A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

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Another little detail that was really driving me up a wall with Victim of Love was that that faux improvised way Henley says "....no I'm not" after "I could be wrong but I'm not" it's like dude I get it you are right stfu already

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:07 (twelve years ago)

Xpost maybe... But his sticking with it is odd. I mean they were certainly willing to make changes to the lineup to correct what they thought were deficiencies...It had to be pretty obvious that Henley wasn't that God as a drummer, plus it was a liability live to stick essentially lead singer and leader behind the kit...

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:12 (twelve years ago)

According to the doc, Henley started drumming from an early age, and it was definitely his instrument of choice.

The problem with his playing is that it's the very definition of "serviceable" -- it rarely overtly detracts from the song, and he plays the absolute bare minimum required to keep the song together. It's not even "good enough" -- it's just "enough."

hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:12 (twelve years ago)

Henley plays guitar or keyboards too, so who knows if maybe he only became reluctant drummer by default,

Not particularly proficient on any of these either: he's a songwriter dabbling with instruments. Except he's only written a handful of songs on his own. What a strange career.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:13 (twelve years ago)

i apologize for picking on Kiss one more time, but listening to some eagles reminds me of how i feel about some Kiss songs. like, why isn't this song MOVING correctly? like its a beat too slow or the groove is too soggy and you want it to speed up or just have more life in it. the difference being that nobody in Kiss was that great of a musician and at least with eagles - all through their discography - you get these really good guitarists filling in the blanks. or blank spots. and they take your mind of the deficiencies.

scott seward, Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:19 (twelve years ago)

no you're absolutely right, they're maddening in the same ways but for diff reasons

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:29 (twelve years ago)

Giving Victim of Love another chance and yeah, I totally see the frustration - the guitars are doing all the right things but the drumming and to a lesser extent the vocal, it's like seeing a falcon tethered to a perch. No that's too noble, it's like seeing a sports car that's been clamped.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:43 (twelve years ago)

kiss are the worst. I keep trying them again and again...

brimstead, Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:46 (twelve years ago)

I like Kiss mostly bc they were the first band I ever worshipped as a kid
But their catalog is full of dire terribleness

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:53 (twelve years ago)

Glenn & Don are more amusing douches then Gene too.

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:57 (twelve years ago)

idk

i think frey & henley are just more in the closet abt their inherent gene-ness. they pretend they are not douches while gene just IS a douche 24/7

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:07 (twelve years ago)

there is nothing i love about the eagles - not 'i can't tell you why', not the intro to 'one of these nights', not that 8 yr old canadian girl singing 'desperado' - that i love anywhere near as much as i love imitating paul stanley

balls, Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:19 (twelve years ago)

I haven't seen any evidence of Simmons hiding his doucheness!

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:23 (twelve years ago)

kiss are the worst. I keep trying them again and again...

― brimstead, Sunday, October 6, 2013 5:46 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

On record, there's barely anything to get into (I'll rep for Alive!, though). But live, they put on a fun and exciting show, and I appreciate the fact that their live aesthetic was entirely developed as a response to, as Simmons put it, "those San Francisco bands that wore torn jeans and turn their backs on the audience."

But yeah, Simmons is a douche, but at least he's up front about it. Frey and Henley are duplicitous, deceitful, entitled douches.

hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:33 (twelve years ago)

Add narcissistic, mediocre, boring

Untt (La Lechera), Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:52 (twelve years ago)

not even any kakuki makeup to distract you

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:53 (twelve years ago)

kabuki

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:54 (twelve years ago)

So I screened Pretty Maids All In A Row tonight...balls description upthread basically otm. As nutty early '70s movies go, it's definitely couple notches below Beyond the Valley of The Dolls, Prime Cut, Harold & Maude and Brewster McCloud. The non-Rock lead is sub-Bud Cort. Telly Savalas is auditioning for "Kojak". Angie's smokin'. Loads more 70s babes too: Joy Bang, Barbara Leigh (as Rock's wife!), June Fairchild (earlier the jumper in Head and later Eastwood's hooker in Thunderbolt and Lightfoot and the Ajax lady in Up In Smoke).

Has a fantastic Osmonds track as a theme, way better on all counts than alot of this Eagles stuff: http://youtu.be/zxsi_DQ7gIM (there's a faster and even better version that plays over the end credits)

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 7 October 2013 02:40 (twelve years ago)

that's a good osmonds album. that album has good country rock on it. or good ersatz jackson five country rock anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo5RsfsxzY0

scott seward, Monday, 7 October 2013 03:42 (twelve years ago)

I like Kiss mostly bc they were the first band I ever worshipped as a kid
But their catalog is full of dire terribleness

Best Kiss record BY FAR = Ace's first solo joint.

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 7 October 2013 03:45 (twelve years ago)

otm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 October 2013 03:46 (twelve years ago)

and like i said earlier, i saw ace play in a bar in brewster, new york and he was awesome.

scott seward, Monday, 7 October 2013 03:52 (twelve years ago)

Some of my favourite Kissongs were all Ace's too! "Rocket Ride", "Shock Me"...

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 7 October 2013 03:55 (twelve years ago)

"Try And Love Again"

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/whitcap91/Randy/cap085-2.jpg

http://youtu.be/8LNXk0Q3N2s

scott seward, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:17 (twelve years ago)

another classic....

scott seward, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:17 (twelve years ago)

from the classic era...

scott seward, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:17 (twelve years ago)

from this classic band...

scott seward, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:17 (twelve years ago)

I like this song! I legitimately like this song. I like Randy's voice and the guitar riff and the "Ohhhh ohh ohh ohh ohhhhs" and the "Gonna try gonna try gonna try" and the nice way it fades out at the end and the lyrics are unobjectionable.

carl agatha, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:26 (twelve years ago)

I had a dream about this thread last night, btw. The regular participants were sitting around a large picnic table on a train and scott put on the daily Eagles song, but it was one from the dreaded upcoming albums and we all just looked at each other unhappily, unable to even summon up the energy to talk about it.

carl agatha, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:28 (twelve years ago)

(I was on the train commuting to my job as a basketball coach at an all-girls private high school, btw. I don't know where the rest of you were going.)

carl agatha, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:29 (twelve years ago)

ave et vale, Randy. You will be replaced by a more pliable edition.

This is fine, mellow gold Seventies stuff, meant to be heard pleasantly murmuring over the PA at some lakeside bar: it could be Dan Fogelberg; Loggins and Messina; Randy: it's all good. As usual, the guitars are ace.

col, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:30 (twelve years ago)

yeah, this is the best song on the record for me after "New Kid" and the title track.

col, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:32 (twelve years ago)

mellow gold Seventies stuff

Ah, bingo. That's why I like it so much.

carl agatha, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:32 (twelve years ago)

DC FATTBOY 4 months ago
love Randy's soulful, high-pitched vocals and Don Felder's ringing/chiming guitar. to me the eagles stopped being eagles when Randy and Bernie left. from then on they were more like Fleetwood Mac. sorry, I just like the originals. Desperado was one of the best concept albums of all time

carl agatha, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:32 (twelve years ago)

I'm almost getting a Big Star feeling off this, somewhere between "My Life Is Right" and "Try Again." Kinda digging it; unlike Glenley lyrics, you don't get the sense that the sensitivity is masking douchey motives.

hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 7 October 2013 13:34 (twelve years ago)

I could tell it was a Randy song because as good as it is, I checked the YouTube timer to see how if it was almost done and saw that it still had two minutes left.

Farewell, bass playin' Poco man. It will be impossible to replace you.

pplains, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:40 (twelve years ago)

Randy's hair is so perfect in that picture!

This song is ok, he sounds enough like Chris Bell that I can deal with ignoring the lyrics, but as soon as I try to pay attention to what he's saying, he does some little totally Eagles vocal flourish and i realize what I'm doing: I'm somewhat enjoying an Eagles song.

Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 7 October 2013 13:50 (twelve years ago)

ha i just went back and read two posts up
exactly -- everything was good until the illusion broke
that took ~ 2min

Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 7 October 2013 13:54 (twelve years ago)

i've said this elsewhere but i really like try and love again! it's a song i would actually choose to listen to once in a while.

re: pretty maids, the comment that it's better with walsh's voice than it would have been with henley's is right on. i also think i just really hate henley's voice.

call all destroyer, Monday, 7 October 2013 14:27 (twelve years ago)

love the intro guitar lick on this song.

totally hear the Big Star comparison someone made on the "one. by. one. the lonely feelings come" part

this is one of my favorite album tracks so far.

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 October 2013 15:35 (twelve years ago)

what was the other eagles song we heard that reminded me of big star? i can't remember now. it was an early one.

scott seward, Monday, 7 October 2013 16:45 (twelve years ago)

yeah i know what you're talking about but can't remember either

my brain's not the same as when we began this journey

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 October 2013 16:46 (twelve years ago)

iirc, it was something off the first record.

hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 7 October 2013 16:59 (twelve years ago)

ctrl + f "chris bell"

Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 7 October 2013 17:00 (twelve years ago)

This is another good one. I was four minutes in before checking to see if was ending. That said, the coda isn't as pointless as previous ones in the catalogue. See ya Randy...

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 7 October 2013 18:20 (twelve years ago)

is this a bad rip or does the volume really drop precipitously at 2:38?

me too, getting mostly a Poco/Firefall vibe off this one, but yeah it could just as easily have been the uncredited track left off Radio City in favour of "Back of a Car"

Shut Down, vol. 3 (Lee626), Monday, 7 October 2013 18:52 (twelve years ago)

(xxp) also ctrl + f "try again"

open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Monday, 7 October 2013 18:54 (twelve years ago)

I'm sorry Randy but I cannot get with this one at all. It is the boringest kind of music I can imagine. I've tried listening to Big Star and reached the same conclusion - it is one place where the ILM cosmos and I will never meet.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 7 October 2013 22:38 (twelve years ago)

Speed

I said listen driver
I can't afford the fare.

You can get off when you want to,
but I cannot stop it here.

Slow it down now captain,
that chick just missed her stop.

Can you feel the pressure in the air?
this bus is going to pop.

We have to keep it moving,
or else we might explode.

This ride will be the death of us,
a bomb's a heavy load.

Zachary Taylor, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 05:50 (twelve years ago)

Okay, I've got it out of my system. This thread's just got me thinking about metaphors.

Stepping onto the asphalt,
plastic bags in the air.

Cashier say I've still got time,
He can still sell beer.

I wander through aisleways,
Look at all of those fruits.

bought some Negro Modelo,
pack of Phillies Cheroots.

Zachary Taylor, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 06:32 (twelve years ago)


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