A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

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What balls for Henley to sing this one all the while paying no mind to the actual beat and rhythm of the song. It's like he's strangling disco.

But say what you will, at least this one's over and out. Meisner would've never wrote something like this, but if he had, it would've gone on at least to the 5:49 mark.

pplains, Monday, 14 October 2013 13:31 (twelve years ago)

Does a band that recorded "One Of These Nights" have a right to strangle disco in the first place?

Lee626, Monday, 14 October 2013 13:33 (twelve years ago)

Pretty sure Glenn Frey's choked himself on more than one occasion.

pplains, Monday, 14 October 2013 13:34 (twelve years ago)

Sounds like one of Henley's more creative beats. Or, more accurately, this is Henley's one creative beat.

But yeah, total throwaway b-side material. Took them three years to come up with 42 minutes of music, and they still had to hijack a Joe joint and put this afterthought on.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 October 2013 13:37 (twelve years ago)

That picture makes me feel like I might have Stockholm syndrome.

Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 13:50 (twelve years ago)

It would explain Joe's expression.

pplains, Monday, 14 October 2013 13:53 (twelve years ago)

This is the day I have been waiting for since this thread started. I have thoughts about this song.

Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 15:21 (twelve years ago)

would have been so much cooler if they had blasted disco by making an awesome disco track. but that just wouldn't have been the way of the Eagle.

scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 15:42 (twelve years ago)

To show their hatred of disco, they record a terrible song. Progress!

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 15:44 (twelve years ago)

Frey and Henley going clean-shaven as a harbinger of the '80s; must've been shocking for fans.

col, Monday, 14 October 2013 15:46 (twelve years ago)

Disco Strangler is bizarre, poorly formed and lol. I enjoy it.

Also I will always hear it now as the accompaniment to Dave Thomas fisting a pullet.

play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Monday, 14 October 2013 15:56 (twelve years ago)

what an odd song

if i was prone to DaveQ/xhuxk flights of rock crit fancy I might speculate it's the Eagles trying to be Gang of Four but who are we kidding they had no idea who that was and it's just their own inherent clunkiness trying to be funky

but yeah Henley's vocal seems to have barged into the room from another song altogether...their misogyny now not even hidden behind faux mellow trips and just ugly

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 October 2013 15:59 (twelve years ago)

Wow, this song. I was looking forward to it, hoping we'd get more JOURNEY OF THE SORCERER style wtf-ery. Instead it's a whole new kind of wtf-ery without any of the endearing weirdness of JotS. Bleh. I bet Don's throat hurt after he was done choking out this song. I haven't even looked at the lyrics yet.

Shakey, I am v. interested in your thoughts.

carl agatha, Monday, 14 October 2013 16:01 (twelve years ago)

From the lyrics to the arrangement to the performance this song is a masterpiece of mixed emotions and conflicted intentions. It is not hard to imagine how the Eagles would be both threatened and dismissive of disco's cultural ascendancy at this point, and with this song they attempt to both cynically cash in on what they surely regarded as a fad, as well as incriminate it as some sort of deadly musical STD (the "melody without a cure"). The song is contemptuous of its audience, painting them as slatternly whores who don't know what's good for them, and while there are no direct intimations of the Eagles/narrator as spurned lover or wronged party, the condescending paternalism is blatant and dismissive ("fine, go get yourself killed by some polyester-coated greaser!").

Structurally, the song is a half-formed abortion of musical ideas. There are nods to the standard 4/4 disco throb in the kick/hi-hat pattern, but the snare hits are placed as if to deliberately and maliciously undermine the development of any actual disco groove. As such Henley ends up playing it more as a two-step, as if to say "oh, sure I know what disco IS, but it's so stupid I'm not gonna play it like it should be, I'm gonna do it like THIS instead" - the problem being that Henley doesn't have the chops to actually develop some interesting and technically showy divergence from the disco rhythm, instead he just throws in some off-beat snares every other bar, which sort of begs the question as to whether or not Henley actually COULD play a disco rhythm if he tried. Similarly, the two-note guitar riff is undeveloped and not particularly worthy as a hook, the Eagles presumably assuming that catchy riffs or chord shadings or anything melodically interesting would be required of something as pointless as a disco song. Henley's vocal, while committed to the anguished, ass-clenchingly strained delivery which he has so assiduously developed by this point in his career, wafts arhythmically above the rest of the arrangement, completely oblivious to the backing track.

Each element of the song perfectly encapsulates the band's position - we hate disco, but we will play it because it's popular, except not very well, because it's just some fucking disco garbage. Making it one of my favorite entries in the S/D: Songs that are about disco/have disco in the title but bear little to no resemblance to actual disco category. It also perfectly encapsulates everything I hate about the Eagles and why they were such a shitty band - the empty "professionalism", the condescending sexism, the failed pretensions, the drug-addled commercialism, the contemptuous, almost hateful vibe - it's all here in this song.

Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 16:09 (twelve years ago)

It also perfectly encapsulates everything I hate about the Eagles and why they were such a shitty band - the empty "professionalism", the condescending sexism, the failed pretensions, the drug-addled commercialism, the contemptuous, almost hateful vibe - it's all here in this song.

otm
they suuuuuuuuuuuuck
but mostly it's don henley's fault
the music itself doesn't scream CONDESCENSION, he does

Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 16:13 (twelve years ago)

This song is horrid. I was playing this record this morning and a minute or so into this song I had to go and turn it off because it was making me nauseous.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 October 2013 17:31 (twelve years ago)

the way Henley belches out that last "-angleHHHuhhuhhhr" may be the most hateful moment in the whole Eagles catalog, which is really an achievement.

sociopolitical statement btw: "Rome is burning, but that's alright"

col, Monday, 14 October 2013 17:41 (twelve years ago)

shakey really did have some thoughts on this.

i feel like the length of the song gives away their ambivalence. they thought it was a cute idea and then halfway through they just got tired of it and stopped.

scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 17:42 (twelve years ago)

and still put it on the album...

scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 17:43 (twelve years ago)

Shakey OTM.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 October 2013 17:44 (twelve years ago)

so man this is really gonna go down....Eagles never made a completely satisfying, solid album. crazy.

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:02 (twelve years ago)

man I feel really bad in my younger days ever equating these guys with Fleetwood Mac. wow. so remotely not on the same planet.

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:03 (twelve years ago)

Crazy that from this record, you've got songs like I Can't Tell You Why and In the City -- not to even mention the High Plains Drifter song that's coming up -- and THIS one, THIS one that tries to mete out a funky little beat has been sampled by exactly NO ONE.

pplains, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:06 (twelve years ago)

yeah the weird takeaway i'm getting from this whole experience has been that even when i really hated the eagles it turns out i was still overrating them.

balls, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:09 (twelve years ago)

For me, there is nothing more comforting in life than having my hate for something completely justified.

pplains, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:12 (twelve years ago)

i do think henley is 80% of what's wrong w/ this track though, if it had been a minute and a half curio and maybe been more new wave instead of disco it might have been a fun bit of filler.

balls, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:16 (twelve years ago)

oh one thing I forgot to mention in my previous post - often I have fantasized that there was some sort of "strangling dance" move meant to accompany this song, but the song sabotages its funk underpinnings so thoroughly that dancing to this song is not actually possible.

Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:23 (twelve years ago)

not to even mention the High Plains Drifter song that's coming up

Really curious as to what the Eags reaction was when they heard/heard about the Beasties sample.

Wait, I don't care, fuck the Eagles.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:29 (twelve years ago)

yeah the weird takeaway i'm getting from this whole experience has been that even when i really hated the eagles it turns out i was still overrating them.

― balls, Monday, October 14, 2013 2:09 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i feel a version of this--like, for all the talk of professionalism there are so many garbage performances across these records that some material that had potential gets totally submarined.

call all destroyer, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:34 (twelve years ago)

For me, there is nothing more comforting in life than having my hate for something completely justified.

― pplains, Monday, October 14, 2013 6:12 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hahaha it is like you held up a mirror to my soul.

carl agatha, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:38 (twelve years ago)

how many songs do we have to go after The Long Run though. that thought kinda chills me to the bone.

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:50 (twelve years ago)

do you feel your hair growing into a mushroom of tight poodly curls?

Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:54 (twelve years ago)

hahaha it is like you held up a mirror to my soul.

Were their lines on said mirror?

Let me just say I really love the three obvious throwaways on this album. Say what you will, but at least they're not boring as what they've dished out previously, and these tracks are genuinely weird in that way that makes you wonder how the biggest band in the world landed on this stuff. And besides, where else can you hear Don Henley sing the following through a clinched sphincter: "Look at me, baby, look at me. I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, I'm somebody."?

Btw Shakey, did you ever make good on this?

"Disco Strangler" is my new favorite cover request to yell at bands. Especially alt-country bands.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, May 3, 2005 12:08 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:03 (twelve years ago)

yeah but that's satire oh right

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:06 (twelve years ago)

haha y'know I haven't seen any alt-country bands lately, will report back when I have

Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:08 (twelve years ago)

i assumed that by virtue of growing up within proximity of a radio, and also by virtue of growing up within proximity of an awful lot of '70s and '80s rock, i would have known this song. the title was familiar to me; i figured i heard it a t least a few times back in the day and had forgotten about it. but now i'm pretty sure i've never actually heard this song before.

four things about it:

1. it's totally not a bad song. it isn't great by any stretch either, but there's something appealing about the raggedness of the guitars, and the simple chorus hook works. and as a huge fan of rolling stones disco, i'll happily check out anything that sounds like sub-rolling stones disco.

2. the rolling stones IS the school of disco this is entirely inspired by and derived from, yes?

3. the random hard-left and hard-right panning of the hi-hat is giving me headaches.

4. this is about the 27th song that's come up on this thread that i thought could be made into a warren zevon song with just a little editing here or there. i don't think you'd have to edit this one at all though. just switch vocalists, add waddy wachtel's name to the credits (but don't actually change the part), and done.

open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:26 (twelve years ago)

the Stones have understood R&B since 1962.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:27 (twelve years ago)

the Eagles have understood R&B since never

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:27 (twelve years ago)

well that's what i mean by the "sub" in "sub-rolling stones disco." but that said, there's been at least a few songs on this thread that suggest the eagles, while not exactly the stones, do know a thing or two about r&b.

open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:29 (twelve years ago)

Glenn Frey ordered sheet music for Philly Soul songs so he could learn them!

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:30 (twelve years ago)

They like R&B. They don't get R&B.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:31 (twelve years ago)

Don: Well, yeah.

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:31 (twelve years ago)

yeah what's mildly disappointing about this is that the eagles have been fairly engaged w/ r&b and even disco to this point (ahead of their peers even w/ 'one of these nights'), they weren't tom petty.

balls, Monday, 14 October 2013 19:33 (twelve years ago)

They gambled: they thought they could write songs that compensated for their shitty rhythm section.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:36 (twelve years ago)

http://youtu.be/o5UkuNWSvas

pplains, Monday, 14 October 2013 19:42 (twelve years ago)

i think this thread proves beyond a doubt that we should just gather all the copies of the individual eagles albums and burn them, bonfire style

there's no reason for anything of the eagles to exist except their greatest hits

and even *that* is dangerous, because it lets people think there's undiscovered gems out there and we can tell the world categorically NO SIR, THERE ARE NOT

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 October 2013 20:25 (twelve years ago)

that's the thing right there. even with the non-hits that weren't terrible, i could name a dozen other bands that did it better. i mean there are plenty of non-hit zz top, allman bros, lynyrd skynyrd, poco, etc, etc, etc songs that are just so much better quality-wise. and funkier. and played better and just more fun to listen to. there are pure prairie league songs that are better than the marginally ok eagles non-hits!

scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 20:43 (twelve years ago)

and I think of my experience digging into the Rolling Stones catalog and finding all kinds of songs that could have formed their own non-hits compilation, like how the songs you hear on the radio are just the tip of the iceberg (at least for me personally)

and the eagles is like, how the fuck did they manage to have so many hits when they couldn't a) write a whole album that you could listen to start to finish and b) their non-hit material is SO bland/bad or downright offensive

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 October 2013 20:45 (twelve years ago)

it's like they are scientists who don't keep notes and just keep fucking up the same experiments over and over until poof it works and then they can't remember how they did it becuase they weren't paying attention so they start from scratch

every...single...time

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 October 2013 20:47 (twelve years ago)

i just think they got a lot of help! in the studio and from other musicians/songwriters. they would have moved back home in the early 70's if they hadn't hooked up with the dudes they hooked up with.

scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 20:49 (twelve years ago)


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