Wow, this is truly excellent. Very good song, well-developed through the various changes; nice understated arrangement, well played Frey; good playing throughout, the odd leaden Henley drop quite forgiveable in context; and the smoothest of production, nice doubling in places to give more texture without making the track too busy. Great vocal of course. I can imagine being in a vaguely noirish lounge while this plays, maybe half-a-dozen lone guys and a sympathetic broad serving drinks; would be a good night.
No idea that this was coming but that's a very promising start to the album (though we've heard that before).
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 October 2013 17:32 (twelve years ago)
Feelin the keyboard on this one
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 October 2013 17:51 (twelve years ago)
A stone classic. Like many here, I didn't know this was the Eagles for the longest time. I used to think it was some one-hit Female artist like, I dunno, Karla Bonoff or somebody. But no, it's Tim B's big moment. It's kind of amusing that in the interviews Frey's all like "we kept trying to find a good song for Randy" and then they actively strike gold w/Tim right out the gate. In the context of this album it feels like an odd choice for track two. It would fit better at the end of side 1 or (better still) closing the album. But we got some Henley/Frey shitwhiches on that real estate.
TBS Poco jam: http://youtu.be/iF1j8Y0zw6w
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 12 October 2013 18:48 (twelve years ago)
I was reading about TBS and he's a studio backing vocals champ. He sang on Toto's Africa and Just Remember I Love You by Firefall, which is another song I lovelovelove.
Did not know this before but feel like a better person knowing it now!
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Saturday, 12 October 2013 19:58 (twelve years ago)
TBS wrote Keep On Tryin *and* sang on Africa?
awesome
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:00 (twelve years ago)
Joe Walsh playing the synths on this one.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:02 (twelve years ago)
Schmitt's journeyman/company man qualities are exactly why I don't like "I Can't Tell You Why" as much as most of you. He sounds pallid and blank.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:04 (twelve years ago)
Schmit toured with Jimmy Buffett, in 1983, 1984, and 1985 as a member of the Coral Reefer Band, and coined the term "Parrotheads" to describe Buffett's fans.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:07 (twelve years ago)
xpost you sound, etc
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:08 (twelve years ago)
Schmitt sings on half of Gene Clark's No Other!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:10 (twelve years ago)
otm. i'd like to hear randy sing this one.
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:31 (twelve years ago)
jesus you guys we were so close to consensus! that might be as close as we ever come...
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:42 (twelve years ago)
as close to positive consensus
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:50 (twelve years ago)
Well, yeah
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:53 (twelve years ago)
i thought "one of these nights" was the positive consensus pick!
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:53 (twelve years ago)
yeah that one too. though there were still probably a couple of nay votes.
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:54 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, fuck that song. Never liked it.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:54 (twelve years ago)
I didn't ride for OoTN either.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 12 October 2013 21:04 (twelve years ago)
buncha contrarians
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 October 2013 21:14 (twelve years ago)
For me, it just has so many elements of what I hate about the Eagles: flumpfy sound, stiff drumming, forced/awkward ad-libs ("we're gonna find out, pretty mama").
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 October 2013 21:49 (twelve years ago)
(I guess "I Can't Tell You Why" has flumpfy sound too, but in that context, it works. Flumpf does not work when you're trying to rock out.)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 October 2013 21:50 (twelve years ago)
wait, i can't remember anyone saying they HATED "hotel california" the song. or maybe i'm forgetting. everyone likes the guitars on it anyway.
tarfumes, got a sealed copy of this the other day. debating whether i should put it online or keep it. i've never actually heard it!
http://www.discogs.com/Joe-McPhee-Tenor/release/1796127
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 23:23 (twelve years ago)
Do you know Roatario Records slot? My friend runs it he's put out some records by him in recent years
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 October 2013 04:13 (twelve years ago)
Had no idea "Tell Me What You Dream" was T.B. Schmit. Tim gets himself everywhere!
― Lee626, Sunday, 13 October 2013 09:44 (twelve years ago)
"In The City"
http://www.weiunderpar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/the-warriors.jpg
http://youtu.be/2SrXi1SsFgg
― scott seward, Sunday, 13 October 2013 11:58 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfLV_hSj_uE
― scott seward, Sunday, 13 October 2013 12:03 (twelve years ago)
Walsh's vocal annoys me; he strains.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 October 2013 12:09 (twelve years ago)
Love it
Is this different than the version in the Warriors that is billed as a solo Walsh track? Sounds the same
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:32 (twelve years ago)
different recording but the arrangement is the same, walsh sounds more beat down in the original to me and the little production details tend to be more buried
― balls, Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:47 (twelve years ago)
I don't like this. It reaches a point where you think it must change or stop, but it just goes on and on; like a bowling ball on an infinite alley.
But Joe sounds a lot like Neil Young I reckon. Roughen up the guitars, make the solo muddier but more epic, have it lurch in tempo at least once, and it could be a Neil song I don't like instead.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:49 (twelve years ago)
lol apparently henley and frey liked the original and decided 'that should be an eagles record' so they got walsh to rerecord it w/ them w/o really changing anything. it's not only on the long run but also apparently on hell freezes over. despite this nobody thinks of this as an 'eagles' song. warriors > eagles.
― balls, Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:52 (twelve years ago)
i like this bcz joe
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 October 2013 17:02 (twelve years ago)
o wow the desmond child track on the soundtrack is some bad bruce. always figured the springsteenisms in bon jovi came from growing up in jersey but maybe there was an additional vector. anyhow pplains before you pipe up about how you don't think 'in the city' really works at the end of the warriors (strong disagreement here obv) give this thing a listen and imagine michael beck on that beach while this plays: http://youtu.be/G9_kFDYW9EE
― balls, Sunday, 13 October 2013 17:12 (twelve years ago)
haha, ok, compared to that, they could've played space age whiz kids at the end of the warriors and it wouldn't be worse than that.
― pplains, Sunday, 13 October 2013 17:24 (twelve years ago)
i'm gonna admit that i am not 100% sure i knew that this was the eagles before today
― Untt (La Lechera), Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:00 (twelve years ago)
i did know that i didn't like it
i think 90% of me liking it is the Warriors association, the other 10% is just because Frey/Henley didn't write it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:03 (twelve years ago)
Strongest opening to an Eagles album yet. Pretty sure it's downhill from here....
Like "Desperado", this is a well-known non-single/non-hit
― Lee626, Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:16 (twelve years ago)
I just watched that final scene of the Warriors again. COME ON.
― pplains, Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:35 (twelve years ago)
Has nothing to do with the rest of this thread, but a buddy of mine instagrammed a pic of him and Michael Beck last week. Looks pretty much exactly the same.
― pplains, Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:38 (twelve years ago)
apparently reagan loved the warriors and called up michael beck after screening it at camp david to tell him so
― balls, Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:42 (twelve years ago)
yet in his diary he complained how 9 to 5 had disappointed him. Instead of watching the girls get drunk we get a scene in which they get high on pot.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:50 (twelve years ago)
not a fan of star trek III iirc
― balls, Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:52 (twelve years ago)
"In The City": Like This. Easily the better of his two initial Eagles spotlights (but not as good as the brand new Eagles-esque solo track he'd have in a movie the next year and share on Live). Some old problems arise as the coda should have been faded earlier.
Crowe w/the one Eagle who didn't get a spot on the FTARH soundtrack:
IN THE CITYGLENN: Of all the songs we were considering for the album, I always loved this one of Joe’s. An earlier solo version had been in the movie The Warriors, but it wasn’t that widely known. I always liked the song and thought it could have been an Eagles record, and so we decided to make it one.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 13 October 2013 19:30 (twelve years ago)
in the wild: i saw tarfumes the escape goat today and he kept reminding me in public that i listen to the eagles every day. also, he has never seen the warriors. he's really gotta get on that.
― scott seward, Sunday, 13 October 2013 21:48 (twelve years ago)
wtf tarfumes
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 October 2013 21:55 (twelve years ago)
Were ... people listening?
A reminder that ILM is not as real life: I was trying to explain this whole Eagles project to a friend the other night: what I get out of it, how interesting it was to listen to the details, to work out exactly why they aren't that great, etc. The reminiscence I got in return was about how an ex-girlfriend's dad had really loved the Eagles, and he remembered going to her house and hearing them there, and he didn't know that much of their stuff but there was one song he did like ... Hello California, that one.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 October 2013 21:56 (twelve years ago)
lool
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 October 2013 21:56 (twelve years ago)
hello californiais it me you're looking for
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 October 2013 21:57 (twelve years ago)
he's been listening to the eagles every day too iirc?! also over the edge is better for teens wilding out to 70s rock music imo
― Untt (La Lechera), Sunday, 13 October 2013 21:59 (twelve years ago)