Lady Gaga - ARTPOP [2012]

i wouldn't've been able to judge BTW off of the title track and "Judas" so i'm not really sweating anything right now, although my overall expectations are lower to begin with.

Her signature song now is totally "Bad Romance." C'mon.

thank god for that, because "Poker Face" is terrible

this song gets pretty idiotic but I like the first few lines/the "...Venus!" part

venus part was the only part i liked

I listened to it for the first time last night right after listening to rocky horror to get into a halloween mood and the "...Venus!" part just sounds like Dammit, Janet to me now. Agree that the rest of the song is garbage.

leaked.

This album is maybe more consistent than Born This Way but with less of the highs of that album.

i wouldn't've been able to judge BTW off of the title track and "Judas" so i'm not really sweating anything right now, although my overall expectations are lower to begin with.

― Ned Ratchet (some dude

^^^^ this

I'm glad she exists but most of her music has never done anything for me tbf

apparently everyone is going gaga (no pun intended) over "do what you want"? really not sure what's special about it.

There's a ludicrous amount of saw synth on this album, even by Gaga standards.

apparently everyone is going gaga (no pun intended) over "do what you want"? really not sure what's special about it.

It's just a really well put together song, and R. Kelly takes it over the top.

xp i mean...i think its p significant for assigning beaucoup agency and power to people who ID as submissives? i can't think of a big mainstream pop song to do so as overtly and explicitly as this song - maybe ever?

fwiw, "G.U.Y." also does that but without the greatness of an R. Kelly feature or the awkwardness of having post-piss-gate Kells sing about doing what he wants with your body on a song.

Also someone on twitter made the great observation that his part would work even better if he hadn't flipped the chorus around and had just maintained the submissive stance.

yeah agreed

Sun Ra as a reference!?

Nice try gaga but I'm not falling that easily.

And I doubt the vast percentage of your fan-base even knows who he is.

isn't that kinda the point? it's not "hey kids, i know how much you love Sun Ra!"

Now that I've listened to it twice this morning I'm surprsied: this is her blandest, most colorless albums. "Aura," "Venus," and "Artpop" do nothing with their titles and the hooks aren't there; even her singing lacks personality. The R. Kelly tune and "Fashion!" are the only ones I've liked.

http://i.imgur.com/sy48t7P.gif

lol who has windows still

seriously, jord

"artpop" is a strange choice as a keeper for this album

i haven't heard this album yet... is the title track really that good?

I really like the run from "Manicure" until "Donatella", and the title track is the highlight of that run (at least on my one listen through).

is the title track really that good?

no

one thing that i think isn't talked about enough with her is that her choice of collaborators has started to slide almost exclusively towards EDM artists whereas the fame monster (basically a perfect album) was mostly redone plus r&b-leaning pop producers (darkchild & teddy riley)

like i'm looking at the wikipedia page for artpop and apparently "aura" was co-written by infected mushroom?

girl

remember when I used to deny TFM was her best?

I recant.

i suppose that's an angle, but i never thought Fame Monster sounded any more R&B/'urban' than anything else she's done, and this album has R. Kelly and Too $hort on it xp

yeah i mean it's mostly that she stopped working with RedOne

like i love "clarity" and all but....

although it is interesting that back when pop radio was a nonstop dance party, she was one of the only big stars who could do piano ballads or classic rock homages and now that that stuff is more radio-friendly she seems to be focusing on dance beats more than ever.

haven't heard this album yet... is the title track really that good?

I like the live clip posted upthread quite a bit.

Also, why Rick Rubin on this? (listed as producer of "Dope)

there's not really any chart-topping album i would be surprised to see Rick Rubin credited on at this point, least of all this one

"like i'm looking at the wikipedia page for artpop and apparently "aura" was co-written by infected mushroom?"

zero knowledge of them but I would bet, oh, $1 that it's a sample

"She (Gaga) came into Zedd's studio, her producer, while he was working on our track", says I-zen. "It was one of its first demos she immediately fell in love with. Zedd called us saying "There's a problem. Lady Gaga wants your song."
We had some serious deliberation, we see ourselves as a band with a high artistic integrity and we avoid commercialization and doing cheap things such as Britney or Gaga. But suddenly there's a concrete offer on the table and saying "No" is a mistake, because it's a guaranteed lifelong pension. Each time the song is being played or sold, we get some pretty nice royalties. So we decided to give her the melody, as long as we are signed under our private names. We felt embarrassment for our fans. But she refused, she wanted "Infected Mushroom" to be credited. So, we decided to go for it thinking it won't make the cut or she'll eventually change her mind.

But she didn't. Do you like the result?

No. I think it's an artistic compromise. The song is too cheesy and commercialized. The way her vocals are over the melody is bad. But, what do I know about pop hits? we are honored that someone off Gaga's league found potential in our track and loved it.

new gaga and katy perry have been on in my house today and they both sound ... awful

only good things to come out of this so far are do what u want and katy's birthday song, which sound more cohesive together than any couplets on the albums themselves

I'm getting the fix Gaga would have given me from Sky Ferreira.

yea i need to look into that

M.I.A. + Sky >>>>> Katy + Gaga as far as anticipated late-in-the-year albums go.

"Dope" has a very drunk-karaoke feel to it, which is unnerving in a way.

"like i'm looking at the wikipedia page for artpop and apparently "aura" was co-written by infected mushroom?"

zero knowledge of them but I would bet, oh, $1 that it's a sample

― katherine, Sunday, November 3, 2013 2:37 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pretty sure they produced the song

Our collaboration with Gaga will also expose us the an audience that haven't heard of us before. But when this new audience will come to our show expecting to hear similar songs to "Aura", they'll be disappointed.

The Infected Mushroom track "Still Love Trance" in question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJFaNaiXuCA

Yeah this album's kinda whatever. Some good stuff, some decent stuff. *shrugs* Born This Way begged for attention by not really having any "just ok" tracks. There were either huge highs or hilarious missteps. Here there's not much that's so bad as to be fascinating in it's terribleness, but also nothing so great as to be worthy of praise and obsessive listens and I don't know if that's a deliberate response to the reception of hr last album or not. I also think she might've tinkered with the songs a bit too much. Several songs were more sparse and straightforward when she did them live a while back but they worked, now a month or so later she's added unnecessary lyrics or vocals to stuff when she should've left well enough alone, so previous straightforward tacks feel cluttered and have had their best hooks removed or replaced with ineffective ones.

This is the album in which the Big Step is required but she treads water. Dunno if the marketplace will accommodate her in 2015.

Applause has done better on radio and will probably sell more than any song from Born This Way did with the exception of the lead single, so if the goal was to play it safe and win the public back with a collection of serviceable pop songs, it might pay off in the long run.

Yeah this album's kinda whatever. Some good stuff, some decent stuff. *shrugs* Born This Way begged for attention by not really having any "just ok" tracks. There were either huge highs or hilarious missteps. Here there's not much that's so bad as to be fascinating in it's terribleness, but also nothing so great as to be worthy of praise and obsessive listens and I don't know if that's a deliberate response to the reception of hr last album or not. I also think she might've tinkered with the songs a bit too much. Several songs were more sparse and straightforward when she did them live a while back but they worked, now a month or so later she's added unnecessary lyrics or vocals to stuff when she should've left well enough alone, so previous straightforward tacks feel cluttered and have had their best hooks removed or replaced with ineffective ones.

― Greer, Sunday, November 3, 2013 8:52 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otmfm.

^^^ yeah. Some of it's clever. Some of it's stupid. It's just as overstuffed as BTW but with fewer good songs, but at least fewer horrible unlistenable production jobs. Love "Do What U Want", think "Fashion!" is hilarious (sounds like Phats 'n' Small's "Turnaround"), like a few other songs but wish they had the big choruses they demand like "G.U.Y.", enjoy "Donatella" despite its naffness.... but wtf is "Aura"? What a horrible mess!