(I was talking about their lack of patience, xpost. They don't have to like it. :-) )
― StanM, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:55 (seventeen years ago)
Well for me this is some sort of a light version of 'silent shout. They both came out around the same time of year and I remember being very interested and addicted with both at first before it started erosioning. Tho, Silent Shout started wearing off until April and 'Fever Ray' has worn off in less than a month for me.
― Moka, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 05:07 (seventeen years ago)
obviously the brother is not a necessary element of the knife. did karin dreijer do the music?
what i mean to say is that this may as well be a knife album. karin is the one who sends chills down my spine.
Totally disagree - there's really obviously something missing here. That's not to say it's a bad record but it's got the same problem as The Eraser, when you take the seemingly most prominent member away from the joint creative spark that's responsible for their best work.
This is a much better record than The Eraser though, but it's very samey. That said, Keep The Streets Empty For Me is amazing, and I think I'd rather listen to that 12 times in a row than play the album again.
― David Bentley: Rhythm Ace (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 09:46 (seventeen years ago)
^ this, including streets empty love (though not limited to that track). most obvious absence is that of person who writes the catchy bits.
― They don’t understand. And I eat a lot of matzo brie. (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 15:00 (seventeen years ago)
how do you know he writes the "catchy" bits and not karin, and maybe instead of his absence resulting in it being less "catchy" this is just an artistic choice by karin?
― pro bowl was fun (omar little), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:34 (seventeen years ago)
Silent Shout had catchy bits?
― David Bentley: Rhythm Ace (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:36 (seventeen years ago)
yes
― pro bowl was fun (omar little), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:38 (seventeen years ago)
silent shout was wall to wall catchy bits! pop tunes. ear candy with hooks. this is ear candy with, well, with fewer hooks, let's say. or less obvious hooks. and i don't know that this isn't an artistic choice on karin's part (last post was meant to come across a bit tongue-in-cheek). but if so, it's a perverse one
a certain sparkle seems to have gone into recession. i miss the seemingly effortless knack for jaw-droppingly perfect (pop) moments on display in deep hits and silent shout, and you know, it's tempting to speculate. "when i grow up", for instance, plays like "from off to on" with the genius excised
again though, "if i had a heart", "dry & dusty" & "keep the streets empty" are magnificent
― They don’t understand. And I eat a lot of matzo brie. (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 17:10 (seventeen years ago)
Forgot to mention this earlier, but the video for "If I Had a Heart" is free on US iTunes until next Tuesday morning.
― Telephone thing, Friday, 27 February 2009 22:38 (seventeen years ago)
Love this album, especially in concentrated doses. Putting on "I'm Not Done" after sitting in relative silence for hours was an outstanding experience.
― I shall always respect my elders (Z S), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 01:55 (seventeen years ago)
No mention of the "When I Grow Up" video? For shame! It's the same guy that did the Royksopp video with Karin and it's a beaut.
― Telephone thing, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 14:48 (seventeen years ago)
we share our mother's health is catchy in the most fucked sort of way, but i generally disagree with the above comment that silent shout had "catchy bits"
it's a mood album, it's not catchy
― cutty, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 14:51 (seventeen years ago)
some conflation of catchy with dancey perhaps. that's the only thing "missing" from this virtual Knife LP.
i don't quite get why there are two singles with videos from this album already - neither really scream single to me (but then nothing from the album really does).
― tuomasters at work (blueski), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 15:26 (seventeen years ago)
I posted it a couple of weeks back. yah, it is way awesome xxp.
― caek, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 16:12 (seventeen years ago)
'like a pen' is catchy and there are other bits on the album that are as well, but i think on a whole yeah 'silent shout' might be more about the mood than catchiness. which is fine, mood is underrated as a quality.
― pro bowl was fun (omar little), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 16:29 (seventeen years ago)
if someone asked you to describe the knife, would you say catchy and dancey? really?
― cutty, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 16:29 (seventeen years ago)
@blueski
knife are totally an atmosphere band, but this seems to take that a little further
― caek, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 16:37 (seventeen years ago)
cutty not necessarily but as The Knife they do tend to deal in dancier, poppier terms and memorable patterns and hooks e.g. Pass This On steel drums, Like A Pen chorus
― tuomasters at work (blueski), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 16:58 (seventeen years ago)
i can get behind those adjectives if you're talking about deep cuts. not silent shout, which is a difficult deep dark mood-hole of a record.
― cutty, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 17:04 (seventeen years ago)
well you can still dance to half of it
― tuomasters at work (blueski), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 17:06 (seventeen years ago)
yah it's def not as poppy as deep cuts but still
― just sayin, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 17:08 (seventeen years ago)
it fucks you right in your mood-hole
― homie bhabha (max), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 17:10 (seventeen years ago)
it's a headphone record. sure you can dance to it if you want. but i'd make fun of you.
― cutty, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 17:23 (seventeen years ago)
wtf is this argument even about anymore? i love everything they do but i'll tend to prefer the stuff with overt/bigger beats
― tuomasters at work (blueski), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 17:27 (seventeen years ago)
it's not an argument. it's a discussion. my main point is that so many people are critiquing fever ray as tuneless/hookless, like silent shout was a big dance party.
― cutty, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 17:30 (seventeen years ago)
i suppose the difference between fever ray and SS is not necessarily the absence of beats and melodies, which were thin on the ground on silent shout, but the arpeggiator. e.g. I feel like forest families totally belongs on this album thematically but not sonically. also, this may be bullshit, but i guess the average BPM is higher on SS. i love both albums with the fire of one thousand suns, but there's definitely a qualitative difference between them. if people don't like both then their opinions are incorrect and what's next voting for nazis?, but i agree with them that SS and this have differences that are not negligible.
― caek, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 17:38 (seventeen years ago)
i think the bpm thing might be key - SS might not have been "catchy" or "dance party" per se (though at least three of its cuts were pretty ubiquitous in dance sets that year) but the tempo of the catchier tracks gave it an energy, a propulsion, which FR lacks. it's a qn of what FR brings to the table instead, and i'm still in the process of figuring that out.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 17:58 (seventeen years ago)
i agree, plus, those slower tempos don't really waver much on FR
― cutty, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 18:00 (seventeen years ago)
not many metal percussive sounds on FR gives it way less propulsion
it's like, i really love 'from off to on' and 'forest families' in the context of SS, where the catchier tracks provide a great counterpoint to them, but i'm not sure i'd really want a whole album of them, which is what FR feels like so far to me. i don't dislike any of it per se, it's a v impressive work...i'm just not into it.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 18:08 (seventeen years ago)
don't forget na na na
― cutty, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 18:15 (seventeen years ago)
Finally heard this, and it's excellent!
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 5 March 2009 20:33 (seventeen years ago)
when i grow up on of the rare promo videos that actually makes me like a track more.
― djh, Saturday, 7 March 2009 11:58 (seventeen years ago)
lovin that dude from studio's remix of when i grow up :)
― just sayin, Sunday, 8 March 2009 17:28 (seventeen years ago)
oh man, i didn't get into that remix at all. it was like a studio remix distilled down only to the most typical elements with the vocals just kinda plopped on top throughout most of it. i really hate to dislike it, but yeah...
― vergangenheitsbewaeltigung (later arpeggiator), Sunday, 8 March 2009 19:43 (seventeen years ago)
^kind of agree with this
but still happy to hear studio and so I dig it
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 17:05 (seventeen years ago)
I never thought I'd say this about a Knife-related release, but this sounds so much better in the sunshine.
― Two hands in the air, that's the Lampard Skank (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 12:07 (seventeen years ago)
I don't think I quite appreciated the first time round how some of the tracks seem to waver between warmth and ice - a bit of a push and pull between sunny Balearic sounds and dark Teutonic synthpop.
When I Grow Up and Coconut in particular have this real 'industrial goth takes time out to go and sit on a beach' feel to them.
― Two hands in the air, that's the Lampard Skank (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 12:09 (seventeen years ago)
I really love the artwork, Max, and I TRULY don't mean to be a dick here; I'm just curious - did they never mention Charles Burns when discussing the artwork? (Seeing as how the "Silent Shout" video was a total "Black Hole" homage, so I figure the Knife are into him)?
Either way, it's really great - and the cover is the reason I'm buying the physical copy instead of picking it up on iTunes!
― Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 17:17 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, looking forward to a physical release. Somehow I've imagined it being white-on-black silkscreen in a matte black cardboard sleeve, but it probably won't be. . .
― Soundslike, Thursday, 19 March 2009 05:13 (seventeen years ago)
You asked for a non-shiny cardboard sleeve? Well, look what I got in the mail from bengans.se today:
http://i41.tinypic.com/tzhqg.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/10o0868.jpg
― StanM, Thursday, 19 March 2009 14:34 (seventeen years ago)
Enhanced CD:
I:\>dir Volume in drive I is Fever Ray Volume Serial Number is 51F4-3665
Directory of I:\
05/01/2009 14:51 103.849.072 If I Had A Heart, High.mp405/01/2009 15:15 38.851.518 If I Had A Heart, Low.mp4 2 File(s) 142.700.590 bytes
― StanM, Thursday, 19 March 2009 14:36 (seventeen years ago)
i wonder why the sunglasses
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 19 March 2009 14:54 (seventeen years ago)
I got somethin' to say to you and you better listen -i'm gonna tell ya how to be cool in one easy lesson:
sunglasses after dark
― StanM, Thursday, 19 March 2009 15:35 (seventeen years ago)
That looks great StanM!
What's with the 'high' and 'low'? Is it the video?
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 19 March 2009 15:36 (seventeen years ago)
Yes, it's the video in two formats.
― StanM, Thursday, 19 March 2009 15:39 (seventeen years ago)
I love this album! can't wait for the physical release. this doesn't have the highs of Silent Shout, but it seems more consistent. dark and moody without being depressing, beautiful melodies, great sound palette... even the crappy mp3s have amazing depth.
― Dan S, Thursday, 19 March 2009 21:44 (seventeen years ago)
Google translation of an interview in a Belgian paper today. Kiss, Tomahawk, The Knife. :-)
― StanM, Friday, 20 March 2009 12:13 (seventeen years ago)
"Oer" cannot be translated, it seems ;)She also mentioned Kiss in an interview with Groove. (mentioning that a friend of her daughter said "Geil! Your mother looks like she's in Kiss")
― willem, Friday, 20 March 2009 12:41 (seventeen years ago)