A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

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man I feel really bad in my younger days ever equating these guys with Fleetwood Mac. wow. so remotely not on the same planet.

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:03 (twelve years ago)

Crazy that from this record, you've got songs like I Can't Tell You Why and In the City -- not to even mention the High Plains Drifter song that's coming up -- and THIS one, THIS one that tries to mete out a funky little beat has been sampled by exactly NO ONE.

pplains, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:06 (twelve years ago)

yeah the weird takeaway i'm getting from this whole experience has been that even when i really hated the eagles it turns out i was still overrating them.

balls, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:09 (twelve years ago)

For me, there is nothing more comforting in life than having my hate for something completely justified.

pplains, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:12 (twelve years ago)

i do think henley is 80% of what's wrong w/ this track though, if it had been a minute and a half curio and maybe been more new wave instead of disco it might have been a fun bit of filler.

balls, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:16 (twelve years ago)

oh one thing I forgot to mention in my previous post - often I have fantasized that there was some sort of "strangling dance" move meant to accompany this song, but the song sabotages its funk underpinnings so thoroughly that dancing to this song is not actually possible.

Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:23 (twelve years ago)

not to even mention the High Plains Drifter song that's coming up

Really curious as to what the Eags reaction was when they heard/heard about the Beasties sample.

Wait, I don't care, fuck the Eagles.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:29 (twelve years ago)

yeah the weird takeaway i'm getting from this whole experience has been that even when i really hated the eagles it turns out i was still overrating them.

― balls, Monday, October 14, 2013 2:09 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i feel a version of this--like, for all the talk of professionalism there are so many garbage performances across these records that some material that had potential gets totally submarined.

call all destroyer, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:34 (twelve years ago)

For me, there is nothing more comforting in life than having my hate for something completely justified.

― pplains, Monday, October 14, 2013 6:12 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hahaha it is like you held up a mirror to my soul.

carl agatha, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:38 (twelve years ago)

how many songs do we have to go after The Long Run though. that thought kinda chills me to the bone.

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:50 (twelve years ago)

do you feel your hair growing into a mushroom of tight poodly curls?

Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:54 (twelve years ago)

hahaha it is like you held up a mirror to my soul.

Were their lines on said mirror?

Let me just say I really love the three obvious throwaways on this album. Say what you will, but at least they're not boring as what they've dished out previously, and these tracks are genuinely weird in that way that makes you wonder how the biggest band in the world landed on this stuff. And besides, where else can you hear Don Henley sing the following through a clinched sphincter: "Look at me, baby, look at me. I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, I'm somebody."?

Btw Shakey, did you ever make good on this?

"Disco Strangler" is my new favorite cover request to yell at bands. Especially alt-country bands.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, May 3, 2005 12:08 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:03 (twelve years ago)

yeah but that's satire oh right

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:06 (twelve years ago)

haha y'know I haven't seen any alt-country bands lately, will report back when I have

Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:08 (twelve years ago)

i assumed that by virtue of growing up within proximity of a radio, and also by virtue of growing up within proximity of an awful lot of '70s and '80s rock, i would have known this song. the title was familiar to me; i figured i heard it a t least a few times back in the day and had forgotten about it. but now i'm pretty sure i've never actually heard this song before.

four things about it:

1. it's totally not a bad song. it isn't great by any stretch either, but there's something appealing about the raggedness of the guitars, and the simple chorus hook works. and as a huge fan of rolling stones disco, i'll happily check out anything that sounds like sub-rolling stones disco.

2. the rolling stones IS the school of disco this is entirely inspired by and derived from, yes?

3. the random hard-left and hard-right panning of the hi-hat is giving me headaches.

4. this is about the 27th song that's come up on this thread that i thought could be made into a warren zevon song with just a little editing here or there. i don't think you'd have to edit this one at all though. just switch vocalists, add waddy wachtel's name to the credits (but don't actually change the part), and done.

open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:26 (twelve years ago)

the Stones have understood R&B since 1962.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:27 (twelve years ago)

the Eagles have understood R&B since never

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:27 (twelve years ago)

well that's what i mean by the "sub" in "sub-rolling stones disco." but that said, there's been at least a few songs on this thread that suggest the eagles, while not exactly the stones, do know a thing or two about r&b.

open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:29 (twelve years ago)

Glenn Frey ordered sheet music for Philly Soul songs so he could learn them!

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:30 (twelve years ago)

They like R&B. They don't get R&B.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:31 (twelve years ago)

Don: Well, yeah.

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:31 (twelve years ago)

yeah what's mildly disappointing about this is that the eagles have been fairly engaged w/ r&b and even disco to this point (ahead of their peers even w/ 'one of these nights'), they weren't tom petty.

balls, Monday, 14 October 2013 19:33 (twelve years ago)

They gambled: they thought they could write songs that compensated for their shitty rhythm section.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:36 (twelve years ago)

http://youtu.be/o5UkuNWSvas

pplains, Monday, 14 October 2013 19:42 (twelve years ago)

i think this thread proves beyond a doubt that we should just gather all the copies of the individual eagles albums and burn them, bonfire style

there's no reason for anything of the eagles to exist except their greatest hits

and even *that* is dangerous, because it lets people think there's undiscovered gems out there and we can tell the world categorically NO SIR, THERE ARE NOT

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 October 2013 20:25 (twelve years ago)

that's the thing right there. even with the non-hits that weren't terrible, i could name a dozen other bands that did it better. i mean there are plenty of non-hit zz top, allman bros, lynyrd skynyrd, poco, etc, etc, etc songs that are just so much better quality-wise. and funkier. and played better and just more fun to listen to. there are pure prairie league songs that are better than the marginally ok eagles non-hits!

scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 20:43 (twelve years ago)

and I think of my experience digging into the Rolling Stones catalog and finding all kinds of songs that could have formed their own non-hits compilation, like how the songs you hear on the radio are just the tip of the iceberg (at least for me personally)

and the eagles is like, how the fuck did they manage to have so many hits when they couldn't a) write a whole album that you could listen to start to finish and b) their non-hit material is SO bland/bad or downright offensive

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 October 2013 20:45 (twelve years ago)

it's like they are scientists who don't keep notes and just keep fucking up the same experiments over and over until poof it works and then they can't remember how they did it becuase they weren't paying attention so they start from scratch

every...single...time

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 October 2013 20:47 (twelve years ago)

i just think they got a lot of help! in the studio and from other musicians/songwriters. they would have moved back home in the early 70's if they hadn't hooked up with the dudes they hooked up with.

scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 20:49 (twelve years ago)

yeah definitely

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 October 2013 20:51 (twelve years ago)

well but that's it: the only outside help they got was J.D. Souther, one of their own. They didn't work with song doctors! They wrote and played their own shit. Their career makes a case for song doctors -- or, in Henley's case, Kooch and Mike Campbell.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 20:51 (twelve years ago)

SOMEONE PLEASE STOP THE EAGLES FROM WRITING THEIR OWN SONGS

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 October 2013 20:52 (twelve years ago)

well but that's it: the only outside help they got was J.D. Souther

and Jackson Browne and Jack Tempchin

Lee626, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:20 (twelve years ago)

"Disco Strangler" is my new favorite cover request to yell at bands. Especially alt-country bands.

I could probably play the drums on this, and I'm not even a drummer. I could also do the vocals - best way would be to insert earplugs so I couldn't hear what the rest of the band was playing

Lee626, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:24 (twelve years ago)

Yeah -- Jack Tempchin became Frey's Kootch and Campbell (oof).

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 21:27 (twelve years ago)

exactly!

Lee626, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:36 (twelve years ago)

if you include outside songwriters and other members of the band other than frey and henley - for instance their hired gun guitarist coming up with a complete version of their most famous song - they got LOTS of help.

scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:44 (twelve years ago)

And this was still the best they could do.

Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 21:52 (twelve years ago)

plus seger yet to come

balls, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:57 (twelve years ago)

man henley being a drummer is still such a weird mystery to me. dude clearly wouldn't have been the drummer unless he wanted to be the drummer and yet there is nothing to indicate this is a guy who cared about drumming, so so many tracks that might be salvageable if the drumming was even just adequate.

balls, Monday, 14 October 2013 22:02 (twelve years ago)

he's not a keyboardist, guitarist, singer, human being.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 22:11 (twelve years ago)

...registered sex offender

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2013 22:25 (twelve years ago)

well, yeah

Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 22:29 (twelve years ago)

there's no reason for anything of the eagles to exist except their greatest hits

Would OTM this except... EXCEPT for a certain cosmic concerto for banjo and string orchestra...

play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Monday, 14 October 2013 22:47 (twelve years ago)

yeah, that's my lone great discovery from this 3000+ post thread

Lee626, Monday, 14 October 2013 22:57 (twelve years ago)

"Chug All Night" has been good for running jokes and screen names.

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2013 23:03 (twelve years ago)

guys

Check out To the Limit: The Untold Story of the Eagles if you want a salacious read. It's on Google Books. Apparently Henley WAS a compulsive gambler in the eighties.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 23:09 (twelve years ago)

kick 'em when they're up!

are the Henley/Frey solo records the same formula the Eagles? A couple singles, then just half-assed dreck? I recall "Building the Perfect Beast" had a couple of legitimately okay non-single tracks on it, but the memory may cheat.

col, Monday, 14 October 2013 23:19 (twelve years ago)

Well, they're right on top of the death of disco here ... "we're just trying to reflect our TIMES, maaaaan"

Danelectro, Monday, 14 October 2013 23:24 (twelve years ago)

From day one, starting with the pre-release single of the title track, the Dallas FM stations played all of the album EXCEPT this track...

Danelectro, Monday, 14 October 2013 23:25 (twelve years ago)


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