RFI: Border Community - Nathan Fake, James Holden, The MFA, Petter etc.

Anyone got tickets for Holden at the Roundhouse this weekend?

Looking forward to it, cant imagine he's do a live show without having it pretty much locked down.

Heard him at his modular rig during the Caribou Vibration Ensemble gig and it's immense.

Dreamt I saw Holden on TOTP, which was odd.

Have no recollection of that.

Still never figured out who The Late Great was/is.

v4h1d

Holden's mix on Avery's most recent Rinse show was incredible. Haven't heard anything like it.

Don't really know who v4h1d is, so...

you've only been posting in the same threads as him (inc this one) for a decade nick

Well yes, and I recognise it as a name on a messageboard and a set of opinions that go with it, but I have no ideas who v4h1d is beyond that. I've always been crap with keeping up with who people are on here unless I've met them or worked with them. And sometimes even then.

love you, too

Yeah, I don't know who you are, either, in terms of joining dots from ILX to elsewhere. It took me a year to realise who Imago was.

I didn't expect you too, I feel like tlg/moonship/etc has a pretty well-defined thread persona, but if you're not here often, it's probably not as rigid

Yeah, I don't think I'm here anything like often enough over the last four years or so to keep up with things.

i'm not asking you to know everything about him, i was just surprised you seemed not to have heard the name of one of ilx's most long-standing posters before

I didn't mean I don't know the name, just don't know who he/she is. When someone you've never met changes from one pseudonym to another on a messageboard you use vaguely infrequently and there's no avatars or account details etc to keep track, it's pretty difficult to know who's who.

identity is fleeting

have you thought about how this makes the late great feel?

i didn't think so.

btw I am tuomas

have you thought about how this makes the late great feel?

Irritated and hating on drippy indie-dance fanboys, probably.

Diddums.

great, now my cover is blown

Don't ever join the clandestine services.

sorry mang

Who the fuck is 'mang'?!

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Luke Abbott's new album is doing more for me on first play than the James Holden one ever really managed.

Anyone else go to the Holden/Koreless/Luke Abbott Terry Riley homaging thing at the Barbican last night? SO GOOD.

Sounds interesting. What was it like?

Funny, I dug out an old mix of Border Community stuff I made back in '06 to listen to at the gym just yesterday.

Going to see James Holden again next month! His live setup sounds cool.

Long modular synth pieces (c. 40mins) from both Holden and Abbott. Abbott's was a big drone piece, essentially, Holden's was incredible. He had a (fairly restrained) tabla player with him and the were sitting opposite one another, he hit on this one gorgeous melody and just let it run and run and run, building and building more synth lines over the top of it.

Koreless had a ten-piece string section, all sitting in a line, in the dark, each with one large light bulb in front of them. Each player played one note and one note only whenever their light came on, playing it differently according to the brightness and duration of the light. Koreless was off to the side of the stage, controlling the lights via computer and therefore essentially both conducting and scoring the piece in real time. It wasn't that minimal, the patterns kept changing and getting more and more complex, the whole thing was astonishing actually.

that sounds fantastic. i'd love to hear a version of In C played entirely on digital instruments or whatever...

sounds amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQsHZ0eyPl8

new james holden finally out next month, strongly suspect it's going to be incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58y6Kdv9ZV4

out on november 3 on border community

nice!

I was relistening to James Holden's "At the Controls" mix the other day and remembering how enjoyable his style is

Out tomorrow. Hope I can pick it up.

the glass is half full = the synthesizers are wildly too loud in the mix

the glass is half empty = the drums are way too quiet in the mix

really liking this so far. some of it is very... boredoms?

this is straight solar energy music

okay it's all gone a bit steve hillage now

yurt the fuck out, people!

(rly good record btw)

Thunder Moon Gathering is so good, a step out into this huge dark space. But yes, drums could be louder

really liking this so far. some of it is very... boredoms?

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this is straight solar energy music

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okay it's all gone a bit steve hillage now

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you're making this sound awesome

i'm digging it.

i remember when the last holden album came out, there was a small rush of cool cosmic techno in a similar vein around that time, stuff like stellar om source "joy one mile" and huerco s "colonial patterns"

i like that sound

it's harder to feel any techno roots in this one tbh, feels more like it's coming more from psych rock and jazz and non-western folk musics

interesting! can't wait to listen

Holden is virtually unique among 00s house and techno producers in that his steps away from the dancefloor have made him more interesting rather than less.

Fucking loved this on first instance, crazy cosmic Wicker Man pagan forest festival music. Some of the early tracks seem to have hit on some halfway point between Cluster or Harmonia and I dunno Pentangle or someone.

not sure which producers you're thinking of, but i think in the case of a lot of what i am thinking about the producers have moved from experimental music more toward dance music as opposed to moving in the other direction (like holden)

personally i think holden is interesting in both modes - still love his "balance" and "at the control" mixes

Yeah I wasn't responding to your post in particular (I love Joy One Mile and had no idea that Stella Om Source was coming to dance music from a different background). Holden's mixes are good ('At The Controls' is great) but as a producer he was never especially interesting to me, even if his original sound has been aped to death in the intervening years.