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i definitely sell fleetwood mac albums to college kids. mostly college kids.

*anecdotal*

yeah i don't think it'd be far wrong to say that (buckingham-nicks) fleetwood mac are THE #1 classic band for somewhat with-it mid-20s-ish people (e.g. vampire weekend fans) nowadays.

dude at the local used record shop says kids have been buying hell of fleetwood mac lately

I discovered my parents' copy of Rumours around the time of the Clinton inaugural. I knew the Rumours hits and "Little Lies" and "Gypsy" and a couple of Nicks solo hits. On a whim I bought the '88 greatest hits in fall '96 from Columbia House and Tusk and Tango in early '97. By the time The Dance was out I'd converted the entire newsroom of early twentysomethings at my college newspaper to the Mac. My best friend played Rumours constantly when he broke up with his girlfriend that fall.

and let's not forget: The Dance version of "Landslide" was on constant rotation through '98.

Billy Corgan prob has more to do w/ that song's 90s resurgence.

and let's not forget: The Dance version of "Landslide" was on constant rotation through '98.

Yeah, that was that weird era of MTV where you watched and though, really, is this what people want to see/hear?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yHBz3K0yKg

I was wearing my Fleetwood Mac penguin t-shirt one day, and this dude in his '50s with a big grey beard stopped me and said "awesome shirt, man." But then later that day, picking up my younger daughter from day care, one of the assistants, an African American woman in her early '20s (in her case, possibly literally from Africa, I think) stopped me and said "awesome shirt" and gave me a thumbs up.

they might have just liked penguins

Everyone likes penguins.

max otm as usual

I vividly remember waking up to "Little Lies" on the clock radio one morning in middle school, and I guess I've been a fan ever since. I'm sure I heard their earlier stuff on the radio, but "Little Lies" is what I remember as the gateway, that and possibly "Hold Me." Much later I know I had a cut out copy of "Out of the Cradle" on cassette, and a copy of "Tusk," which I think I bought via an Xgau review that referenced Eno, and possibly also that famed SPIN listacle that called "Tusk" and (at the time) "Paul's Boutique" a couple of the most underrated albums of all time. Which may have been ... '91 or so?

indie kids in athens at least have worshiped tusk for as long as i can remember. when smashing pumpkins covered 'landslide' it wasn't a sign of corgan's or fleetwood mac's uncoolness. obv were not always so -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKtASyCinfc

but fleetwood mac were one of the first classic rock acts rehabilitated or whatever by altrock - after sabbath but before say steely dan.

1995's Melody Maker piece about Tusk by Simon Reynolds might be the first thing i ever read that made me think they could become hip again with my generation. http://reynoldsretro.blogspot.co.uk/2007/10/fleetwood-mac-tusk-from-unknown.html

my take was always "lol boomer soft rock" and my first taste of hipster mac was the Melvins insisting Peter Green era was the jam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB19kSIrFNc

Didn't really boomerang back to me until this wave of millenials

Not to interrupt the Fleetwood Mac discussion, but as it relates to Haim, I think part of the disconnect in the comparison is that people who hear "Haim sounds like Fleetwood Mac" expect to hear songs and tunes that sound like Fleetwood Mac, and Haim doesn't really have those -- it's more that they sound like an era of Fleetowood Mac, the influence is much more sonic than melodic. And it's probably overstated even on that count, because they really sound like a whole era of pop-rock, for which '80s Fleetwood Mac is just one reference point. I hear as much latter-day New Wave -- the sumptuous period of Tears for Fears/"Perfect Way"/Thompson Twins etc.

I didn't grow up with Fleetwood Mac and only really heard "Don't Stop" and I dunno, maybe "Rhiannon" as a kid, cause of Clinton/oldies radio. I only really became familiar with them a few years ago when I frequented a Portland karaoke joint where it seemed like every third song performed was from Rumours. And even then it took me breaking down and checking the album out to put together that all those songs were from the same album, let alone the same band. (And appropriately enough given the talk of their diversity above, each subsequent album I've heard has had at least one song where I went "oh that song is Fleetwood Mac?")

My problem with fleetwood Mac is that it all sounds like Girl Talk. I mean wth

Then of course we saw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJe25qy4odw

"and my first taste of hipster mac was the Melvins insisting Peter Green era was the jam"

mine was when judas priest did the same song at the end of the 70's! i remember thinking wow this is a fleetwood mac song??? i only knew the (then) current hits.

i got tusk for christmas the year it came out but at the time i really only loved the song tusk. the other stuff on the album sounded weird to me. i was kinda obsessed with that song.

Album beat Timberlake for #1 in the UK. http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/haim-debut-at-number-1-with-days-are-gone-2527/

tusk and another brick in the wall were both obsessions for me in 1979. the whisper to a scream thing was so cool. they might as well have been the same song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BglEyv5O2Y

I've had no internet access at home for over a week (dead monitor) so I'm just getting to listen to this all for the first time and I think it's good. Some songs are sounding better to me away from the videos and in the context of the whole album.

I hear as much latter-day New Wave -- the sumptuous period of Tears for Fears/"Perfect Way"/Thompson Twins etc.

otm

i always like when kids like stuff that doesn't make me cry. this stuff is fine. if i were a teen they would be my new faves probably. play the album over and over. that kinda thing. okay, maybe i wouldn't, but i don't hate their sound. its congenial. they seem nice.

plus, i hate to sound like a square or something but this right here is just a cool thing for young girls to see. they're doing their own thing and they are good at it. and having fun!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg1X_2MnvUE

i don't want to hear about anything being "telling" ever again

of all the bands to be "controversial" in 2013, jeez, this one?

Lol I can totally hear thr Tusk/Another Brick in the Wall similarities

Haim album is dece from what I've heard so far

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i mean there a million really specific genealogies you can trace out--i think the balearic angle is an impt one--but the big picture is just that mac is cool now because they werent cool before and thats how cool works

― max, Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:43 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

word. imwoyp fleetwood mac became cool approx 1.5-2 years ago

because I'm willing to bet plenty that there is barely a tiny fraction of, say, Vampire Weekend's fanbase that has ever played a single Mac song of their own volition.

hahaha WHAT

― call all destroyer, Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:42 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

eh i think there's some truth to that. i mean vdubs have very broad fanbase but i doubt most of their fans were grazed by hipster mac reappraisal

love the level of generalization in this thread, guys. Keep it up.

woah weren't u extrapolating like amotherfucker upthread, something about your local paper's coverage of a mac concert in the nineties?

I wasn't extrapolating anything other than what music coverage of a moribund seventies band read like in 1997.

I'm pretty sure VW fans know the Mac hits but not enough to buy an album or download them -- as with most people with bands that are omnipresent on radio, satellite or otherwise. Like the Eagles!

yeah uh duh, hence "has ever played a single Mac song of their own volition"

i had the exact same experience as rev ("oh that song is Fleetwood Mac?") when i started listening to mac lp's, had never put on mac but as soon as i heard the albums was stunned at how many lifelong jams were on them

remember midlake getting a lot of mac comparisons like 7 years ago, then the last(?) rilo kiley record too. superficial comparisons tbh but seems like they have been an "influence" on indie bands for a while

here's good inspiration for haim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1YUw0gmvRE

and vampire weekend could do a good cover of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfHJMOYwOtY

remember midlake getting a lot of mac comparisons like 7 years ago, then the last(?) rilo kiley record too. superficial comparisons tbh but seems like they have been an "influence" on indie bands for a while

― buzza, Monday, October 7, 2013 1:38 AM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah Midlake were what I was thinking about upthread when I was saying that FM revival can mean a lot of different things.

"Roscoe" sounds like it draws from their seventies work on both sides of the divide - Future Games through to Tusk basically, with nothing afterwards.

Whereas to the extent that Haim resemble FM the resemblance starts with Tusk and then encompasses Mirage and Tango.

When viewed within the context of the broader revivalist sound that the two acts are going for they may as well be referencing different bands.

err, can we just talk about 'vdubs' please

Just saw them; the short set list was the same as their UK appearances - the singles, none of the R&B leaning album tracks, and the drum-circle set piece finale.

Este has a second calling in standup and is a really tight bassist, "bass face" may be a self-conscious tic by now; Danielle is reticent, has a command of a stuttering S. Nicks register voice, and clearly enjoys the rockout sections more than the verses; and Alana is at the moment bit shadowed in the multi-instrumentalist role. Ie, if you've seen a couple of interviews, their onstage dynamic will seem familiar.

The FM comparisons are really down to the palm muted guitar and breakup lyrics, right? I came to FM long after their heyday, but I buy into FM's dramas, with its cornerwise glances from spurned spouses, kooky witch romanticism, and all. I don't buy into Haim sharing similar dramas - maybe its the line-less faces and sibling haircuts, but it still feels like mockups rather than lived mistakes.

The hooks and energy are all there, they could play up their Bangles/B-52s leanings to good effect.

Not a slight to Haim, but when you realise how much certain songs echo other famous pop songs from 1986/7 it's hard not to 'unhear'. The Wire takes a lot of cues from When The Going Gets Tough. Falling has more than a passing similarity to Girls Just Wanna Have Fun. There's another track which is prime Graceland-era Paul Simon. I don't mind though as for me it's no different from Daft Punk's wholesale sampling of 70s funk and soul tracks for Discovery.