Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

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I think the way Forsyth incorporates healthy doses of skronky, unhinged, and downright noisy moments to his relatively structured compositions keeps the "chopsy guitar mag" vibes away, he has a good balance. He obviously can play like crazy, but seems to avoid playing any "licks" that sound TOO studied/show-offy.

grandavis, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:42 (twelve years ago)

i kind of think of him as verlaine & lloyd in one brain

tylerw, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:44 (twelve years ago)

This just in from the Tompkins Square list

http://ih.constantcontact.com/fs106/1101382621048/img/129.jpg

NPR has premiered Ryley Walker's debut single, "The West Wind."

"With the charming swagger of jazz-folk troubadour Tim Buckley and the resonant, full picking style of Bert Jansch, "The West Wind" comes from Walker's first widely available release, a three-song 12". With acoustic guitar in hand and a voice like browned butter, Walker swings and sways in a lush string-and-piano arrangement right out of Buckley's Starsailor; it slowly picks up to a swirling gallop without bucking the rhythm." - NPR Music

Ryley is a 24 year-old singer/songwriter and guitarist from Chicago. Having kicked around Chicago's experimental free/noise music scene for several years, Ryley recently turned to a folk-rock sound inspired by some of his heroes, among them Tim Hardin, Tim Buckley, and Bert Jansch. The result is a poised and accomplished debut album, recorded in Chicago by Cooper Crain (guitarist/keyboardist in Cave). The album will be released by Tompkins Square in April 2014.

A 3 song 12" EP featuring "The West Wind" and two non-LP B sides (including one instrumental duet with Daniel Bachman) will be released on Nov 29th (Black Friday) on Tompkins Square. Sleeve design by Plastic Crimewave.

The first single, "The West Wind," is out today and available on every digital service worldwide.

Listen via NPR http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2013/10/15/230815583/vikings-choice-acoustic-swagger-exists-and-ryley-walker-has-it

dow, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 19:21 (twelve years ago)

haha ok if we need a pt. 2 to this thread it's going to be called Acoustic Swagger Exists, And ILX Has It

sounds great

like the full band arrangement, reminds me of Shirley Collins & the Albion Band

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 20:13 (twelve years ago)

re: Zachary Hay -- I just got the Green Glass record a few days ago, so I haven't listened to it tons of times yet, but right now I'm leaning toward that one!

ian, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 01:00 (twelve years ago)

Cool, thanks Ian.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 14:00 (twelve years ago)

Dig that Solar Motel clip, excited for the record, though I could live with out some of the percussion choices (cowbell)

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:44 (twelve years ago)

ha yeah, that might be the one thing i'd change about it - maybe just mix it slightly lower.
this is relevant to this thread: http://frontpsych.com/new-american-primitivism/

tylerw, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:47 (twelve years ago)

This is getting bumped in every feed/online resource of mine. I imagine that this is one of many of these types of lists still to come. Glad it went "somewhat" broad (cool to see Metzger put officially in the mix) and I am all for exposure for most of these folks, but it didn't have a thing on this here thread. I wonder what the typical audience is for that site, had never seen it until everyone I know who cares about this stuff started pointing to this list.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:06 (twelve years ago)

i'd never heard of that site before either... there will probably be a bunch of 2013 year of the fahey roundups. but yeah, this thread is obviously the place to be!

tylerw, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:18 (twelve years ago)

I hope that in future instalments Marisa Anderson gets more shouts, both for the obvious reason of diversifying the mix a bit but also because damn her records are good. I really like the feel of her stuff and it is cool that she improvises it all, which is an interesting departure from a lot of these folks as well.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:21 (twelve years ago)

Still sad I missed her here in Charlottesville. She got added to the Godspeed bill, which I wasn't gonna make for all kinds of reasons, instead of playing this really lovely outdoor space that she had originally been booked to play. Hope she swings back through, would love to see her play live, don't get to see good slide players enough.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:23 (twelve years ago)

Just hit me like a ton of bricks that Jack Rose not being alive and putting out albums is really fucking with me right about now.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 17:37 (twelve years ago)

yeah, i mean, i feel like a lot of this stuff is more post-Jack Rose rather than post-John Fahey (though obviously the two go hand in hand to some extent). but it seems like he inspired a lot of the current players as much as Fahey.

tylerw, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, it is sad that there won't be a ton of records left by Jack. I feel like almost every review/piece in recent memory brings him up at least.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 17:45 (twelve years ago)

A ton of NEW records that is, thankfully we got some great ones before he left.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 17:45 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b8jGVzURUc

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 18:51 (twelve years ago)

http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2013/10/24/wooden-wand-interviews-william-tyler-interviews-wooden-wand/#more-37600

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 24 October 2013 14:46 (twelve years ago)

Well, this is weird, I got a little off-site shout-out from complete strangers! Whoa. Kind of made my day:

http://dyingforbadmusic.com/blog/post/2013/10/steve-palmer-fables-of-the-feral-boys-2013.html

That Brendan Canning album is pretty damn cool. Some tracks I really need to go revisit, a lot going on... Been meaning to check out Marissa Anderson also- had to miss a performance of hers due to work, but any good place to start?

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 24 October 2013 15:28 (twelve years ago)

Not surprised Global, I think your stuff is good enough to release personally. I have listened to those bandcamp albums quite a few times.

grandavis, Thursday, 24 October 2013 15:47 (twelve years ago)

There isn't really a bad place to start with Marisa, everything I have heard is good. It is actually all up on bandcamp, I would just start with the latest, Mercury:

http://marisaanderson.bandcamp.com/album/mercury

grandavis, Thursday, 24 October 2013 15:51 (twelve years ago)

@global tetrahedron your stuff is awesome! I think I dug it here or over bandcamp... can't remember!

I also learned today that William Tyler released something even before "the paper hats - the deseret canyon"
http://www.normanrecords.com/records/143638-the-paper-hats-come-and-see-
It came out on a german label btw. :)

DFBM (Nikolaus Höhle), Thursday, 24 October 2013 16:21 (twelve years ago)

i really liked the last marisa anderson, just haven't been feeling the new one yet for no particular reason

j., Thursday, 24 October 2013 16:38 (twelve years ago)

Sorry to keep bombing this thread with so much, but here's another relevant link. Really enjoyed that W. Tyler/JJ Toth interview above, and in a similar vein this C. Forsyth interview is definitely interesting. Gives real insight into how the recent records differ from each other and a whole bunch of other stuff:

http://adhoc.fm/post/interview-chris-forsyth/

grandavis, Thursday, 24 October 2013 18:05 (twelve years ago)

That Solar Motel artwork is so cool- the photobooth one on the back cover in particular adds to the atmosphere of the music in a way I dig quite a bit...

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 24 October 2013 18:15 (twelve years ago)

congrats global that's a nice writeup

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 October 2013 18:33 (twelve years ago)

really enjoyed that wooden wand/tyler conversation

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 October 2013 18:43 (twelve years ago)

Hey guys - saw Marisa tonight and she was exceptional. Just really, really great - medleys, Stephen Foster, and a great new thing called "Bluegrass Parking Lot" (may not be the actual title) that really knocked me out. I'm very tired so I apologize for the 'bullet points,' but wanted to note a few things before I forgot:

1. She's traveling with four guitars. When I asked, all know-it-all-y, "Ah, for different tunings?" she said no - they're tuned identically (open D, she said), but she said that they just sound different, and do different things. So she travels with four guitars for their distinctive sonic qualities. I thought that was an interesting detail.

2. She has a new album coming out in a few months - all public domain songs. Some church songs, some state songs and a murder ballad, she says.

3. Though the albums are all improvised (culled and edited down from longer jams), the live set is not! Kinda backward, and kinda awesome: She makes the album, then learns the songs so that she can play them live. I'm sure other guitarists have used this approach, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.

4. Her first name is pronounced "ma-REE-sa."

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 25 October 2013 03:21 (twelve years ago)

cool, really sad i missed her when she was through mpls :(

point #3 is really surprising!

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 October 2013 12:56 (twelve years ago)

Hah wow, very cool Jimmywine. Thanks for that rundown. Really wish I had seen her here.

I of course am not a great imporviser or guitarist, but I do improvise a lot when I play, and almost everything I am working on now that might become a song (if I get a home recording set-up going) started this way, i.e., I heard a recording of it and thought "huh, I might be able to turn that into a song". Very interesting that she is willing to make a whole record out of improvisations though, and then learn/refine them for the live show!

grandavis, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:13 (twelve years ago)

Just saw William Tyler at this little space in Teaneck NJ... basically a tiny community art center for some reason with a Puffin theme. Mostly old people there from the town. Between songs one old lady asked if he could turn down the volume! He had a lot of funny stories and his playing was fantastic of course.

Evan, Sunday, 27 October 2013 02:30 (twelve years ago)

He is playing tomorrow at Union Pool in Brooklyn by the way!

Evan, Sunday, 27 October 2013 02:31 (twelve years ago)

new thing i did overdubbing myself a bunch of times...

https://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/dead-malls

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:25 (twelve years ago)

reminds me a bit of krusty by papa m, which is about the highest complement I can bestow

ogmor, Thursday, 31 October 2013 18:14 (twelve years ago)

wow thank you. i have not heard any of the papa m stuff but to be compared to pajo in any way is awesome.

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 October 2013 18:39 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy3fuGV1UAg

it's perfect. always makes me feel happier. there should be more pajo talk, he is much better than almost everyone mentioned in this thread imo.

ogmor, Thursday, 31 October 2013 19:36 (twelve years ago)

when i spoke to the great dbh i asked him about his influences because i couldn't hear any takoma in his music, or any particular folk style or w/e, and he mentioned live from a shark cage and a big light went on in my head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PcoysxOYfA

ogmor, Thursday, 31 October 2013 19:42 (twelve years ago)

Vinyl edition of this: track listings make it seem like it might be worth checking out---links to some tracks below (on the same page with tracks from the same-day vinyl of an okay-for-Spotify Shel Silverstein trib; more about that on the National Record Day thread)
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/1dff6e90b856dc06c872242fe/images/johnfahey.jpg
Welk Music Group and Vanguard Records will release the first vinyl edition of I AM THE RESURRECTION: A TRIBUTE TO JOHN FAHEY on November 29, 2013 in celebration of Record Store Day’s Black Friday.

Known as the father of the “American primitive guitar”, John Fahey is one of acoustic music’s most noted innovators. His work has influenced countless musicians from a wide range of musical genres. I Am the Resurrection: A Tribute to John Fahey is a 13 track collection that includes a who’s who of indie rock artists’ paying their respects to the folk legend. Co -produced by M. Ward and Vanguard staffer Stephen Brower the album features cuts from Fruit Bats, Sufjan Stevens, Calexico, Devendra Banhart, and Sonic Youth's Lee Ranaldo, among others.

The albums are issued on 2xLP white vinyl and green marbled vinyl and mastered at 45rpm for maximum fidelity. Click here to listen to some of the tracks with full track listings below.
https://soundcloud.com/vanguard-records/sets/vanguard-and-sugar-hill

Black Friday was created by the organizers of Record Store Day as a way to celebrate and spread the word about the unique culture surrounding nearly 1000 independently owned record stores in the US and thousands of similar stores international. For more information visit http://recordstoreday.com/CustomPage/1210

Tracklisting:

I AM THE RESURRECTION: A TRIUBUTE TO JOHN FAHEY
1. "Death of the Clayton Peacock" - Fruit Bats
2. "Sunflower River Blues" - Pelt
3. "Variation on 'Commemorative Transfiguration and Communion at Magruder Park'" - Sufjan Stevens
4. "Sligo River Blues" - Devendra Banhart
5. "Dance of Death" - Calexico
6. "The Singing Bridge Of Memphis, Tennessee (Brooklyn Bridge Version: The Coelcanth)" - Lee Ranaldo
7. "Bean Vine Blues, No. 2" - M. Ward
8. "The Portland Cement Factory at Monolith, CA" -Cul de Sac
9. "Dance of the Inhabitants of the Palace of King Phillip XIV of Spain" - Jason Q. Lytle
10. "Joe Kirby Blues" - Immerglück, Kaphan, Krummenach & Hanes
11. "Medley: John Hurt Shiva Shankarah" - Currituck Co.
12. "When the Catfish is in Bloom" - Peter Case
13. "My Grandfather's Clock" - Howe Gelb

dow, Thursday, 31 October 2013 22:48 (twelve years ago)

haven't though about currituck co. for a while

ogmor, Thursday, 31 October 2013 23:05 (twelve years ago)

this compilation was probably the first Fahey related thing I've ever heard in early 2000 and the "Medley: John Hurt Shiva Shankarah" - Currituck Co. was and is my favorite track.

DFBM (Nikolaus Höhle), Friday, 1 November 2013 00:38 (twelve years ago)

<3 currituck co. kevin barker has been busy with his filmmaking!
he and his wife made this awesome movie --
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1745740/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

imdb reviews are mixed but i really liked it. our roomie contributed some of the music.

ian, Friday, 1 November 2013 02:40 (twelve years ago)

(it's on netflix btw)

ian, Friday, 1 November 2013 03:04 (twelve years ago)

I'm not sure Richard Dawson belongs on here, but he might do and you should listen to Richard Dawson. I like Richard Dawson.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 1 November 2013 08:56 (twelve years ago)

Richard Dawson,

ogmor, Friday, 1 November 2013 11:17 (twelve years ago)

dig the papa m stuff a lot

btw solar motel is on spotify now, great so far

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:28 (twelve years ago)

ha i had a papa m cd in my alarm clock as wakeup music for years and to this day my husband can't stand it and refers to it by making this plunnnnnnng plunnnnnnnnnnng noise
i think the track was "arundel"?

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:53 (twelve years ago)

I've been messing around with acoustic resonance, feedback, high pitches, low pitches, metal scrapes, and any object that adds a harder curtain to coleuses with straight finger picking.

I bought a cheap rabab here in Cairo, which is a 1 string fiddle, just to use the bow, the fiber is much looser than a well made fiddle bow. Ever since figuring out how to do Jack Rose's "Sun Dogs" technique, I love wasting my time listening to that glorious high pitches, low pitches, and metal screeches.

Wife isn't to found of loud drone exploration on the acoustic but I gotta do what is flouting around in my head. Here is a first take of combining the "Sun Dogs" technique while bowing the guitar, a multitude of pitches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3wuEETGpQ8

Neal Cassady, Monday, 4 November 2013 15:58 (twelve years ago)

you're good at the sun dogs thing! is there a particular trick to it?

ogmor, Monday, 4 November 2013 19:33 (twelve years ago)

Matt this is rad! thanks for showing!

And some list: http://totalvibration.tumblr.com/post/66103908941/slide-into-sligo-creek-36-american-primitive-records
with the usual suspects and more...

DFBM (Nikolaus Höhle), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 19:44 (twelve years ago)

Can we now maybe start a new thread for our own experiments in this style and keep this one for talking about people who are touring, releasing records, etc?

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:33 (twelve years ago)


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