Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

does anyone in this thread dig the stuff Zachary Hay does? he keeps putting out records under different names, starting with Bronze Horse, then the Dove Azima, and now Green Glass. More outside/avant-garde in feel than a lot of what is on this thread, but he delves into the 'americana' sound as well from time to time. i really like his stuff, personally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W4U_0t25Eg&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL5FFB4988942C174C

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdByFSStRNw

Some of it was posted above, and yeah, I dug it. I said something silly like it sounded like early Sonic Youth going acoustic, but still, it was cool. As I dig through the pile I will listen to these clips you've posted. Somebody else cool was repping for this guy recently too, but my mind is to overloaded to remember who right now.

the Ragtime Ralph - Vol. 4 linked to upthread has really stuck with me...shame Takoma never ended up putting it out, I think it's as good as anything the label released.

lost blues was my fav ragtime ralph i think, but there's so much. even tho he's a bit narrow as a player he does some stuff so well & effortlessly, hard not to love him

was away for the alert, but quite like the tashi dorji. the prepared stuff is hard to well, worth keeping an eye on.

listening to blind willie johnson as you have to from time to time. god moves on the water was always my fav, fizzing & popping. such an incredible player.

Yeah, I definitely like that Zachary Hay stuff, it has a very cool feel to it. He gets some almost piano-like hits from his strings at times. Ian, what's your favorite Hay record/project (if using a different name counts as a project).

Ogmor, glad you checked out that Dorji. I think he has a pretty good mix of prepared/extended technique stuff juxtaposed against some slightly more straightforward musicality/playing, which as you state is hard to do well. Definitely interested to see where he takes it.

If anyone is so inclined, here is the latest live set from my duo Grand Banks:

https://grand-banks.bandcamp.com/album/grand-banks-live-10-18-2013

Slow-burning improv stuff for the most part, but there is some "guitar as guitar" playing in there. Decent fall/lead-up to Halloween kinda music if you are looking for some instrumental jams to add to the listening pile.

Anyone want to come along? No limit on seat reservations:

http://www.puffinculturalforum.org/events/event/282-william-tyler.html

If I lived up that way I would be there. Still never seen W. Tyler live.

I'm pretty excited! I love seeing favorite musicians in more-relaxed-than-typical-venue settings, too.

Nice Aquarium Drunkard write-up of the new Chris Forsyth record by Tyler, with a full 12 minute track to stream. There really is just some fantastic playing all over this record:

http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2013/10/22/chris-forsyth-solar-motel/

Agree on the relaxed venue thing too. It really makes a difference seeing the type of stuff this thread mainly focusses on in the right kind of room.

oh lord pac this Solar Motel is so great

can't wait for this

dream tour: Rangda/Solar Motel

yeah i would quit my job an just follow that bill around like a deadhead. my review of solar motel might be sliiiiightly over the top, but not too much. i really love it -- and wish there were more records like it!

i like how at first it feels like a way more mellow/desert Television and by the end it's way more crazy than Television

it also has it's own character that feels very distinct from Television, Rangda came to mind just because it feels like rock musicians playing together with an almost jazz exploratory vibe within a defined style and structure

yeah, i've got some half-baked theory that so many great guitarists have gotten waylaid by trying to be "songwriters" over the years, instead of playing to their strengths and yeah, doing more "jazz exploratory" kinds of things. like, what if eric clapton was never convinced to become a singer-songwriter and just started doing awesome guitar instrumental albums in 1968. [i guess this is the closest thing to what I'm thinking of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_the_Game]

i guess Jeff Beck kinda took that route, at least for a while, but he's the only big one I can really think of.*

*outside of guitar mag dudes like allen holdsworth who no one actually ever cared about

Might add Cian Nugent & The Cosmos based on the album tracks I have heard. Forsyth's Solar Motel Band & The Cosmos would hit almost every aspect of what I like about the electric guitar in one night. Throw Rangda on that bill as well and hell, it would cave my head in.

But yeah, a lot of folks should have taken the advice "shut up and play your guitar".

right, it's a slippery slope into weird chopsy guitar mag stuff.
and yeah, the nugent record is solar motel's main competition for awesome guitar workout record of the year. though it's fairly different in tone/approach, i think.

I haven't heard the whole thing, but yeah it seems like it will be different from Forsyth's in lots of ways, so maybe a good compliment live.

I think the way Forsyth incorporates healthy doses of skronky, unhinged, and downright noisy moments to his relatively structured compositions keeps the "chopsy guitar mag" vibes away, he has a good balance. He obviously can play like crazy, but seems to avoid playing any "licks" that sound TOO studied/show-offy.

i kind of think of him as verlaine & lloyd in one brain

This just in from the Tompkins Square list

http://ih.constantcontact.com/fs106/1101382621048/img/129.jpg

NPR has premiered Ryley Walker's debut single, "The West Wind."

"With the charming swagger of jazz-folk troubadour Tim Buckley and the resonant, full picking style of Bert Jansch, "The West Wind" comes from Walker's first widely available release, a three-song 12". With acoustic guitar in hand and a voice like browned butter, Walker swings and sways in a lush string-and-piano arrangement right out of Buckley's Starsailor; it slowly picks up to a swirling gallop without bucking the rhythm." - NPR Music

Ryley is a 24 year-old singer/songwriter and guitarist from Chicago. Having kicked around Chicago's experimental free/noise music scene for several years, Ryley recently turned to a folk-rock sound inspired by some of his heroes, among them Tim Hardin, Tim Buckley, and Bert Jansch. The result is a poised and accomplished debut album, recorded in Chicago by Cooper Crain (guitarist/keyboardist in Cave). The album will be released by Tompkins Square in April 2014.

A 3 song 12" EP featuring "The West Wind" and two non-LP B sides (including one instrumental duet with Daniel Bachman) will be released on Nov 29th (Black Friday) on Tompkins Square. Sleeve design by Plastic Crimewave.

The first single, "The West Wind," is out today and available on every digital service worldwide.

Listen via NPR http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2013/10/15/230815583/vikings-choice-acoustic-swagger-exists-and-ryley-walker-has-it

haha ok if we need a pt. 2 to this thread it's going to be called Acoustic Swagger Exists, And ILX Has It

sounds great

like the full band arrangement, reminds me of Shirley Collins & the Albion Band

re: Zachary Hay -- I just got the Green Glass record a few days ago, so I haven't listened to it tons of times yet, but right now I'm leaning toward that one!

Cool, thanks Ian.

Dig that Solar Motel clip, excited for the record, though I could live with out some of the percussion choices (cowbell)

ha yeah, that might be the one thing i'd change about it - maybe just mix it slightly lower.
this is relevant to this thread: http://frontpsych.com/new-american-primitivism/

This is getting bumped in every feed/online resource of mine. I imagine that this is one of many of these types of lists still to come. Glad it went "somewhat" broad (cool to see Metzger put officially in the mix) and I am all for exposure for most of these folks, but it didn't have a thing on this here thread. I wonder what the typical audience is for that site, had never seen it until everyone I know who cares about this stuff started pointing to this list.

i'd never heard of that site before either... there will probably be a bunch of 2013 year of the fahey roundups. but yeah, this thread is obviously the place to be!

I hope that in future instalments Marisa Anderson gets more shouts, both for the obvious reason of diversifying the mix a bit but also because damn her records are good. I really like the feel of her stuff and it is cool that she improvises it all, which is an interesting departure from a lot of these folks as well.

Still sad I missed her here in Charlottesville. She got added to the Godspeed bill, which I wasn't gonna make for all kinds of reasons, instead of playing this really lovely outdoor space that she had originally been booked to play. Hope she swings back through, would love to see her play live, don't get to see good slide players enough.

Just hit me like a ton of bricks that Jack Rose not being alive and putting out albums is really fucking with me right about now.

yeah, i mean, i feel like a lot of this stuff is more post-Jack Rose rather than post-John Fahey (though obviously the two go hand in hand to some extent). but it seems like he inspired a lot of the current players as much as Fahey.

Yeah, it is sad that there won't be a ton of records left by Jack. I feel like almost every review/piece in recent memory brings him up at least.

A ton of NEW records that is, thankfully we got some great ones before he left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b8jGVzURUc

http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2013/10/24/wooden-wand-interviews-william-tyler-interviews-wooden-wand/#more-37600

Well, this is weird, I got a little off-site shout-out from complete strangers! Whoa. Kind of made my day:

http://dyingforbadmusic.com/blog/post/2013/10/steve-palmer-fables-of-the-feral-boys-2013.html

That Brendan Canning album is pretty damn cool. Some tracks I really need to go revisit, a lot going on... Been meaning to check out Marissa Anderson also- had to miss a performance of hers due to work, but any good place to start?

Not surprised Global, I think your stuff is good enough to release personally. I have listened to those bandcamp albums quite a few times.

There isn't really a bad place to start with Marisa, everything I have heard is good. It is actually all up on bandcamp, I would just start with the latest, Mercury:

http://marisaanderson.bandcamp.com/album/mercury

@global tetrahedron your stuff is awesome! I think I dug it here or over bandcamp... can't remember!

I also learned today that William Tyler released something even before "the paper hats - the deseret canyon"
http://www.normanrecords.com/records/143638-the-paper-hats-come-and-see-
It came out on a german label btw. :)

i really liked the last marisa anderson, just haven't been feeling the new one yet for no particular reason

Sorry to keep bombing this thread with so much, but here's another relevant link. Really enjoyed that W. Tyler/JJ Toth interview above, and in a similar vein this C. Forsyth interview is definitely interesting. Gives real insight into how the recent records differ from each other and a whole bunch of other stuff:

http://adhoc.fm/post/interview-chris-forsyth/

That Solar Motel artwork is so cool- the photobooth one on the back cover in particular adds to the atmosphere of the music in a way I dig quite a bit...

congrats global that's a nice writeup

really enjoyed that wooden wand/tyler conversation

Hey guys - saw Marisa tonight and she was exceptional. Just really, really great - medleys, Stephen Foster, and a great new thing called "Bluegrass Parking Lot" (may not be the actual title) that really knocked me out. I'm very tired so I apologize for the 'bullet points,' but wanted to note a few things before I forgot:

1. She's traveling with four guitars. When I asked, all know-it-all-y, "Ah, for different tunings?" she said no - they're tuned identically (open D, she said), but she said that they just sound different, and do different things. So she travels with four guitars for their distinctive sonic qualities. I thought that was an interesting detail.

2. She has a new album coming out in a few months - all public domain songs. Some church songs, some state songs and a murder ballad, she says.

3. Though the albums are all improvised (culled and edited down from longer jams), the live set is not! Kinda backward, and kinda awesome: She makes the album, then learns the songs so that she can play them live. I'm sure other guitarists have used this approach, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.

4. Her first name is pronounced "ma-REE-sa."

cool, really sad i missed her when she was through mpls :(

point #3 is really surprising!