Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

Was it called "It's the end of this poll as we know it" ?

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Tuomas - not rly serious, though I was hopeful about delays. Backpacking around Europe is less conducive to campaigning for recommendations / listening to all unfamiliar nominations than being at work.

I've said since the end of that REM poll that the experiment of the shortlist was a failure for reasons that should have been obvious to me at the time. Kinda cool results but not really ILM's favorite tracks. I always wanted to do it over as a standard ballot poll after five years or something, but it'd also be fair to pass the torch since I already had my shot and bungled it so thoroughly!

some dude, the consideration set was weird and the 30-track rollout proceeded in fits and starts over the course of ten months (November 2009-September 2010). interesting and fun but not nearly comparable to today's state of the art.

doctor casino, no offense intended by raising the question. the poll of polls was a fun experiment. fwiw by the time we get to it would be about 5 years!

Yeah, it was by no means "proper!"

I do stand by the slow rollout. Ten months was, uh, a little long - - - but the standard pace around here flies by so fast, you can miss a really lively discussion about your favorite song just because you had to, like, go to work.

The "poll of polls" was just a bad idea through and through. I should have just finished all the album polls and then encouraged people to review those threads in making ballots - - - the nice thing about doing all those album polls is that it got all the songs back in people's heads, drew attention to oft-overlooked tracks ("Circus Envy" for example).

I think some version of that could almost work if the radio-button polls let you vote for 3-5 picks instead of 1. Way too many beloved songs that are just people's second-choice got lost in the shuffle. But really, there's no need to do nominations or a limited list for a single artist poll.

imo it was a great idea. some things you can't know until you test them.

aw, well thanks man. I do like the totally wacky results, especially the really unlikely consensus #1. I still think it makes a really great double-disc intro to the band...

(What really needs a re-do at the appropriate time is the Video Games poll, where you could only nominate one game per decade. Bizarre!)

STRONGEST EMOTION, THE DISCO EXPLOSION: It's the Grand ILM Disco Poll nomination thread (nomination time ends on Friday, November 1st)

Excellent thread title.

OOH YES

TEN!

NINE!

oh wait..

would be great if as part of the updated list of polls there were links to all the old results threads... come on, some lovely person do that

There's a dedicated thread for this (hasn't been updated since March though*):

ILM Ballot Polls: where to find the results threads

*I may do this tomorrow if someone else doesn't step in first

i might try and do this soon, though it was easier for WmC to do it because he had mod powers.

1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)
2. Beatles - Mark G (finished)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (finished)
4. U2 - Ismael Klata (finished)
5. Beach Boys - iatee (finished)
6. Led Zeppelin - WmC (finished)
7. Timbaland - some dude (finished)
8. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever (finished)
9. Stevie Wonder - Eric H. (finished)
10. “Producers” - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
11. Pulp - Finefinemusic (finished)
12. James Brown - strongo/Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
13. Jacksons - Jamie_ATP (finished)
14. David Bowie - WmC (finished)
15. Paul Simon - Lamp (finished)
16. Rolling Stones - rogermexico (finished)
17. The Kinks - C. Grisso/McCain (finished)
18. Depeche Mode - crüt (finished)
19. Beastie Boys - Johnny Fever (finished)
20. ABBA - donna rouge (finished)
20B. Bee Gees - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
21. Neil Young - clemenza (finished)
22. Fleetwood Mac - Clarke B. (finished)
23. The Cure - nate woolls (finished)
24. Kate Bush - Ismael Klata (finished)
25. The Who - Tarfumes the Escape Goat (finished)
26. Joni Mitchell - Mordy (finished)
27. The Neptunes - V79/some dude (finished)
28. Saint Etienne - Billy Dods (finished)
29. Hüsker Dü - Pleasant Plains (finished)
30. Bruce Springsteen - Jamie_ATP (finished)
31. Madonna - Johnny Fever (finished)
32. Miles Davis - WmC (finished)
33. The Fall - Mark G (finished)
34. PJ Harvey - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)
35. Cocteau Twins - Le Bateau Ivre/LeRooLeRoo(finished)
36. Sonic Youth - ArchCarrier (finished)
37. New Order - Bee OK (finished)
37B. The Doors - Ismael Klata (finished)
38. The Clash - Gukbe (finished)
39. Motown Singles - a hoy hoy (finished)
40. Jay-Z - some dude (finished)
41. Elton John - Johnny Fever (finished)
42. Stax - seandalai (finished)
43. Disco - Tuomas STRONGEST EMOTION, THE DISCO EXPLOSION: It's the Grand ILM Disco Poll nomination thread (nomination time ends on Friday, November 1st)
44. R. Kelly - Spottie_Ottie_Dope (opening this week)
45. Tom Waits - chap Way down in a POLL: ILM's top 50 Tom Waits tracks
46. The “Classic Rock” Canon - some dude (tentative)
47. Elvis Costello - kornrulez
48. Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry - charlie h
49. Pink Floyd - Elvis Telecom
50. Steely Dan - Bee OK
51. Bob Dylan - tipsy mothra
52. Sleater-Kinney + offshoots - C.Grisso/McCain
53. Outkast - The Reverend
54. Autechre - Leee
55. Brian Eno - WmC
56. Chic Organization - Donna Rouge
57. Spaceman 3 (& descendants) - Elvis Telecom
58. Radiohead - nate woolls
59. Yo La Tengo/Dump - clemenza
60. P-Funk - Shakey Mo Collier
61. Iggy Pop, incl. Stooges - flopson
62. The Boo Radleys - Bee OK
63. XTC - Shakey Mo Collier
64. Italo - daavid
65. Emo/Screamo/Mallcore/(post)Hardcore - Mordy
66. Creedence Clearwater Revival - crüt
67. “Epics” (non-classical division) - Leee
68. Hard Rock/Hair Metal - how’s life
69. Extreme Metal - Viceroy
70. Stephin Merritt - Gukbe
71. Pixies - Johnny Fever
72. Metallica - Pleasant Plains
73. Spoon - Bee OK
74. Nirvana - Gavin, Leeds
75. Fairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy Dods
76. Queen - charlie h
77. Dinosaur Jr. - Z S
78. Tom Petty - rogermexico
79. Ramones - tipsy mothra (tentative)
80. Jimi Hendrix - WmC
81. Sightings - Raymond Cummings
82. John Coltrane - Tarfumes the Escape Goat
83. Stereolab - Moka
84. Bauhaus/Love and Rockets-Tones on Tail/Peter Murphy - Bee OK
85. Genesis + solo - NickB
86. The Smiths - nate woolls
87. Pearl Jam - VegemiteGrrl
88. The Burt Bacharach songbook - WilliamC
89. Dead C - Raymond Cummings
90. Royal Trux + side projects - Drugs A. Money
91. John Fahey - Naive Teen Idol?
92. Rush - Matt #2
93. Velvet Underground + solo careers - Shakey Mo Collier
94. Oasis - darraghmac
95. Frontmen and Women - Ismael Klata
96. Talking Heads - Bee OK
97. Gamble & Huff/Philly International Records - jetfan
98. Stiff Records - Johnny Fever
99. Billy Joel - Doctor Casino
100. Low - aldo
101. Nine Inch Nails - chap
102. REM - rogermexico.

paging: Spottie_Ottie_Dope, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

HAPPY PEOPLE COME AND POLL IN THE NAME OF LOVE — R. Kelly artist poll

really liking some of the newer picks. Low will be amazing and Talking Heads has finally been added :-)

is there one of your favorites that is still missing, then why not add it to this list?

Hey, I'm almost up with Elvis Costello. Can somebody tell me how to run one of these bad boys? Isn't there a spreadsheet or something?

btw if Doctor Casino wants to run the REM thread I'm happy to turn it over - nbd got a couple years to decide

Hey, I'm almost up with Elvis Costello. Can somebody tell me how to run one of these bad boys? Isn't there a spreadsheet or something?

― kornrulez6969

I just used Excel.

Would like to see someone do a Bjork poll. And Siouxsie.

Forgot about Bjork. I'd volunteer to run that poll if I'm not dead by the time we get around to it.

i liked the way the big more-than-one-artist's-catalog-spanning polls were spaced out before with Motown and Stax not overlapping, so i'm gonna wait until the Disco poll has run its course to get the classic rock one going fyi.

Is there going to be an end-of-year hiatus on polls while the best of '13 voting/rollout happens?

What will be the cut-off for classic rock some dude? 1980?

I second a Bjork poll by the way. Would also love to see old skool hardcore/jungle.

Is there going to be an end-of-year hiatus on polls while the best of '13 voting/rollout happens?

Yeah, we'll probably need any voting to have ended by mid-December, though a particular poll's rollout can overlap with the EOY nominations process.

Yeah, def mark me down for Bjork.

btw if Doctor Casino wants to run the REM thread I'm happy to turn it over - nbd got a couple years to decide

― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:51 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

aww, thanks man. We can hash it out then, maybe good to be on a "buddy" system for these things.

kornrulez, Finefinemusic had some kind of template somewhere, IDK where u cd download it though

kornrulez, here's FFM's template, set up for a 20-song ballot. You can fiddle with the ballot size and points on the Vote Weight sheet. Let me know if you need an .xls emailed to you, or if you can use this online version.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Alm9ijj_zohtdDhKV1NraFUtWXptd25nbEZ0cGxYeXc#gid=0

What will be the cut-off for classic rock some dude? 1980?

― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, October 24, 2013 11:53 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's been a bit of discussion itt of how the classic rock poll will go down, starting here: Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

nothing's set in stone yet, and i don't know if a strict chronological cut-off will be employed, but if so it will definitely be later than 1980. for a long time U.S. stations seemed to abide by 1987 as the rough demarcation point, now it's moving later and later but it doesn't seem right to push past that.

I still like the idea of picking five major stations, finding their 500 song Labor Day countdowns, and including any song that made at least two of them. I guess the question is when the countdown's from. I vote 1996 for no real reason.

Not to put undue pressure on Shakey Mo, but given the recent passing of Lou, should the VU/solo careers poll commence soon?

I was just gonna ask...

Yes, set it up right now if you want to imo.

yes!

not a joyful "yes" obviously

gimme a day or two

I need the spreadsheet - anybody got a link?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Alm9ijj_zohtdDhKV1NraFUtWXptd25nbEZ0cGxYeXc#gid=0

muchas gracias!

Guess I'm Polling in Love: The Lou Reed Memorial Velvet Underground (and solo material) Ballot Poll Thread

Oh my god, that spreadsheet would've made my life so much easier when I was doing mine.

should be linked at the top of this thread imo

THEY ONLY COME OUT AT NIGHT! It's the Grand ILM Disco Poll voting thread (voting ends on Sunday, December 1st)

R. Kelly has been extended a bit: "Anyway bummmmp and also here to extend this until next Friday the 15th cos I need the time."

take all the time you need and God speed.

in the past most voting thread have been open for only around 10 days give or take, outside the non-artist polls. so to keep this thing moving a bit can we limit artist polls to around 10 days or so of open voting. thanks!

both R. Kelly and Velvet Underground results are starting on Monday, maybe...

anyways, kornrulez i think you can open Elvis Costello voting when ready.

I'm still working on my disco ballot. Now you're gonna make me work on Costello at the same time? Damn, that's just mean.