A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

Live Album listed among the worst live records in The Book of Rock Lists

^ this is very sad. Goddamn, whatever lists there are in that book must be shit. Live Album fucking rules. One of the best live albums ive ever heard.

i like them a lot. they are actually more varied than the radio hits would lead you to believe. they could be dopey, but their albums are very entertaining and honest to gosh funky too at times.

― scott seward, Friday, October 18, 2013 2:09 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Totally agree. The first three or four albums totally slay. Dont let the "Locomotion" turn you off, that's not representative of Grand Funk. They declined once they got the keyboardist in.

Grand Funk would be a pretty sweet band for this kind of treatment.

Grand Funk wasn't gonna challenge their audience.

^according to some old sages who were around at the time ive spoken with and would know, nobody got the crowd lathered up as much as Grand Funk on a good nite

yeah that epigram always amused me: Chicago's future included revolutionary tracts like "hard for me to say I'm sorry"…

grand funk were despised by the crit intelligensia (marsh, bangs, marcus) for, probly, catering to the kids and blue collar folks who came up right after '67-'69. They had the teenage burnout audience to themselves (maybe Alice Cooper). No big band would be as viscerally disdained until Kiss, a band notably unbeloved by many contributing here. Chad kroeger was on Howard stern with his wife Avril this week, and a lot of listeners complained: "nickelback sucks" etc…Howard said reminded him that in the early-mid 70s you had to hate GFR, cuz Mark Farner was indeed shirtless. Maybe Nickelback, who I don't despise, will be regarded more kindly, in that it seems to me most people dislike their lumpen proletarian audience, rather like GFR forty years ago.

I just got Detroit Rock city, an oral history of detroit rawk from my wife, who gets a lot of free books, and a quick jump through discloses that either Wayne or Dennis feel like if they were managed better or did less titanic amounts of heroin, that the Five woulda had GFR's audience. I don't like to play "they coulda been contenders" but the idea of MC5 being as big as the Who please me. Nothing against GFR, they just always seemed dull.

and just as I'm writing this, the Haim song with "Heartache Tonight" beat comes on…

D'oh, you're right. I hope somebody got fired for that blunder.

Eh, lots of google results for "bone" anyways. Also many spellings of "Mel Shocker", grrr

wait
veronica moser is not a woman? maybe she is a woman with a wife?

Theres no question that elitism plays a part in Grand Funk's reputation with the "intelligentsia" (if intelligence can be used to describe a scumbag like Dave Marsh).

Fuck em all, Grand Funk sounds good to these ears. Definitely not dull and definitely not like Nickelback.

Actually Marsh liked GFR for awhile (or pretended to) before leaving Detroit for RS and Springsteen worship. "E Pluribus Funk" made his '71 top ten! [/pedantic Creem archivist]

I just got Detroit Rock city, an oral history of detroit rawk from my wife, who gets a lot of free books, and a quick jump through discloses that either Wayne or Dennis feel like if they were managed better or did less titanic amounts of heroin, that the Five woulda had GFR's audience. I don't like to play "they coulda been contenders" but the idea of MC5 being as big as the Who please me. Nothing against GFR, they just always seemed dull.

fwiw, the Who was the only band that the MC5 didn't blow off the stage at the Grande (I think they agreed it was a draw).

From the perspective of 2013 it might seem ludicrous that the MC5 coulda been as big as the Who or GFR, but Kick Out The Jams charted higher than any Who album had at that point. And while the single only reached the high 80s in the Hot 100 chart, it was #1 in Detroit.

And I don't aggressively hate GFR or anything, and any band that can get a crowd up is ok by me. But getting a crowd boogieing is one thing; getting them boogieing while simultaneously drawing the ire of the FBI is another. I guess that's more what I mean by challenging an audience -- or inspiring an audience to challenge.

lol grand funk derailthread

Grand Funk would be a pretty sweet band for this kind of treatment.

― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, October 18, 2013 1:36 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

good idea

"Veronica moser", per ILM and a few other online fora, is a man. The real Veronica Moser is a notorious female star of german pornography. The words "german pornography" should be a significant heads-up that one googles that name at their peril.

another band that would be pretty cool to do this with would be Genesis IMO. lot of ground to cover.

ooo Genesis would be great.

grand funk records are enjoyable. they're fun to hear! i have a best-of in the store that i listen to (a later one) that mixes in stuff that isn't remembered today and, along with their canny cover choices, its solid all the way through. i like their sound and the early stuff rocks hard, but i will go along with the critics when it comes to their actual lyrics which could be REALLY really dumb and almost sub-literate at times. they were just lazy in the writing department. even by hard blooze rock standards. the MUSIC they wrote wasn't bad though.

like, some of their songs have lyrics that look like a high school kid or junior high school kid wrote them and even then it might be a slander to high school and junior high school kids to even say that.

genesis you get it all from fancy pants prog to 80s pop and that weird in-between era

Xpost^^So not that different than the Eagles then? (I kid...or not?)

Sure, but a junior high kid not without knowledge of classic soul/blues/r&b lyrical tropes and the occasional grasping at poetic metaphor

xxpost

i'm actually a much bigger fan of ten years after. the nickelback comparison works in a way. GF became hugely successful taking 60's blues rock and grand funkifying it. lots of bands did the same thing obviously. and i'm sure people tore their hair out and thought it was a crime that rory gallagher (or fleetwood mac or chicken shack or whoever had more street cred) wasn't as huge as grand funk.

"Hooked On Love"

Well, did you ever have something, you want the whole wide world to know about?
It's that something I must tell you, that you just can't live without.
Ten times your fingers, and double your toes,
That's how much I love you and how much it shows.

[CHORUS]
You know that I am ... hooked on love.
I'll tell you what I am ... hooked on love.
Believe me when I say it ... hooked on love.
Hooked on love, ohhhh ...

My brothers and sisters, hear what I say.
I'm gonna' love you, to my dying day.
When I tell you that I love you, well, at least I tried.
I want you to believe me, this ain't no lie.

[CHORUS]

Satisfy my need in life, now, let me hear you say.
You'll be lovin' me alright, until your dyin' day.
Just say it a little bit louder now, I'm startin' to get in your groove, yeah.
You've got nothing to worry about, your love is on the move.
I hope some day the light of love shines bright upon your face.
I don't care who you are, I love the human race.

Satisfy my need in life, now, let me hear you say.
You'll be lovin' me alright, until your dyin' day.
Just say it a little bit louder now, I'm startin' to get in your groove, yeah
You've got nothing to worry about, your love is on the move.
I hope some day the light of love shines bright upon your face.
I don't care who you are, I love the human race.

I'm sitting here lonely like a broken man.
I serve my time doin' the best I can.
Walls and bars they surround me.
But, I don't want no sympathy.

No baby, no baby,
All I need is some tender lovin'.
To keep me sane in this burning oven.
And, when my time is up, you'll be my reefer.

Life gets worse on God's green earth.
Be my reefer, got to keep smokin' that thing.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

i'll stop there. but there are dozens of wonderful examples. spiritualized should cover "hooked on love". looks like one of that dude's songs.

I'm generally of the opinion that lyrics aren't meant to be read/printed, but ffs, even Aretha couldn't breathe depth into those.

one more head-exploding example:

"Freedom Is For Children"

I wrote the words of freedom,
I've even sung the song.
But freedom is for children,
'Cause they don't understand what's wrong.

The children are so very lucky,
'Cause they're not old enough to know.
Not old enough to realize,
But they'll find out as they grow.

The children are so very lucky,
But, on the other hand, who's gonna' save the land?
The children are so very lucky,
But man's invention is gonna' be the prevention of their life.

This song is nearly over,
And so's the world and the day.
There's something missin',
But who will listen enough to do what it will take?

Freedom is for children. Why can't it be for me?
Freedom is for children. Why can't it be for me?

Freedom is for children. Why can't it be for me?
Freedom is for children. Why can't it be for me?
Freedom is for children. Why can't it be for me?

like, if your 8 year old kid wrote that you would show it to people and be proud. if your 12 year old kid wrote it you might start looking for a tutor or something. or a shrink.

"Gotta Find Me A Better Day"

I been gettin' lonely, too much these days.
I been gettin' lonely, I guess I better get away.
But where can I go that's real? Life's a stage on a ferris wheel.
And the actors are all fighting just to see who gets the lead in the play.

Oh, no, no.
I gotta' find me a better day.

Talk about down, I feel so lonely.
Talk about down, I'm startin to worry.
Don't really want to be all alone. I can't get along with the chicks at home.
The world just don't seem right, my head is spinnin', and I hate what's goin' down.

You gotta' find me a better day.

Oh, gotta' find me a better day.
Gotta' find me a better day.
You gotta' find me a better day.
Gotta' find me a better day.
Gotta' find me a better day.
Gotta' find me a better day.
You gotta' find me a better day.
Gotta' find me a better day.
Gotta' find, gotta' find,
Gotta' find me a better day.
Gotta' find, gotta' find,
Gotta' find,
Gotta' find me a better day.
Gotta' find me a better day.
Gotta' find me a better day.
Gotta' find me a better day.
Gotta' find me a better day.
[repeat to fade]

I could totally see a high school hardcore band writing something like that.

oh god i can't stop. i'll stop. life's a stage on a ferris wheel! for your information.

well, that's why kids liked them so much. they were kid-like. but i stand by their music. and terry knight knew how to make stuff sound awesome. the album they did with zappa sounds good too.

i'm a big fan of terry knight in general. terry knight and the pack were amazing. he produced question mark & the mysterians. i like the stuff on his label, brown bag. i like his production of grand funk and bloodrock.(even though things didn't end well between him and those bands) he was knifed to death in texas.

rory gallagher irish tour 74 fucking slays

also JUST IN TIME GUYS AND GALS!!!!

http://www.stereogum.com/1525322/win-eagles-the-studio-albums-1972-1979-vinyl-box-set/giveaway/

i even like his bonkers paul is dead song that capitol was insane enough to put out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qihYFfOd_lk

yeah irish tour is the bomb. i like a lot of his records. with taste and without.

Pop market is selling the CD version of the Eagles box for $29.99 today (one day only special).

i kinda wish we could do kansas instead of genesis. genesis are already taken really seriously by people. i only know like three kansas songs. i've never listened to an album. it would be a brave new world. there have got to be choice kansas deep cuts. right? plus, great fashion and solo album art.

http://www.recordsbymail.com/uploads/9-4-13-LPs2/51243.JPG

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1j8sjIbWzLY/UfP-qwU4eeI/AAAAAAAAGPc/iPzZvCxvRMw/s1600/kansas+s+walsh.jpg

Wow that guy likes himself and his chest a lot. xp

Haha I thought he was skateboarding, not doing a handstand on a keyboard.

they've aged well too.

http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2012-02/228294380-23225316.jpg

kinda curious about 80's Kansas...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Kansas_-_In_the_Spirit_of_Things.jpg

good Lord, that's like the fourth-tier superhero team you call when everyone else is tied up somewhere (xp)

They scored a MIDI-infused eighties hit

Avengers Kansas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQnltsBiwHM

i experienced an excellent kansas deep cuts moment at the billboard film and tv music conference a year ago, when judd apato was reminiscing about his favorite bands when he was a teenager and started singing "portrait (he knew)" from point of know return. kansas would be fun! on the other hand, i once owned that steve walsh solo album and, despite that amazing cover, um, no.

apatow, dammit.

How about Styx? I've never owned a Styx album, barely know the songs outside of the hits - indeterminate membership from the 90s onward. Also, WTF is this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Styx_-_Cyclorama.jpg

Think we should poll this? So far contenders for next track-by-track thread are:

Styx
Kansas
Genesis
Chicago
Journey

I'm sure I left a bunch out.