Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

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Also, hope Egypt is treating you well. Maybe we'll cross paths in VA sometime.

grandavis, Friday, 11 October 2013 17:37 (twelve years ago)

I am in ATL/Georgia next month and can send stuff on domestic way. But ordering overseas in Europe still isn't that expensive than the other way around :P.
And since Neal already drew the connection, I released 2 new things last week:
Wes Tirey - Singer Songwriter and at least two lengthy guitar instrumentals (When you eyes see the valley and On Winter...)
http://dyingforbadmusic.com/dfbm19-wes-tirey-i-stood-among-trees.phtml

and Sean Proper from Florida with guitar only stuff: http://dyingforbadmusic.com/dfbm18-sean-proper-design-engine.phtml
read also the interview where he made some interesting statements about playing this kind of music on the sunny side of life
http://dyingforbadmusic.com/blog/post/2013/09/sean-proper-interview.html
And the interview with Matt/Neal/Rag Lore is pretty interesting too:
http://dyingforbadmusic.com/blog/post/2013/02/the-poor-farm-rag-lore-of-matthew-russell-boteilho-interview.html

(Sorry for the advertising, but... it's somehow related so forgive me :)

DFBM (Nikolaus Höhle), Friday, 11 October 2013 18:27 (twelve years ago)

I think I messed up that former youtube clip of Ralph Johnson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fclQmN7VOVQ

Lets see if it works.

Neal Cassady, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:34 (twelve years ago)

listening to the Ragtime Ralph Vol 4....damn too bad this never came out, really great stuff....

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:01 (twelve years ago)

I had Daniel Bachman and Ryley Walker over here in the Ore Mountains and it was absolutely stunning to see them play and listen to their music live.

Ryley's set is up on bandcamp now. Daniel's recording will follow.

https://f0.bcbits.com/img/a0380690692_2.jpg
Ryley Walker - The Bootleg – Live at Galerie Rademann, Schwarzenberg / GER, 15​-​Oct​-​2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFG2NHVOu4w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDHN6zdkVl4

DFBM (Nikolaus Höhle), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:01 (twelve years ago)

nice! sounds like he's got the jansch/renbourn/graham style down.

tylerw, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:34 (twelve years ago)

wow he's great....he even looks like someone from 1971!

but it's cool, i mentioned thousands of posts ago, i really like the graham/jansch school as much as the takoma school but there just seems to be more people mining the takoma thing nowadays.

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:45 (twelve years ago)

yeah, you checked out the new nathan salsburg album yet? definitely more of a UK folk thing happening there.

tylerw, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:53 (twelve years ago)

yeah i really need to check that out....i like that Avos record a lot, though he seems like one of those guys that's gonna end up verging into something too slick maybe? i don't know how this one is.

went to an open mic night last night. first time i'd played out with fingerpicks. showed up late and it was a pretty long list but the guy let me get on for one song right at the end. played the song pretty well and a bunch of older dudes came up to me after and said they liked it and asked if it was mine or a cover. it was in open C and a bunch of them asked what tuning it was in. so seemed to go over well which felt good and definitely good to get over the fear of playing with fingerpicks.

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:56 (twelve years ago)

oh i forgot to make a zip and upload that Bill Holt thing tyler i'll try to do that today.

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:56 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, Ryley can really play, interested to see where he takes that sound. Still feel like the Salsburg is a little airless/slick as well, but I also need to spend more time with it. Really I am imagining that I will dig it more over time, but I definitely lean towards a looser feel these days.

grandavis, Friday, 18 October 2013 15:58 (twelve years ago)

UMS, glad those picks are working for you. I may give them a shot again sometime, and certainly will if I start leaning on the acoustic more, but I just found it so hard to get a feel for them. I could not get any kind of touch going, it just felt so awkward.

grandavis, Friday, 18 October 2013 15:59 (twelve years ago)

getting used to them just sucks, no two ways about it. but i just keep plugging away and it sucks a little less each time i play.

though i've been doing A/B comparison on recording something with fingers and picks and it definitely helps you get a clear/clean recording sound and last night at the coffee shop it really cut through a lot better.

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 16:04 (twelve years ago)

Oh I am sure. I have been playing more finger-style(ish) stuff on my electric, and even there with amplification I can see at times that I am getting very little projection, which is cool if things are very quiet, but I could see being able to play the same figures/patterns with that projection being pretty cool. I'll get back on the train at some point. Part of it might have been the thumb-pick I was using, which is just a plastic one that seemed way too stiff, but I haven't tried any other kinds.

grandavis, Friday, 18 October 2013 16:17 (twelve years ago)

something fun - a "bootleg" mix chris forsyth puth together for aquarium drunkard: http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2013/10/21/diversions-chris-forsyth-bootleg-mix - Tetuzi Akiyama, Fahey, The Dead, Television, others...

tylerw, Monday, 21 October 2013 19:38 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, saw that posted earlier today, excited to trawl through those clips etc. Haven't checked out much Akiyama, but if Chris's opinion of him is anything to go on seems like I need to dig in.

grandavis, Monday, 21 October 2013 20:18 (twelve years ago)

the john martyn 91 clip seems beamed in from some alternate reality.

tylerw, Monday, 21 October 2013 20:25 (twelve years ago)

Not there yet, trying to get through a bunch of stuff today, but yeah that one looked like it was gonna be something else.

grandavis, Monday, 21 October 2013 20:28 (twelve years ago)

does anyone in this thread dig the stuff Zachary Hay does? he keeps putting out records under different names, starting with Bronze Horse, then the Dove Azima, and now Green Glass. More outside/avant-garde in feel than a lot of what is on this thread, but he delves into the 'americana' sound as well from time to time. i really like his stuff, personally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W4U_0t25Eg&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL5FFB4988942C174C

ian, Monday, 21 October 2013 20:43 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdByFSStRNw

ian, Monday, 21 October 2013 20:44 (twelve years ago)

Some of it was posted above, and yeah, I dug it. I said something silly like it sounded like early Sonic Youth going acoustic, but still, it was cool. As I dig through the pile I will listen to these clips you've posted. Somebody else cool was repping for this guy recently too, but my mind is to overloaded to remember who right now.

grandavis, Monday, 21 October 2013 20:49 (twelve years ago)

the Ragtime Ralph - Vol. 4 linked to upthread has really stuck with me...shame Takoma never ended up putting it out, I think it's as good as anything the label released.

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 October 2013 23:32 (twelve years ago)

lost blues was my fav ragtime ralph i think, but there's so much. even tho he's a bit narrow as a player he does some stuff so well & effortlessly, hard not to love him

was away for the alert, but quite like the tashi dorji. the prepared stuff is hard to well, worth keeping an eye on.

listening to blind willie johnson as you have to from time to time. god moves on the water was always my fav, fizzing & popping. such an incredible player.

ogmor, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 00:09 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, I definitely like that Zachary Hay stuff, it has a very cool feel to it. He gets some almost piano-like hits from his strings at times. Ian, what's your favorite Hay record/project (if using a different name counts as a project).

Ogmor, glad you checked out that Dorji. I think he has a pretty good mix of prepared/extended technique stuff juxtaposed against some slightly more straightforward musicality/playing, which as you state is hard to do well. Definitely interested to see where he takes it.

grandavis, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:09 (twelve years ago)

If anyone is so inclined, here is the latest live set from my duo Grand Banks:

https://grand-banks.bandcamp.com/album/grand-banks-live-10-18-2013

Slow-burning improv stuff for the most part, but there is some "guitar as guitar" playing in there. Decent fall/lead-up to Halloween kinda music if you are looking for some instrumental jams to add to the listening pile.

grandavis, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:29 (twelve years ago)

Anyone want to come along? No limit on seat reservations:

http://www.puffinculturalforum.org/events/event/282-william-tyler.html

Evan, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:30 (twelve years ago)

If I lived up that way I would be there. Still never seen W. Tyler live.

grandavis, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:40 (twelve years ago)

I'm pretty excited! I love seeing favorite musicians in more-relaxed-than-typical-venue settings, too.

Evan, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:49 (twelve years ago)

Nice Aquarium Drunkard write-up of the new Chris Forsyth record by Tyler, with a full 12 minute track to stream. There really is just some fantastic playing all over this record:

http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2013/10/22/chris-forsyth-solar-motel/

grandavis, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 15:05 (twelve years ago)

Agree on the relaxed venue thing too. It really makes a difference seeing the type of stuff this thread mainly focusses on in the right kind of room.

grandavis, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 15:06 (twelve years ago)

oh lord pac this Solar Motel is so great

can't wait for this

dream tour: Rangda/Solar Motel

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:07 (twelve years ago)

yeah i would quit my job an just follow that bill around like a deadhead. my review of solar motel might be sliiiiightly over the top, but not too much. i really love it -- and wish there were more records like it!

tylerw, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:15 (twelve years ago)

i like how at first it feels like a way more mellow/desert Television and by the end it's way more crazy than Television

it also has it's own character that feels very distinct from Television, Rangda came to mind just because it feels like rock musicians playing together with an almost jazz exploratory vibe within a defined style and structure

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:21 (twelve years ago)

yeah, i've got some half-baked theory that so many great guitarists have gotten waylaid by trying to be "songwriters" over the years, instead of playing to their strengths and yeah, doing more "jazz exploratory" kinds of things. like, what if eric clapton was never convinced to become a singer-songwriter and just started doing awesome guitar instrumental albums in 1968. [i guess this is the closest thing to what I'm thinking of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_the_Game]

tylerw, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:27 (twelve years ago)

i guess Jeff Beck kinda took that route, at least for a while, but he's the only big one I can really think of.*

*outside of guitar mag dudes like allen holdsworth who no one actually ever cared about

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:30 (twelve years ago)

Might add Cian Nugent & The Cosmos based on the album tracks I have heard. Forsyth's Solar Motel Band & The Cosmos would hit almost every aspect of what I like about the electric guitar in one night. Throw Rangda on that bill as well and hell, it would cave my head in.

grandavis, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:30 (twelve years ago)

But yeah, a lot of folks should have taken the advice "shut up and play your guitar".

grandavis, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:31 (twelve years ago)

right, it's a slippery slope into weird chopsy guitar mag stuff.
and yeah, the nugent record is solar motel's main competition for awesome guitar workout record of the year. though it's fairly different in tone/approach, i think.

tylerw, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:32 (twelve years ago)

I haven't heard the whole thing, but yeah it seems like it will be different from Forsyth's in lots of ways, so maybe a good compliment live.

grandavis, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:37 (twelve years ago)

I think the way Forsyth incorporates healthy doses of skronky, unhinged, and downright noisy moments to his relatively structured compositions keeps the "chopsy guitar mag" vibes away, he has a good balance. He obviously can play like crazy, but seems to avoid playing any "licks" that sound TOO studied/show-offy.

grandavis, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:42 (twelve years ago)

i kind of think of him as verlaine & lloyd in one brain

tylerw, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:44 (twelve years ago)

This just in from the Tompkins Square list

http://ih.constantcontact.com/fs106/1101382621048/img/129.jpg

NPR has premiered Ryley Walker's debut single, "The West Wind."

"With the charming swagger of jazz-folk troubadour Tim Buckley and the resonant, full picking style of Bert Jansch, "The West Wind" comes from Walker's first widely available release, a three-song 12". With acoustic guitar in hand and a voice like browned butter, Walker swings and sways in a lush string-and-piano arrangement right out of Buckley's Starsailor; it slowly picks up to a swirling gallop without bucking the rhythm." - NPR Music

Ryley is a 24 year-old singer/songwriter and guitarist from Chicago. Having kicked around Chicago's experimental free/noise music scene for several years, Ryley recently turned to a folk-rock sound inspired by some of his heroes, among them Tim Hardin, Tim Buckley, and Bert Jansch. The result is a poised and accomplished debut album, recorded in Chicago by Cooper Crain (guitarist/keyboardist in Cave). The album will be released by Tompkins Square in April 2014.

A 3 song 12" EP featuring "The West Wind" and two non-LP B sides (including one instrumental duet with Daniel Bachman) will be released on Nov 29th (Black Friday) on Tompkins Square. Sleeve design by Plastic Crimewave.

The first single, "The West Wind," is out today and available on every digital service worldwide.

Listen via NPR http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2013/10/15/230815583/vikings-choice-acoustic-swagger-exists-and-ryley-walker-has-it

dow, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 19:21 (twelve years ago)

haha ok if we need a pt. 2 to this thread it's going to be called Acoustic Swagger Exists, And ILX Has It

sounds great

like the full band arrangement, reminds me of Shirley Collins & the Albion Band

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 20:13 (twelve years ago)

re: Zachary Hay -- I just got the Green Glass record a few days ago, so I haven't listened to it tons of times yet, but right now I'm leaning toward that one!

ian, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 01:00 (twelve years ago)

Cool, thanks Ian.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 14:00 (twelve years ago)

Dig that Solar Motel clip, excited for the record, though I could live with out some of the percussion choices (cowbell)

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:44 (twelve years ago)

ha yeah, that might be the one thing i'd change about it - maybe just mix it slightly lower.
this is relevant to this thread: http://frontpsych.com/new-american-primitivism/

tylerw, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:47 (twelve years ago)

This is getting bumped in every feed/online resource of mine. I imagine that this is one of many of these types of lists still to come. Glad it went "somewhat" broad (cool to see Metzger put officially in the mix) and I am all for exposure for most of these folks, but it didn't have a thing on this here thread. I wonder what the typical audience is for that site, had never seen it until everyone I know who cares about this stuff started pointing to this list.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:06 (twelve years ago)

i'd never heard of that site before either... there will probably be a bunch of 2013 year of the fahey roundups. but yeah, this thread is obviously the place to be!

tylerw, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:18 (twelve years ago)

I hope that in future instalments Marisa Anderson gets more shouts, both for the obvious reason of diversifying the mix a bit but also because damn her records are good. I really like the feel of her stuff and it is cool that she improvises it all, which is an interesting departure from a lot of these folks as well.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:21 (twelve years ago)


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