Lou Reed & Metallica - Lulu Poll

brandenburg gate is a jam wtf

cheat on me is my joint though

"Brandenburg Gate" is my favorite song on the album. but i can see the argument that that and especially "The View" kind of confirmed some negative assumptions some people had about the project where the record opening with other songs might've made it more accessible to some critics. but not sounding eager to please is part of LULU's greatness imo.

really love that they saved the best riff on the album for the second-to-last song

I love Lou's lyrics on "Brandenburg Gate", but James' "small town girl"s really ruin it for me. I just think that one represented the worst of what Metallica brought to the table (see what I did there?) and ruined what could've been one of the better songs.

I can go back to this record and my feelings of "Am I really hearing this?" are as intense as the first day it came out, if not more so now that Lou is gone.

the hate for this album was so weird

it prevails

people r small minded and dumb as shit.

I'd go on about genre snobbery, classism and lack of imagination among music writer types, but I'm lazy.

Have noticed a lot of ppl I know talking abt giving this another go thanks to that Bowie comment (and a few ppl saying "Yeah I like it too!"

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I've been listening to this a lot lately. It holds up.

the opening lines of junior dad are just so incredible to me.

Would you come to me
If I was half drowning
An arm above the last wave

Would you come to me
Would you pull me up
Would the effort really hurt you
Is it unfair to ask you
To help pull me up

yeah i really thought about that song after seeing his sister talk about the ECT he went through and all the terrible mental health "treatment" he received as a child

that motherfucker anthony fantano* in his vlog review of bish bosch said that the lyrics on that albun were even more "meaningless" than lou reed's lyrics on lulu (har har). to me, so much of lulu seems raw and even transparently personal.

*sorry if you post here, but really dude

and yeah, the part of junior dad when he talks about looking in the mirror as an older person and seeing his father's reflection -- "say hello to junior dad" -- is just so chilling. people talk about reed's decline but over the years he really refined his clipped, conversational verse into something so pure and weaponlike. "junior dad" is the worthy heir to "berlin" for sure even if the rest of the album is uneven (with some other great moments too!)

from day one i have basically advocated the idea that lulu is his lyrical peak, there's the feeling that so much of what he'd been working toward throughout his career is finally being realized

it's also a notable album for metallica, the fast/heavy parts are the first time they sound like a honest to god rock band playing a room together since like, jeez, master of puppets probably, and i know lou didn't really let them rehearse so it's very instinctual; they sound like they are holding on for dear life (C'MON JAMES!) instead of cutting and pasting riffs in protools

today i noticed trujillo's really subtle bass work in the opening of "cheat on me"

lol remember lulu

lolu

i'm a passionateless wave upon the sea

In a piece published on the day of Reed's death, Robert Christgau wrote that Lulu "probably didn't get enough" "mazel tov" from critics.[39]

Mistress Dread is awesome btw

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S03E19/401783.jpg?lines=A+puny+body+and+a+tiny+dick%0AA+little+dog+can+make+you+sick

lol

shout out to ilxor cbesinger for that

lol

if we polled this again I imagine there'd be more Iced Honey and Brandenburg Gate votes,

comma nothing

I'm pumping blood
Like a common state work-ah

C'mon James

What?

Wake up

The dream is over

I know three babies with the name Lulu right now. The Lulu Generation.

Post from last night inspired by watching a 2013 Lou show in Prague where they do some Lulu stuff and a really great set of favs and obscurities. On Amazon Prime, really awesome

Oh nice! Yeah he was pulling out some random old tunes towards the end...

Wow man, thanks! That concert on Amazon was really,really good. In fact, I'd go out on a limb and say, that besides the VU, that was the finest backup band I've seen/heard with our Lou. In some ways it was reminiscent of Brian Wilson's Pet Sounds/Smile tours. There must be a sort of mutual appreciation society thingy that goes on. The younger musicians look up to the auteur and want his praise. While the auteur gets a group who are willing to execute his every whim, and give his music a nice shot in the arm, energy wise etc.

And next i want to give Lulu another try. Those songs were among the best stuff, in that film. Also, i don't believe I've ever seen/heard Lou so relaxed. He always used to (seemingly nervously adlibbing all sorts of "ooo-ooo, hey-heys, and nah-nahs, between and sometimes in lieu of actual lyrics, which I hated. There was very little of that here. There was a ton of it in that VU reunion CD/video, if u need an example. Not a Mettalica fan at all, but I will give it a try.

Post from last night inspired by watching a 2013 Lou show in Prague where they do some Lulu stuff and a really great set of favs and obscurities. On Amazon Prime, really awesome

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Haha the best part of this is the deep cuts are like...deep cut doesn't even really do it justice...squeezed in between "Waiting For the Man" and a Lulu song is..."Senselessly Cruel" from "Rock N'Roll Heart"!

this must be from when the guy from barenaked ladies was in lou's band.

Hmm maybe i will watch this

is there an audio boot somewhere? (or a recommended recording from a similar show?)

Oh, wouldn’t it be lovely?

Sorry Niels, don't have a lead on a boot at the moment. I would b interested in one as well. I still can't believe how good that was/is. I will certainly let ILM know, if I find any in the future. I can easily imagine Tylerw posting one on his wonderfully hip (in the original non pejorative sense) boot mp3 blog.

"Hip" in the sense that, the musical taste as displayed there is exquisite. And the writing style in the posts is friendly, informative, and intersting. P.s. I've been a lurker here for years and am very happy to have finally joined a couple weeks ago.

Welcome! And you’re posting in this thread, so you’re already doing something right.

thanks for the kind words -- i don't think i have any 2011 Lou bootlegs, actually. I do have somewhere a tape of Lou and Laurie Anderson playing a duo show with a handful of (radically different) Lulu tunes included.

I watched that concert doc on Amazon prime last week -- pretty good! Kind of an interesting vulnerability onstage for Lou, and yeah lots of weird song choices.

welcome vryna!

#teamlulu always needs more members

strange to see rob wasserman jamming on things like "mistress dread" but i guess that guy was up for pretty much anything

In a way the VU to Lulu tour (best name ever) seems almost like a bit of the throwback to 70s Lou, with a big band, horns, backing vocals, long extended jams on just about every song. Lou esp is killing in on the Lulu tunes.

The band is so weird, dudes from Ratdog, Zorn, Barenaked Ladies...