A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

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The Eagles are the north korea of rock

lol didn't notice roddenberry produced it. this was vadim's next movie after barbarella, which kinda shocked me cuz i figured it was a ways down the line. crazy that the director of barbarella and the creator of star trek team up soon after and make an overegged forerunner to 80s teen sex comedies. i watched a few clips online, it's as awful and horrifying as you imagine, angie looks great though.

and yeah have zero doubt that he was saving the best stuff for solo albums. apparently this got cut from the long run - http://youtu.be/y8vOK6fuX9o - and then he reworked it for there goes the neighborhood.

You get the sense that "Life's Been Good" was something he had but was like, 'nah, this is too good for the Eagles.'

Wonder who threw who a bone that it shows up on the Live album?

"scottie from star trek is also in this."

Was a real-life childhood friend of my grandfather! (true)

The Eagles are the north korea of rock

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hahahahaha. This should be a t-shirt, a bumper sticker, and on a banner flown behind a plane over every single one of their concerts.

Are you talking about this one, Iago?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1971g_eagles-hotel-california_music

― pplains, Sunday, October 6, 2013 12:26 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thanks, pplains--that's it....and thanks Scott for the background

"Life's Been Good" was easily the highlight of the show I had to review in '03. He wore a miner's helmet to signify his commitment to goofiness or something.

The Eagles are the north korea of rock

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hahahahaha. This should be a t-shirt, a bumper sticker, and on a banner flown behind a plane over every single one of their concerts.

― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, October 6, 2013 11:49 AM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Where's my "Glenn Frey Looking At Things" tumblr?

Anyway, "Pretty Maids All In A Row": This sounds like Wings. I had that nice James Gang Greatest Hits set in the truck changer last week and you forget how McCartney-esque Walsh can be ("Midnight Man") so this isn't a surprise. It seems very Eagles that they bring Walsh in and allow him to make Henley/Frey songs rock, but forbid him to do so on his own showcase. As slow Joe songs go, this is on the less-memorable side.

I picked up the Pretty Maids movie awhile back in a Warner archive sale, but have yet to screen. If I remember I'll dig it up and check it out tonight.

I loved the movie - lotharios in cinema are compelling, and an oft-played archetype for secretly gay matinee idol Hudson
(cf. Warren Beatty in 'Shampoo', for one; David Duchovny in several roles starting with 'New Year's Day').

The song is sweet, though kind of dated -- better than most of the ballads that hit the charts that year.
(and fwiw 'Life's Been Good' was always a Joe song to me, never an Eagles song)

Wow. I'm almost mad at you guys for pointing out Henley's terrible drumming. It's like when someone says "do you hear that annoying beeping" but you hadn't noticed before then it's all you can hear.

Victim of Love, wow the drumming is just so terrible... No energy or creativity or flair. The choice to isolate some of those amateur hour fills is really puzzling

Pretty Maids I like OK! rare instance of then doing an unlikely and inspired choice. Song would seem to be perfect for Henley but have Joe's far less perfect voice gives the song a nice character, would have seemed too easy listening with Henley

Henley plays guitar or keyboards too, so who knows if maybe he only became reluctant drummer by default, like McCartney on bass. (Except Paul became a fabulous bassist, of course.)

Another little detail that was really driving me up a wall with Victim of Love was that that faux improvised way Henley says "....no I'm not" after "I could be wrong but I'm not" it's like dude I get it you are right stfu already

Xpost maybe... But his sticking with it is odd. I mean they were certainly willing to make changes to the lineup to correct what they thought were deficiencies...It had to be pretty obvious that Henley wasn't that God as a drummer, plus it was a liability live to stick essentially lead singer and leader behind the kit...

According to the doc, Henley started drumming from an early age, and it was definitely his instrument of choice.

The problem with his playing is that it's the very definition of "serviceable" -- it rarely overtly detracts from the song, and he plays the absolute bare minimum required to keep the song together. It's not even "good enough" -- it's just "enough."

Henley plays guitar or keyboards too, so who knows if maybe he only became reluctant drummer by default,

Not particularly proficient on any of these either: he's a songwriter dabbling with instruments. Except he's only written a handful of songs on his own. What a strange career.

i apologize for picking on Kiss one more time, but listening to some eagles reminds me of how i feel about some Kiss songs. like, why isn't this song MOVING correctly? like its a beat too slow or the groove is too soggy and you want it to speed up or just have more life in it. the difference being that nobody in Kiss was that great of a musician and at least with eagles - all through their discography - you get these really good guitarists filling in the blanks. or blank spots. and they take your mind of the deficiencies.

no you're absolutely right, they're maddening in the same ways but for diff reasons

Giving Victim of Love another chance and yeah, I totally see the frustration - the guitars are doing all the right things but the drumming and to a lesser extent the vocal, it's like seeing a falcon tethered to a perch. No that's too noble, it's like seeing a sports car that's been clamped.

kiss are the worst. I keep trying them again and again...

I like Kiss mostly bc they were the first band I ever worshipped as a kid
But their catalog is full of dire terribleness

Glenn & Don are more amusing douches then Gene too.

idk

i think frey & henley are just more in the closet abt their inherent gene-ness. they pretend they are not douches while gene just IS a douche 24/7

there is nothing i love about the eagles - not 'i can't tell you why', not the intro to 'one of these nights', not that 8 yr old canadian girl singing 'desperado' - that i love anywhere near as much as i love imitating paul stanley

I haven't seen any evidence of Simmons hiding his doucheness!

kiss are the worst. I keep trying them again and again...

― brimstead, Sunday, October 6, 2013 5:46 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

On record, there's barely anything to get into (I'll rep for Alive!, though). But live, they put on a fun and exciting show, and I appreciate the fact that their live aesthetic was entirely developed as a response to, as Simmons put it, "those San Francisco bands that wore torn jeans and turn their backs on the audience."

But yeah, Simmons is a douche, but at least he's up front about it. Frey and Henley are duplicitous, deceitful, entitled douches.

Add narcissistic, mediocre, boring

not even any kakuki makeup to distract you

kabuki

So I screened Pretty Maids All In A Row tonight...balls description upthread basically otm. As nutty early '70s movies go, it's definitely couple notches below Beyond the Valley of The Dolls, Prime Cut, Harold & Maude and Brewster McCloud. The non-Rock lead is sub-Bud Cort. Telly Savalas is auditioning for "Kojak". Angie's smokin'. Loads more 70s babes too: Joy Bang, Barbara Leigh (as Rock's wife!), June Fairchild (earlier the jumper in Head and later Eastwood's hooker in Thunderbolt and Lightfoot and the Ajax lady in Up In Smoke).

Has a fantastic Osmonds track as a theme, way better on all counts than alot of this Eagles stuff: http://youtu.be/zxsi_DQ7gIM (there's a faster and even better version that plays over the end credits)

that's a good osmonds album. that album has good country rock on it. or good ersatz jackson five country rock anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo5RsfsxzY0

I like Kiss mostly bc they were the first band I ever worshipped as a kid
But their catalog is full of dire terribleness

Best Kiss record BY FAR = Ace's first solo joint.

otm

and like i said earlier, i saw ace play in a bar in brewster, new york and he was awesome.

Some of my favourite Kissongs were all Ace's too! "Rocket Ride", "Shock Me"...

"Try And Love Again"

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/whitcap91/Randy/cap085-2.jpg

http://youtu.be/8LNXk0Q3N2s

another classic....

from the classic era...

from this classic band...

I like this song! I legitimately like this song. I like Randy's voice and the guitar riff and the "Ohhhh ohh ohh ohh ohhhhs" and the "Gonna try gonna try gonna try" and the nice way it fades out at the end and the lyrics are unobjectionable.

I had a dream about this thread last night, btw. The regular participants were sitting around a large picnic table on a train and scott put on the daily Eagles song, but it was one from the dreaded upcoming albums and we all just looked at each other unhappily, unable to even summon up the energy to talk about it.

(I was on the train commuting to my job as a basketball coach at an all-girls private high school, btw. I don't know where the rest of you were going.)

ave et vale, Randy. You will be replaced by a more pliable edition.

This is fine, mellow gold Seventies stuff, meant to be heard pleasantly murmuring over the PA at some lakeside bar: it could be Dan Fogelberg; Loggins and Messina; Randy: it's all good. As usual, the guitars are ace.

yeah, this is the best song on the record for me after "New Kid" and the title track.

mellow gold Seventies stuff

Ah, bingo. That's why I like it so much.

DC FATTBOY 4 months ago
love Randy's soulful, high-pitched vocals and Don Felder's ringing/chiming guitar. to me the eagles stopped being eagles when Randy and Bernie left. from then on they were more like Fleetwood Mac. sorry, I just like the originals. Desperado was one of the best concept albums of all time

I'm almost getting a Big Star feeling off this, somewhere between "My Life Is Right" and "Try Again." Kinda digging it; unlike Glenley lyrics, you don't get the sense that the sensitivity is masking douchey motives.

I could tell it was a Randy song because as good as it is, I checked the YouTube timer to see how if it was almost done and saw that it still had two minutes left.

Farewell, bass playin' Poco man. It will be impossible to replace you.

Randy's hair is so perfect in that picture!

This song is ok, he sounds enough like Chris Bell that I can deal with ignoring the lyrics, but as soon as I try to pay attention to what he's saying, he does some little totally Eagles vocal flourish and i realize what I'm doing: I'm somewhat enjoying an Eagles song.

ha i just went back and read two posts up
exactly -- everything was good until the illusion broke
that took ~ 2min