two months after HC came came out, rumours came out.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:26 (twelve years ago)
and a few months before, songs in the key of life came out. which may be a better analog to rumours and aja.
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:38 (twelve years ago)
This is my brain problem, apparently, but I like this song.
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:43 (twelve years ago)
Hey now, I'm a 'fucking' jr college professor' and I'm not only smarter than Don Henley, but I play the drums with more feeling than he does. I'm glad others are finally feeling the real burn of the Eagles -- being condescended to by someone stupid!! It's the worst. They remain the worst.
― Untt (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:06 (twelve years ago)
La Lechera - i sincerely did not mean to lump professors in with Don. please accept my apoligies. that's a horrible thing to do actually now that i think of it. :(
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:19 (twelve years ago)
I'm not offended, but we do get a bum rap. No harm done!
― Untt (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:46 (twelve years ago)
You know who else got a bum rap? The red man.
― pplains, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:59 (twelve years ago)
This changed Don's life: http://youtu.be/j7OHG7tHrNM
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 20:54 (twelve years ago)
I am going to be so intrigued to learn what you guys think of the cocaine psychosis called the Long Run. There are two songs in particular, deep —and deeply hypocritical— cuts, that I will be really surprised if many of you guys hate it like you hate most of their shit…
what about eagles Live?
― veronica moser, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:12 (twelve years ago)
I'm gonna risk becoming a figure of fun on ilx and go on record that I actually like the final verse. "Call anywhere paradise and kiss it goodbye" is kind of sharp IMO.
Of course, the song as a whole is loaded with groaners. But at least it feels felt in comparison with most Henley.
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:13 (twelve years ago)
Xpost I think we should at least cover the exclusives on Live: two solo Walsh numbers and "Seven Bridges Road".
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:16 (twelve years ago)
the latter-day live album has four studio tracks i think? will definitely cover those. if there is studio stuff on the first live album than yeah otherwise i might have to put my foot down...
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:52 (twelve years ago)
Is the plan to head through all of the "unplugged" versions? Keep in mind that the days are getting darker sooner.
― pplains, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:53 (twelve years ago)
jesus they didn't have an unplugged album did they? no, i just wanted to do all the studio stuff. to hell with any live stuff. it would kill us all.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:56 (twelve years ago)
yeah i agree - only studio stuff
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:57 (twelve years ago)
Know what's worse than hearing "Hotel California" so many times that you begin to actively hate it?
Hearing the unplugged version even more.
― pplains, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:00 (twelve years ago)
man i'm so exhausted by the eagles and i know the true challenges have only begun.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:01 (twelve years ago)
They're really pushing the boundaries of what studio can do atm, seems a shame to sully it with inferior live stuff.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:01 (twelve years ago)
The live album wasn't that 'live' if you catch my drift...
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:02 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, especially because the paradise referred to in that stanza is heaven, so it's quite a decent gag about gentrification in the afterlife.. or alternatively a cogent point about how religious ideas are simply a reflection of social culture.
Otm about groaners tho
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:05 (twelve years ago)
Also: if we do the three bait tracks on the '80 album, that puts three more days in before we get to "Get Over It".
Think about it.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:07 (twelve years ago)
hate will keep us alive
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:10 (twelve years ago)
wow. i'm reasonably sure i've never heard "the last resort" until five minutes ago. there's the beginning of a song there, sort of, but it goes terribly awry before they get to the end of the first verse.
i totally get how a song as poorly written and executed as this could wind up on an early album by any number of major bands -- there's plenty worse out there -- but i'm genuinely curious as to how a song like this could wind up on their signature album, on the album they made at the peak of their career. was there no one in the studio that day who could raise their hand and suggest another chord here or another lick there? was there no one who could hide in a corner and come up with a "journey of the sorceror" or something as a replacement while everyone else was eating lunch or screwing drunken teenagers? had they lost j.d. souther's number?
do people who own this album even today know that it's there? i mean no one actually gets all the way to track nine, do they?
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:11 (twelve years ago)
tomorrow: my favorite Eagles song!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:16 (twelve years ago)
yeah that's the thing - i mean they were part of that whole so-cal/soft/country rock/geffen axis so it's like goddamn they had access & the cash to get songs from some of the most killer pro songwriters.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:17 (twelve years ago)
"We started the song early in the record, and Don finished seven months later."
i'd like to think that it actually took him seven months to record the song.
it feels like it takes seven months to listen to it anyway.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:17 (twelve years ago)
"tomorrow: my favorite Eagles song!"
everyone loves christmas songs!
they had access & the cash to get songs from some of the most killer pro songwriters.
"desperados under the eaves" would have been an awesome song to end this album with.
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:21 (twelve years ago)
Frey-Henley would argue that J.D. Souther was a killer pro songwriter.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:26 (twelve years ago)
i'm not saying he wasn't i'm saying get MORE stuff from him! instead of the last resort!
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:31 (twelve years ago)
I was waiting, or more like laying in wait, for this one. (and the first track on the next LP) It is an epic, for sure ... I like the lyrics, but as with most Eagles tracks, the production and arrangement are annoying, not to mention Henley's stretching for the next faux-sincere note. (he just about finds the right touch when he launches into that 'You can leave it all behind ...' verse, though)Second thought, were this a democratic band, Randy shoulda sung it.I always thought this aspired to be a gospel song, not a soul song. And in the early verses, don't those keyboards seem to have trouble keeping up with the slowwwwww steady pace?
Going back a song, 'Try and Love Again' is a pretty good Randy song, that could benefit by being about 2 minutes shorter. Production-wise, it's got too much in common with the Eagles' more cloying work, and with the standard AOR pap of the era. Kind of a clump of missed opportunities there... it could have had a little KICK. Maybe it's his bid for a 'Peaceful Easy Feelin' , the kind of song couples want to fuck to.
More on TLR in a sec...D
― Danelectro, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 01:31 (twelve years ago)
Scott, are you gonna do the three bait tracks on "Eagles Live"?
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 01:47 (twelve years ago)
putting garbage into space? 'we were interested in anti-nuclear benefits' ?? In 1976? -- WTH was Glenn smoking?
The last verse is a slam at religion, but it's only informed by the lie of California being paradise. The paradise these guys RULED like GODZ by the way... their climb to the top of the garbage heap and subsequent subhuman hijinks could have happened nowhere else.
As for whether anyone who owned the album even getting this far, get this: A couple I knew in the late 1970s, my friend's brother and sister-in-law, had lived in Cali about the time of HC, and one time after they had moved back to upstate NY they insisted on sitting us down and playing this song, having us HEAR what it had to say. They believed it summed up the experience of living there, in a very profound way. I don't agree, and I didn't even come close to getting it then, but they truly bought it as a grand statement. I suppose they got suckered in by the form - earnest gospelly white-boy soul - as much as the words.
But that doesn't preclude the damn thing from having some power.
Another outsider - Kelly Jones of the Welsh band Stereophonics - does a killer cover of this song. Take it away from Henley and 1976 L.A., and it ... shines. (not on youtube, paste this in yr browser and hit return... <http://allmuz.org/audio/9759962/-250305/Stereophonics-The_Last_Resort>
D
― Danelectro, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 02:04 (twelve years ago)
myonga, i don't know if i ever got back to you about that seger tribute tape my pal josh put out. it came out pretty good. i keep forgetting to ask him if he has copies. he gsve me one without a cover before he put it out.
http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-4124712-1356107794-1898.jpeg
A1 Ruth Garbus – Main Street A2 Steamrollers – Old Time Rock N Roll A3 Jurt Bansch – Beautiful Losers A4 Uke Of Spaces* – Ship Of Fools A5 Baab Ceegar – The Fire Down Below (The River Up Above) Excerpt A6 Shawn McMillen – Night Moves A7 Cop Pride – Ballad Of The Yellow Beret B1 Duck That – Heavy Music B2 Frozen Corn – Tales Of Lucy Blue B3 Magik Markers – Ramblin Gamblin Man B4 Super Spirit – Feel Like A Number B5 I Love Rust – Turn The Page B6 Bob Fay – Still The Same B7 Dark Master – Sunspot Baby B8 Big Blood – 2+2
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 02:07 (twelve years ago)
oops, here's the cover: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=4124712
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 02:08 (twelve years ago)
oops, never mind there it is here. weird.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 02:09 (twelve years ago)
Comment posted by YouTube user poindexter van halen on Eagles version of Walk Away: "Don Henley might as well be a drum machine....."
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 05:57 (twelve years ago)
"Please Come Home For Christmas"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/xmascover.jpg
http://youtu.be/XeShHAZk3to
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:25 (twelve years ago)
See, if you just have Henley sing someone else's piece(and a great R&B songwriter like Charles Brown's to boot), he suddenly becomes soulful: this may be his best-ever Eagles vocal--take the bitter, desperate way he sings "happy" at the close. The solo (Felder?) is just the capper.
This is the first Tim Schmit recording, iirc.
― col, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:43 (twelve years ago)
I didn't need to see these people in bathing suits around a condo pool.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:13 (twelve years ago)
I've never understood why the Christmas song is a thing, but this is fine. Steady songcraft shining through after yesterday's dirge. But I would still never listen to it again, there's nothing here I haven't heard hundreds of times before.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:14 (twelve years ago)
Took me a sec to piece together who Weekend at Bernies guy was in the center until through the power of deduction I realized it was Doned Flanders.
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:26 (twelve years ago)
this may be his best-ever Eagles vocal
OTM. I'm not surprised that the best Eagles vocal is Henley's, but damn surprised that it's this good. It just completely erases the memory of whatever that last poo on Hotel California was.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:36 (twelve years ago)
That poolside photo...I wish they'd sprinkled the palm trees with oocaine to make it look festive
Thanks for that Seger info, Skot!
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:55 (twelve years ago)
when I said yesterday that this morning we'd get to my favorite Eagles song I didn't meant this one.
I guess I meant tomorrow's.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:57 (twelve years ago)
Funky New Year?
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:57 (twelve years ago)
tomorrow is the collision of funk matter and funk antimatter (Henley, D.)
― col, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:59 (twelve years ago)
I had no idea that thing existed.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:00 (twelve years ago)
Well, if you think listening to a New Year's song in October is weird, wait until you see how funky it is.
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:02 (twelve years ago)
funky like the dirt between Frey's toes
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:02 (twelve years ago)