Also kinda feel like I owe Alan Jackson an apology.
― pplains, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:45 (twelve years ago)
i made it 1:32 into this song, and the last 30 sec was only because i briefly pretended that they were a group of small town cops who caught the music bug
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 25 October 2013 13:48 (twelve years ago)
The Jackson song is great!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2013 13:52 (twelve years ago)
haha.
Bernie and Joe would make for good cops in their current modes.
― pplains, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:54 (twelve years ago)
this is an antidote. i swear this song will make you feel better. one of my favorite bands and one of the best southern rock bands ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UYWqBwFtYw
― scott seward, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:59 (twelve years ago)
genuine lol at ll
― balls, Friday, 25 October 2013 14:16 (twelve years ago)
this is an Eagles song I cannot bear to ever hear again.
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 October 2013 15:18 (twelve years ago)
see, before this thread i would have said it sullied their legacy but now i know different.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 October 2013 17:06 (twelve years ago)
Again with the drawn-out coda! It's kind of catchy, they clearly knew what they wanted. But no.
"Delivery Boy" in American Hot Wax (1978):
HOLE IN THE WORLDGLENN: We were supposed to start our record. We loaded in on Monday, September 10, to start the Eagles studio album in earnest. All the equipment was put in the day before, and we were supposed to go to the studio on the morning of 9/11, but after hearing the news we called each other up and said, “What’s the point? I don’t think there’s anything worth showing up for today.” So we stayed home. And then that night Don started “Hole in the World.”DON: On September 10, 2001, my bandmates and I were still feeling elated from the successful tour of Europe we had completed in August. We had traveled all over the continent and made first-ever appearances in Russia, Finland, and Italy. It had been a memorable, satisfying experience. We were back in L.A. and preparing to record. Then, on the morning of September 11, the phone rang and it was my assistant, who said, “You’d better turn on the TV.” That evening, our recording session having been cancelled, I sat down at the piano in my home studio and started putting some chords with the phrase “hole in the world.” Just sort of wrote the refrain in one sitting. After that, the first verse came fairly quickly and then I was stuck. Months went by, but I didn’t show it to anybody. Then, other things started happening that gave additional meanings to “Hole In The World,” particularly after the [Iraqi] war started. The fighting was supposedly over in May, and yet one or two or three of our boys were — and still are — getting killed every day, which means somebody’s daddy is not coming home. So that’s another “hole” — a huge hole in somebody’s life — a child, a wife, a mother, a father, a brother, a sister. There are holes in the information that the public is getting, both from the media and the government. There are holes in what passes for the logic of this administration’s foreign policy. The stars and stripes may be flying and the drums beating, but things are never going to be the same for some people. The ill-conceived attempt to “avenge” the victims of September 11 has only brought more misery and sorrow. Things in today’s world are not so black-and-white, so clear-cut. This is not a John Wayne movie. This is the 21st century. It’s complex, and people have forgotten about our history — if they ever really knew it in the first place.So I took my unfinished piece to the studio and showed it to Glenn, and he eventually wrote the second verse. We started a third verse and then scrapped it in favor of simplicity. I originally envisioned it as a very short song, anyway, like those little snippets the Beatles used to do that only lasted for about a minute, but it turned out to be a little longer than that.GLENN: Talk about a record that you know is the Eagles: “Hi, we’re in charge again.” These would be the compelling perfect vocals, and of course let’s just start with Don’s opening lines of the song, which I think are brilliant — “They say that anger is just love disappointed.” It’s all there. The big chorus, the ooohs under the verse…. It’s a classic Eagles record, I’m telling you.
DON: On September 10, 2001, my bandmates and I were still feeling elated from the successful tour of Europe we had completed in August. We had traveled all over the continent and made first-ever appearances in Russia, Finland, and Italy. It had been a memorable, satisfying experience. We were back in L.A. and preparing to record. Then, on the morning of September 11, the phone rang and it was my assistant, who said, “You’d better turn on the TV.” That evening, our recording session having been cancelled, I sat down at the piano in my home studio and started putting some chords with the phrase “hole in the world.” Just sort of wrote the refrain in one sitting. After that, the first verse came fairly quickly and then I was stuck. Months went by, but I didn’t show it to anybody. Then, other things started happening that gave additional meanings to “Hole In The World,” particularly after the [Iraqi] war started. The fighting was supposedly over in May, and yet one or two or three of our boys were — and still are — getting killed every day, which means somebody’s daddy is not coming home. So that’s another “hole” — a huge hole in somebody’s life — a child, a wife, a mother, a father, a brother, a sister. There are holes in the information that the public is getting, both from the media and the government. There are holes in what passes for the logic of this administration’s foreign policy. The stars and stripes may be flying and the drums beating, but things are never going to be the same for some people. The ill-conceived attempt to “avenge” the victims of September 11 has only brought more misery and sorrow. Things in today’s world are not so black-and-white, so clear-cut. This is not a John Wayne movie. This is the 21st century. It’s complex, and people have forgotten about our history — if they ever really knew it in the first place.
So I took my unfinished piece to the studio and showed it to Glenn, and he eventually wrote the second verse. We started a third verse and then scrapped it in favor of simplicity. I originally envisioned it as a very short song, anyway, like those little snippets the Beatles used to do that only lasted for about a minute, but it turned out to be a little longer than that.
GLENN: Talk about a record that you know is the Eagles: “Hi, we’re in charge again.” These would be the compelling perfect vocals, and of course let’s just start with Don’s opening lines of the song, which I think are brilliant — “They say that anger is just love disappointed.” It’s all there. The big chorus, the ooohs under the verse…. It’s a classic Eagles record, I’m telling you.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 October 2013 18:01 (twelve years ago)
he's telling us!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2013 18:03 (twelve years ago)
xpost--and with the long interview now over, our heroes felt up some stewardesses at Skybar.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 October 2013 18:04 (twelve years ago)
DON: Really, I just spent that year, 18 months, thinking of different metaphors for holes.
GLENN: And even after all that, we left out two or three.
DON: Well, yeah.
― pplains, Friday, 25 October 2013 18:18 (twelve years ago)
Talk about a record that you know is the Eagles: “Hi, we’re in charge again.”
tell me about it. everyone else in 2003 just ran for cover when this monster was released.
― col, Friday, 25 October 2013 18:40 (twelve years ago)
Lol
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 October 2013 19:06 (twelve years ago)
"Our mournful, elegiac song dedicated to those we lost on 9/11 WILL FUCKING BLOW YOU OUT OF THE WATER!"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 25 October 2013 19:12 (twelve years ago)
to give you an idea of their arrogance, they opened the 2003 show I had to review with this baby.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2013 19:55 (twelve years ago)
For real?? Wtf
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:01 (twelve years ago)
I remember the chorus; I was still in line buying an $18 gin and tonic.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:03 (twelve years ago)
Okay WTf at $18 gin and tonic. Especially because I know it was watered down swill in a shitty little plastic cup.
― carl agatha, Friday, 25 October 2013 20:06 (twelve years ago)
watered down swill in a shitty little plastic cup.
Nicely sums up the Eagles.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:07 (twelve years ago)
Watered-down swill in a shitty little plastic cup -- two of them -- to endure a four-hour show with two encores (I left before the last one).
My editor at the time said the next day, "Wow. Why'd you go if you hate them so much?"
"Revenge."
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:10 (twelve years ago)
"And why are you so angry at Eagles, Soto?"
"Love disappointed."
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:13 (twelve years ago)
It's in the Miami Herald in the summer of 2003; I'd post it if I could.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:14 (twelve years ago)
"No More Walks In The Wood"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/eaglesGADublin09-03.jpg
https://myspace.com/eaglesonlinecentral/video/eagles-no-more-walks-in-the-wood-long-road-out-of-eden-/31334792
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 October 2013 11:45 (twelve years ago)
yes i had to go to myspace to find this song...
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 October 2013 11:46 (twelve years ago)
no more walks in the wood cuz there's a hole in the world so GET OVER IT
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 October 2013 11:48 (twelve years ago)
oh dear. poor John Hollander: I didn't know that Henley had "covered" him.
original poem: http://www.ct.gov/cct/cwp/view.asp?a=2162&q=329214. The Eagles replace its tight, driving rhythms with mush-mouth draggy melodies and ignore its wordplay (see how they just clunk through the "gone for good, and you, for ill"). Sadly, this has probably been used in a few high school English classes to torture students.
― col, Saturday, 26 October 2013 12:44 (twelve years ago)
man, we are really gonna drag to the finish line with this. yeesh....
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 October 2013 15:21 (twelve years ago)
First Eagles album with solo Frey credits!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 October 2013 15:22 (twelve years ago)
this was the album they only sold through Wal-Mart, right? Which is a perfect partnership for 'em
― col, Saturday, 26 October 2013 15:36 (twelve years ago)
so their entire catalog is on spotify except for this album. THIS is the one they're withholding from downloaders??? i'll be sure to run right out to wal-mart and buy it right now.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Saturday, 26 October 2013 18:20 (twelve years ago)
i think THEY must have the rights to this album or something? that would explain why i its hard to find? private property of eagles/walmart.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 October 2013 18:31 (twelve years ago)
they have enough rights to their entire catalog that they were able to withhold all streaming rights until very recently. and then, with much fanfare, they made everything available except the walmart album. so maybe wal-mart is the one aggressively keeping it off the internet?
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Saturday, 26 October 2013 18:37 (twelve years ago)
the first humane move of Wal-Mart's existence imo
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 October 2013 18:45 (twelve years ago)
"hey, looking for the Eagles' "Long Road Out of Eden": said no one on a file-sharing site ever
― col, Saturday, 26 October 2013 18:55 (twelve years ago)
Bet you could find plenty of "How Long" by the Eagles on a file-server. They'd all feature Paul Carrack singing about how he's not quite as dumb as he seems, but they'd be in there.
― pplains, Saturday, 26 October 2013 19:00 (twelve years ago)
I think most people that bought this album think file-sharing involves manila folders and the post office.
"No More Walks In The Wood"--Man, they really Protooled the shit out of those harmonies. CSN(Y) used to do stuff like this just standing around a mike going direct to tape. This shall be a long road indeed...
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 26 October 2013 19:08 (twelve years ago)
it'll be a long friggin' road if i end up having to search for these damn songs on abandoned geocities fansites.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 October 2013 19:12 (twelve years ago)
i'll have to start using a more reliable search engine for this kind of thing.
http://www.dogpile.com/
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 October 2013 19:14 (twelve years ago)
eaglespile.com
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 26 October 2013 19:33 (twelve years ago)
For some reason, the myspace page isn't opening for me.
So it's basically, "Dammit, I can't open this jar of sun-dried, urnine-soaked phlegm clumps!"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 26 October 2013 19:50 (twelve years ago)
well, yeah
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 October 2013 20:02 (twelve years ago)
Ermine-swaddled phlegm clumps
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 26 October 2013 21:25 (twelve years ago)
"How Long"
http://www.glennfreyonline.com/images/GFreyPB2008-08.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHBqpyUmCP4
― scott seward, Sunday, 27 October 2013 11:33 (twelve years ago)
Ugh golf Glenn.
― carl agatha, Sunday, 27 October 2013 14:05 (twelve years ago)
karaoke version of their old sound, as if intended for someone listening to the radio to think it's "Already Gone" for a minute before realizing their mistake. Gets ugly when Henley comes in on the 2nd verse. 18 more of these to go?
― col, Sunday, 27 October 2013 14:33 (twelve years ago)
I feel guilty for not helping drag this dead horse across the finish line, so I made myself listen to this one
This is ... not entirely awful! I see it went to 23 on the US country charts, I'm sure it fit right in
KInd of peppy, appropriate use of Eagles Vocal Harmonies™ ... only 3:16 but "good night, baby, rock yourself to sleep" still quite apt
― Brad C., Sunday, 27 October 2013 14:47 (twelve years ago)
At least the production is better than the '94 stuff. But that's not saying much. In fact, it's saying absolutely nothing.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 27 October 2013 14:53 (twelve years ago)
FYI This was a JD Souther song from '72: http://youtu.be/AlMURk9RsU4 (I think that's Roach & the boys on harmony, who also used to smoke it live: http://youtu.be/fkmj1INRCok)
As for the new version, it's a nice little romp, and probably better than a lot of what surrounded it on 2007 Country radio. Once again not digging the Protooled harmonies.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 28 October 2013 02:20 (twelve years ago)
In the wild:The H is O at this diner...
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 28 October 2013 07:25 (twelve years ago)