I found their website. Bless.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jaestar/rebar/rebar.html
― carl agatha, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:32 (twelve years ago)
Seventy seconds into this song and I couldn't finish it. What a fucking plod.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2013 13:34 (twelve years ago)
jesus christ, this song. there's no reason anyone who don't own the record would have heard it, as the average AOR/classic rock listener would be bewildered and change the station…
every single aspect reeks of showbiz sherbert/peruvian marching powder. "ssnnnfffff…uh…yeah…this is great…uuuhhhff…"
it's like Glenn wanted to do a parody of alice cooper/sabbath song, but 5-6 years too late. so ill-advised, but one of two tunes he sings on the record. In particular, Don sounds very gacked up. Know what though? I'll take this and tomorrow's selection over the sanctimonious elegy coming up on Sunday. I'm glad they put this on the record: you'd think a band universally known to be careerist, risk-averse and beholden to "quality control" would have developed one of the riffs you can hear on "Long run leftovers) instead of this utterly bizarre episode of cocaine psychosis.
― veronica moser, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:35 (twelve years ago)
okay okay I finished it. The solo is fine but what is it doing attached to such a ponderous tempo?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2013 13:35 (twelve years ago)
because Don sucks most of the time. It is indeed strange as someone said upthread that he seemed to want to be a drummer. Peter Gabriel started off as a drummer, but made a choice that Don probly should have. Fuck, it doesn't strain credulity that maybe Syzmicyckckckckck edited in, like Russ Kunkel or Joe vitale playing various parts like that swinging ride cymbal…
― veronica moser, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:47 (twelve years ago)
It's like they're trying to do the Stones' "Sway," or something Sabbathy, but like Billy Joel when he tries to "rock," they inevitably fail miserably. And every utterance of Henley's makes me want to just pound and pound his face with a shovel.
But that synthesizer solo is ace. It's like Sun Ra snuck into the studio and laid it down when no one was around. But since all the Eagles were coked out of their skulls, they assumed one of them probably did it. A quick round of rock-paper-scissors gave Frey the credit.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 13:50 (twelve years ago)
i still like it! it doesn't really sound like eagles maybe that's why. its kind of a weird tune. i'll take this filler any day over most of their filler. the guitars really do sound great.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:54 (twelve years ago)
their jacuzzis really do runneth over
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2013 13:54 (twelve years ago)
Is Don Henley supposed to be dressed up as ... Don Henley in that picture?
― pplains, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:56 (twelve years ago)
perhaps as a supplementray exercise today a list of singer-drummers? this should only encompass drummers who were one of the main singers of the band, not the drummer who sings occasionally (ringo, bill ward)
Phil Collins, Karen Carpenter, Levon Helm, Kelly keaggy…and who else? If anyone can cite a singer-drummer as swing-deficient as DH…they win, I guess.
and "Teenage Jail" has to be in a tie with "Journey of the Sorceror" as the most out-of-character cut they done…
― veronica moser, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:02 (twelve years ago)
the guy from the Romantics?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:03 (twelve years ago)
Grant Hart!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:03 (twelve years ago)
Don Brewer!
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:04 (twelve years ago)
― scott seward, Friday, October 18, 2013 9:54 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'll grant that this is better than most of their filler, mainly because it's more obviously filler than the other filler that was trying to pretend it wasn't filler.
It's still hilarious to me that it took them 2 1/2 years to make a record, had to hijack a Walsh tune, shoehorned in this filler, and still couldn't hit the 43 minute mark.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:06 (twelve years ago)
His drumwork was indeed competent.
xp
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:07 (twelve years ago)
Mickey Dolenz!
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:08 (twelve years ago)
Hilarie Sidney!
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:09 (twelve years ago)
What's-his-name from Mates of State!
Janet Beveridge Bean and Georgia Hubley (and Mo Tucker)
― col, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:09 (twelve years ago)
Milford Graves!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:11 (twelve years ago)
The guy from Night Ranger!
(those aren't the same person, btw)
Al Bouchard
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:15 (twelve years ago)
the guy from Rare Earth
Buddy Miles
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:16 (twelve years ago)
scott seward @skotrok 21m"Teenage Jail" is underrated, I don't care what anyone says. The guitars are great!Collapse
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:18 (twelve years ago)
that's right i tweeted about it.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:19 (twelve years ago)
who's kelly keaggy?
Night Ranger dude.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:20 (twelve years ago)
the answer to Senor Seward's question is answered by Tarfumes' second to last post. His fills before the closing verse in "sister Christian" achieve henley levels of hapless flailing…
running the risk of sounding like a Eagles-style sexist, the only drummers cited so far that are shittier than Don are female. I'm not a fan of the Mo Tucker school, and don't think Georgia is very good.
― veronica moser, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:25 (twelve years ago)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, October 18, 2013 10:07 AM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I always love that someone says this when Brewer's name comes up, he was actually a damn good drummer.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:35 (twelve years ago)
Georgia's no Buddy Miles, but there's nothing as soul-killingly plodding as H's work on "Victim of Love" in the YLT catalog
― col, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:36 (twelve years ago)
― veronica moser, Friday, October 18, 2013 8:35 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah my first thought was that this was kind of a sabbath parody, like a sarcastic shot at their burnout fans etc?
what a bunch of dicks.
i feel like i've said this like 12 times on this thread but i cannot believe this mess got on a major label "event" album from a big band.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:42 (twelve years ago)
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, October 18, 2013 10:35 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'll grant that he was better than competent. But Mel Schacher's bass never literally rattled my bones, nor did I ever find Mark Farner's lyrics to be particularly wild (or, for that matter, shirtless).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:48 (twelve years ago)
Let's just move on to discussing what sort of vehicle the Alan Parsons Project was.
(Hovercraft, obvs.)
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:52 (twelve years ago)
Spaceship duh!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:54 (twelve years ago)
fully-equipped RV
― col, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:56 (twelve years ago)
Pretty sure it was a hovercraft.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5x7ntsUZS1qz9m8ao1_500.png
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:56 (twelve years ago)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/Time_passages.jpg
― col, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:58 (twelve years ago)
Don Henley's drumming doesn't disgust me because he is technically deficient -- I don't really care about that, so comparing "bad" drummers isn't really worthwhile -- but imo as a drummer he is boring, uncreative, and devoid of feeling/passion. He has no flavor. He has no zeal. He is the hospital food of drummers.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 18 October 2013 15:42 (twelve years ago)
his drumming is just like him
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 October 2013 15:42 (twelve years ago)
is the hospital food of drummers.
and just as expensive!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2013 15:43 (twelve years ago)
But Mel Schacher's bass never literally rattled my bones
^the bass sounds so good on their early records, especially the s/t red album. i dont have the chops to say whether he's a good player, but goddamn the bass just SOUNDED so good
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 15:47 (twelve years ago)
He is the hospital food of drummers.
This is hilariously OTM.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 15:59 (twelve years ago)
It's supposed to rattle your BONGS!
And John Garner is my favourite singe-drummer of ever.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 17:27 (twelve years ago)
lol "singer"
But singe-drumming does sound like some unappreciated art
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 17:29 (twelve years ago)
pretty sure mel would have rattled you if you had seen grand funk live in the early 70's. think they were supposed to reach Who-level decibels at concerts back then.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 17:35 (twelve years ago)
nor did I ever find Mark Farner's lyrics to be particularly wild (or, for that matter, shirtless).
It's the delivery, man...
http://api.ning.com/files/wUP*es1PHsQjxC0XEQNpNSPeiiYW3Egy6M0TyWhOSMwzbfKGR6FAeaczWWn9Lx6uqntBLn2jp1h2Vbd6xoTKymAZtnVs9PFW/387746_143901142377997_113234608777984_154005_582000117_n.jpg
As for "Teenage Jail" (which, tbh, sounds like a GFR title)--more genuinely classic filler. Henley later called the three obvious filler pieces on this album "comedy songs", and I have to say that for such uptight & humorless dudes, their comedy material is way better than the peaceful easy loverman snoozefests that normally filled the bands between the hits. As for the Sabbath thing, perhaps their (musical) influence from those days at Criteria finally rubbed off?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 18 October 2013 17:37 (twelve years ago)
people kinda forget that grand funk were as big an influence on future metal as deep purple or black sabbath. they were heavy heavy live. lots of bands got heavier after hearing them. world-wide. (or at least when people talk about the roots of metal and proto-metal they don't always bring up grand funk.) (probably because they got less heavy as time went on.)
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 17:39 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, they're much better known for their goodtime boogiein' Freedom Rockin' singles than for "High On a Horse" or whatever
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 17:57 (twelve years ago)