timely message in the space of a four-minute pop song.
how soon we forget weird al
― da croupier, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:06 (twelve years ago)
not to mention pink
― da croupier, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:07 (twelve years ago)
not to mention
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ht5RZpzPqw
― katherine, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:08 (twelve years ago)
People think of Weird Al first and foremost as a comedian, I believe.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:08 (twelve years ago)
that piece makes no sense
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:10 (twelve years ago)
how can you write these two sentences back to back and not notice a problem
Sure, the video for (and the lyrics in) “Hard Out Here” is heavy-handed — not to mention the fact that the cadre of mostly black backup dancers twerking and getting their asses slapped in slow motion muddies the satirical message a bit. But the pretty blatant disses at the heavy hitters on the current pop charts are perfect.
"the execution of this video and song is heavy-handed and muddled but also PERFECT"
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:11 (twelve years ago)
I am no expert on youtube views but isn't 70 000 low for someone as big as Lily Allen?
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:12 (twelve years ago)
Youtube freezes view counts on first-day/viral videos in the initial hours.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:13 (twelve years ago)
yeah there was a while where "301 Views" was a pretty reliable indicator of "this is big"
― katherine, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:27 (twelve years ago)
It's getting hard out herre...
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:28 (twelve years ago)
:(
― dyl, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:52 (twelve years ago)
can't respect writers who start sentences with "Sure"
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:55 (twelve years ago)
sure you can
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:58 (twelve years ago)
"Sure" followed by equivocation. It's the Jonah Goldberg Rule.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:05 (twelve years ago)
Popjustice like it too. Apparently it's heart is in the right place..hmm.
http://www.popjustice.com/songs/lily-allen-hard-out-here/
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:16 (twelve years ago)
"While her last album showcased the sort of scalpel-sharp social commentary and deft put-downs that have been missing from pop in the age of #clubLOLZ, Allen fans will have to make do, for now at least, with a cover of Keane's Somewhere Only We Know to mark her return. And it's nice and pleasant and all those sorts of adjectives, with Allen's delicate and deftly nuanced vocal rooted firmly on the right side of schmaltz. Fingers crossed the comeback proper is slightly less warm and cosy, though."
Translated, this means its fucking awful, yeah?
(From The Guardian).
― djh, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:24 (twelve years ago)
scalpel-sharp metaphors
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:25 (twelve years ago)
Here's the Keane cover/ad for people who haven't seen it yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqWig2WARb0
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:30 (twelve years ago)
People who I respect *like* that advert.
― djh, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:33 (twelve years ago)
I think it's a good helping of cuddlestein for the holiday, and the creation/animation is top-notch.
Not sure why Keane and not sure why Lily Allen.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:35 (twelve years ago)
think it sucks - wtf is the point of it - like "oh we just don't think enough of cartoon bears as we stuff our faces and spend at christmas, won't someone spare a thought for fictional characters created by a department store, they are literally the only living things on earth who don't get to share in the xmas fun".
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:37 (twelve years ago)
bear-hating hare freaks won't let the bears sleep
― woof, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:38 (twelve years ago)
LET THINGS SLEEP
why is the john lewis xmas advert a cultural event in this fucking country, vile racist performer or no
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:40 (twelve years ago)
i like when she actually points out that she's being SARCASTIC in the lyrics as if we didn't get the drift
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:40 (twelve years ago)
lily allen is human trash
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:40 (twelve years ago)
Whatever, I like the ad itself. Just don't care about the music in it.
I fear it being reproduced for the US, because I know they'd use Zooey Deschanel.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:41 (twelve years ago)
it's an ADVERT
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:42 (twelve years ago)
i like that keane song and can think of far worse things for lily allen to do than cover it. especially today.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:43 (twelve years ago)
So that disqualifies it dead stop from being likable in any way?
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:43 (twelve years ago)
she covered it about a week ago
as i said, she's being fast-tracked to national treasure status, and even being a vile racist more than once isn't going to stop her
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:44 (twelve years ago)
it is totally on you and not my problem if you want to give a shit about an advert
why is the john lewis xmas advert a cultural event in this fucking country
because Woolworth's went bust is the tragic but likely true answer
― a strident purist when it comes to band-related shirts (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:45 (twelve years ago)
Hey guys, guys, I don't know WHAT you're talking about because get this: I don't watch TV. In fact, I don't even know if I own a TV.
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:45 (twelve years ago)
no but did you cry
― woof, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:46 (twelve years ago)
ads have been iconic for many years. the fact they're made to make money hardly distinguishes them from other forms of art.
doesn't change the fact that the john lewis ad is an annual low point for british culture.
this year's isn't even as bad as usual cos the original is worse than the cover.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:48 (twelve years ago)
i heard a bit of this the other day and wondered why somebody had chosen to cover Keane in a style not very different from Keane, assumed it was some ad agency copyright-dodging bullshit
― a strident purist when it comes to band-related shirts (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:48 (twelve years ago)
You are supposed to know if you own a TV or not.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:48 (twelve years ago)
xxxxpost
Just checked and yes, I DO have a TV. But I don't watch it. In fact I turned it around to face the wall because I literally don't watch it.
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:50 (twelve years ago)
i think that was irony that didn't appear to be irony.
xpost - almost certain.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:50 (twelve years ago)
i'm gonna save my contempt for advertising and all its works for a different thread cos this one obviously needs to focus on Lily Allen and her ironic racism
― a strident purist when it comes to band-related shirts (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:51 (twelve years ago)
i don't equate thinking advertising is shit with being above TV and therefore being a terrible person who spits on the common "man" tho
― a strident purist when it comes to band-related shirts (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:52 (twelve years ago)
xxpost
We've never had it so good, uh huhWe're out of the woodsAnd if you can't detect the sarcasmYou've misunderstood
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:53 (twelve years ago)
personally, i would judge advertisements on their merits, the same as anything else. tho i suppose it has got a lot worse as live tv becomes less popular.
xpost.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:54 (twelve years ago)
well tonight thank god it's them instead of youand if you can't detect the sarcasm, you've misunderstood
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 23:55 (twelve years ago)