Why does anyone like the Fall?

Code Selfish is an essential album in full.

Definitely. Get the two 90s comps, "A Past Gone Mad" and "A World Bewitched" to hear the best stuff.

There are a lot of shitty misbegotten fall comps out there but A World Bewitched is totally awesome.

Shift-Work and Code Selfish are both completely amazing from start to finish, so get those. Infotainment Scan is pretty damn good too.

I was gonna say infotainment prob the 2nd best in that time span. Like Frenz exp though there is something abt the sound if it that makes it fail to stick to my ribs. Shift work is one if those cherry pick the best few tracks fall albums for me.

There's a thread on here where suggestions are made for a "Best of the 90s" and "Best of the 2000s" compilations are bandied about. I took those and ran with them, very helpful and I listen to them more often than the amazing-but-well-worn 70s and 80s stuff.

mark e smith - portrait of the artist as a consumer

http://retromaniafootnotes.blogspot.co.il/2012/05/800x600-normal-0-false-false-false-en_5119.html

Great stuff from the young MES

there was a similar one in the 90s for Melody Maker and he mentions 2 Unlimited's "No Limits" as one of his favourite tracks.

I can't remember where I stowed all my sweaters! It's a touch nippy out there this morning.

Pumpkin spice lattes are spoil overrated.

I'm all about MES enjoying watching "Bluey" (a 1970s Australian cop show about a rather large detective) on the telly.

did not know this was out!

http://thequietus.com/articles/14119-the-fall-remainderer-review

>>>in a way that evoked the shock of first hearing ‘Reformation’, perhaps The Fall’s best song, back in 2006<<

Whaaaaaat.

New EP sounds well-recorded on first listen. The Gene Vincent medley ain't too hot though.

I dearly love The Fall but does everything they release need to be overhyped? The new EP is ok with a couple of excellent tracks but, c'mon, it's no Slates.

I've been really enjoying it (in a sort of sloppy bleary mood tho). media coverage often seems to come from "fall-as-thing" rather than the content of the music, so you get this absurd fracture between grand cultural institution language heaped on a sketchy half-assed and even at best only esoteric ally rewarding mess.

admission: when I play my early/late fall typology game - Re-Mit=Slates.

lol @ reformation quote.

Review makes it sound squarely like rampant me-bait Fall, the fact that the reviewer mentions 2 of ny top 5 Fall songs does help

Sorry shit post am sitting in North Upper at The Valley watching our boys get beat by Detby

1 minute into Mister Rode and it's clearly the greatest thing ever

^
it seems, on first two listens, to be about a newly formed experimental or supernatural creature exuberantly delighting in the fact it can have a face and a name, albeit translucent. Standout lyric - "i got a look, translucent face - i mirror dead souls every day." superb all round. Sorry about the result.

rest of the EP is ok and all, good moments, last track especially, but nothing really stands alongside the mighty mister rode

& thanks - better times will come, possibly in lower strata

I agree with your picks, Imago - "Mister Rode" jumps out at you. Honestly, I'm quite content getting a couple of great tracks and ignoring the rest.

Hopefully this will continue with every Fall release until the untimely death of MES.

hush yr mouth

Mister Rode is fucking amazing, feels like a fundamental Fall song

Kinda think that to be an all-time greatest candidate it maybe needs to bring the main refrain back after that titanic closing build but cmon man you've had nearly 8 minutes of the song, don't get greedy

post-YFOC material that belongs in 'the canon', discuss

I'd have:

Taking Off
Monocard
No Respects Rev.
Jetplane
Mister Rode

anyone wanna suggest more? I'm probably underrating Re-Mit there tbh

Not much gra for post-YFOC stuff tbh. I'll check out his Mister Rode song.

I would add "The Remainderer" and "Loadstones" but that's a pretty solid list, especially "Jetplane" imo.

Ya Loadstones was the one I felt hardest leaving out, it can come. My other fave track off Remainderer was Touchy Pad, but it's a good EP

I need to have a go at Re-Mit once and for all and soon

aside from the Laptop Dog 7" I've been avoiding these releases, having a listen now

OK on this new EP I liked "Amorator!" and "Rememberance R" more than the tracks y'all are into, Smith's unintelligibly mushmouthed bellowing is the main stumbling block here imo. They have a snappy, confident feel and are a bit more restrained which allows Smith to work his territory rather than compete for it in the mix.

It's about time we got a real version of "Race With The Devil", it has a long history w/the band and John Peel. Wait, I think this is the same live version recorded on Peel's birthday, never mind. "Say Mama" is a perfectly fine Fall-as-rockabilly move

The same MES bellowing mars the last track, which could have been really cool.

My post-YFOC/2010 picks:
Taking Off
Nate Will Not Return
Greenway
I've Seen Them Come
Age Of Chang
Sir William Wray
Hittite Man
Victrola Time
Mister Rode
Blow Up Muscles (a solo MES track from a compilation)

Agree with most of these selections. I really love "Kinder Of Spine" off Re-Mit too.

I listened to The Unutterable today and found myself wishing that they could have mined that lush/heady well-produced sound for at least one more album. "Cyber Insekt" is still an all-time favorite.

i listened to The Unutterable yesterday, it's one of the best albums of the 2000s and absolutely one of The Fall's best records, fucking astounding work. ditch 'serum' & 'das katerer' for being self-remixes and 'pumpkin soup' for being too, too much & it's also practically faultless

I love that William Blake song and two librans, both quite perfect.

yep

amazing that nobody had written 'two librans' before, it feels like a song that had to be written

that riff i mean

"Alan Brazil and Hatton on about 'discipline for all'" - this his always felt like a lyric for the ages.

*has

you can just see mark e smith boggling at the radio, maybe giving it a kick

New radio documentary from 6music -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b052r0l5

(heard the 2nd half while working yesterday, didn't seem great)

Brix Smith & Ex The Fall Members Bring You…

/// BRIX SMITH AND THE EXTRICATED ///

Brix and the Extricated are comprised of ex-members of The Fall’s halcyon period. They are the writers behind some of the most beloved songs of The Fall canon. The group played a rapturously received stage debut December 13th 2014 in Manchester.

They reclaimed their music, with a propulsive punk vitality and breathed new life into the old favourites. The crowd was in awe – this wasn’t some tribute band – they “own” those songs and reinvented them. Furthermore, the band has explosive new material they are test-driving live and to record.

Brix and The Extricated marks the first return to music since 1996 for Brix Smith-Start, former wife and songwriting partner of The Fall’s Mark E. Smith.

The live show is astounding, and Brix’s stage presence isn’t a continuation of where she left off so much as a re-birth --- a commanding and riveting rock – roll front-person, her vocals deservedly to the fore, her lead guitar playing as raw and primal as before.

Twenty-year Fall lynchpin bassist Steve Hanley is on bass and making his first forays since the 90s. His brother Paul Hanley returns on drums, and the band is rounded out by ex FALL guitaristsSteve Trafford and Jason Brown.

The universal question after the first gig was, “Why didn’t this happen sooner?”

FAN FOOTAGE: ‘CRUISERS CREEK” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxfmeUsv4HM

- i bet MES is apoplectic.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B99gA19IYAAuwvz.png

No Scanlon, no dice.

"No Scanlon" is slightly less damaging than "No Hanley" but yeah Steve Trafford kind of sticks out like a sore thumb on that lineup.

I'm glad they are doing this but I'd rather Brix write new tunes for these guys, adult net style

i bet MES is apoplectic.

Well, he did call them "fucking sub-human"...

http://thefall.org/news/pics/2015-01_Mojo.jpg

psyched about the Live-Evil influence on upcoming Fall stuff

(actually I can hear this in some of the things this lineup has already done, now that I think of it)