that's neat and the fingerpicks sound lovely and bright. nice development too, kind of turns into a penguin cafe orchestra jam at the end. how many guitar tracks?
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 3 October 2013 20:46 (twelve years ago)
total of 5 by the end...i kinda arbitrarily added something about every 45 seconds
i don't know penguin cafe orchestra, i'll check them out
fun trying to get a handle on multitrack recording
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:47 (twelve years ago)
well it was only the way the guitars were piled up playing repeated phrases that reminded me of PCO, they're waaaaay too twee and refined for this thread but here you go anyhow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd066rqUJqQ
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:57 (twelve years ago)
a friend of mine made a 'best of' for PCO, I really dig some of their stuff. Not quite like things in this thread, but in the same realm if not barking up quite the same tree:
http://open.spotify.com/user/mrbeecheese/playlist/3pSTJJjgdDeOxTBDkpQKux
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 4 October 2013 02:17 (twelve years ago)
Hey UMS, the picks sound good, seems like you are making that transition pretty seamlessly.
― grandavis, Friday, 4 October 2013 13:17 (twelve years ago)
Also, they finally posted the Tom Carter Three Lobed set from Hopscotch on NYC Taper. It was a burner, can't wait to hear it again!:
http://www.nyctaper.com/2013/10/tom-carter-september-6-2013-three-lobed-wxdu-day-show-kings-raleigh-nc-flacmp3streaming/
― grandavis, Friday, 4 October 2013 13:19 (twelve years ago)
sweet
― tylerw, Friday, 4 October 2013 14:17 (twelve years ago)
thanks grandavis
global thanks for posting that playlist
i'm totally digging this pegnuin cafe orchestra....definitely not in the vein of anything in this thread, but i can totally hear it in relation to maybe robert wyatt or ivor cutler type stuff
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 16:10 (twelve years ago)
My buddy knows more about them, but basically he described 'em as Simon Jeffes as the mastermind and composer, and he'd have a revolving door of musicians, and some were close to amateur/self-taught. I think that element of sorta-primitivism adds a lot of color to the songs. That he'd write really intricate parts that would co-exist with the very simplistic.
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 4 October 2013 18:54 (twelve years ago)
yeah this band a is a minor miracle because it's really brilliant IMO but SO CLOSE to shit that i would really hate
i'd bet money the rotating cast of pp and relatively amateurism is what's making this something i love
there's a certain fragile quality to it which i think is what reminded me of wyatt
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 18:56 (twelve years ago)
terry goes camping sounds nice, dude! guys the new daniel bachman record is excellent -- maybe a little less hopped up than previous things.
― tylerw, Friday, 4 October 2013 20:31 (twelve years ago)
the layering on your track is making me think of that danny paul grody LP a bit.
― tylerw, Friday, 4 October 2013 20:33 (twelve years ago)
thanks! yeah i'm p in love with the new DPG album
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 21:00 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, DPG is not a bad comparison UMS. That is a lovely record, very tasteful but cool playing all over it.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 14:54 (twelve years ago)
Ogmor alert (and anyone else looking for the less trad stuff touched on in this thread): I have seen this guy Tashi Dorji's name thrown out here and there, but I am just checking him out now, and it's pretty damn great. A real mix of prepared acoustic guitar played in an "out" way, slightly disjointed but pretty playing, and gamelan-ish bell tones vs. percussive hits etc. Really digging it right now. No overdubs, and some great tones for an acoustic guitar:
http://tashidorji1.bandcamp.com/
― grandavis, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 14:57 (twelve years ago)
i like that
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:19 (twelve years ago)
taster of the new cian nugent record. really good, though it's the epic numbers that are blowing my mind. "houses of parliament" is like an all-time jam. http://www.thefader.com/2013/10/09/video-cian-nugent-the-cosmos-grass-above-my-head/
― tylerw, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:55 (twelve years ago)
Nugent is an epic string-bender, can't wait to hear that record for more of that action. He just slips in some really cool bends that make his phrasing hit some surprising and very soulful marks in equal measure. Seems like he can definitely take his playing in a lot of directions.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 16:10 (twelve years ago)
that's incredibly lovely. i like the subtle arrangements. reminds me a bit of tyler's last but more subtle and dreamy. i like how he takes his time to let things unfurl.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 17:48 (twelve years ago)
listening to the new bachman right now.
it's good. he's a really great player. that said, i'm beginning to think he doesn't quite know how to expand his palette or make records like some of his contemporaries.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 19:32 (twelve years ago)
then again, a lot of things would suffer in comparison to that cian nugent track you posted tyler...wow. such range and done with such aplomb.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 19:33 (twelve years ago)
the old timier stuff on the new bachman works really well for me -- the stuff with the fiddle?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 19:39 (twelve years ago)
yeah i like those
i mean i like the whole thing, i'm not dissin'
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 19:43 (twelve years ago)
UMS I feel what you are saying. I do think Bachman takes some small steps on this one towards some outwards expansion, but he is also 23 or something, so I imagine that he might have a lot of stuff in the works over the next few years (hope so at least, so much potential there). I wonder how old the songs on this new one are, it came out with very little warning/fanfare (at least compared to a lot of the similar records that have come out this year), so maybe it wasn't labored over too much. Might not have been a big deal for the label or Daniel, just a collection of stuff he had in the bag, but I have no idea if that is the case.
I at least feel like there is a little more air/space on this one, though really I should listen to it again.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:10 (twelve years ago)
Huh, listening to a D. Bachman interview right now where he says that the new record was specifically a set of songs that he had been wanting to record for a while, it is not his latest batch of compositions at all. He has another in the works that is going to be "different", which who knows what that means in the context of his catalogue, but it does seem that this record was specifically made as a collection of more trad stuff done in a way he hadn't before, i.e., very straight and with a limited paleyte in mind from the get-go.
― grandavis, Thursday, 10 October 2013 17:22 (twelve years ago)
yeah that's cool. that's def what it sounds like. and he's a good player, i can always listen to him play. i agree w/tyler that the more trad fiddle stuff is the best i think.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 October 2013 18:15 (twelve years ago)
yeah, pretty sure he has wide ranging tastes, wouldn't be surprised if he's got some more psych-y/experimental thangs coming in the future.
― tylerw, Thursday, 10 October 2013 18:16 (twelve years ago)
Here is a recording of Daniel Bachman and Ryley Walker on Freeform Radio WBAR on Oct. 7th.http://dyingforbadmusic.tumblr.com/post/63666878835/daniel-bachman-ryley-walker-wbar-jurassic-snarkAnd as download: https://db.tt/hRhfLf0a - Ryley is a pretty good player too methinks.
Regarding to the new one. I like the traditional stuff too - but hardly can't hear a difference between this: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Black_Twig_Pickers_and_Steve_Gunn/NATCH_1/ and e.g. Chattanooga. But I guess there is no need to make a difference :). At all it sounds less coherent and as mentioned before, like a collection of songs thrown together.Seven Pines is still my favorite track/song.Looking forward to have them here again.
Sam Moss' coming album is pretty good too. http://sammoss.bandcamp.com/album/no-kingdom
― DFBM (Nikolaus Höhle), Thursday, 10 October 2013 20:14 (twelve years ago)
there was new bachman track posted by PRTLZ https://soundcloud.com/prtls/daniel-bachman-we-would-be
― DFBM (Nikolaus Höhle), Thursday, 10 October 2013 20:20 (twelve years ago)
'ey all, greetings. Glad to find a new home. Fangs & Arrows was my old spot, slowly dried up over the years sadly. Revolt of ILX was like a great star to spotted on a random nite. I'm from Richmond, Virginia and I know that I've seen references or people here from that area as well too, great stuff.
Good buds Dan Bachman and Ryley Walker had their tour dates tacked onto Dan's new Tompkins Square album. Hell yes for the dude, I believe he will have a Three Lobed release near soon, not sure when. Also, Ryley's gonna have a Tompkins release soon - which is incredible cuz the guy is puttin down some good good tunes. His 7" was a complete departure from his instrumental tape on Plus Tapes.. Davey and Drake comparisons aside, Ryley's got some pipes, and dropped picks for nails. Seek out his single on soundcloud somewhere, real nice.
Here's the run down of Dan's Tompkins press release, tour dates with Ryley at the bottom:
'Jesus I'm a Sinner' is the 4th LP by Daniel Bachman, the follow up to last year's acclaimed 'Seven Pines'. It was recorded in Rappahannock County Virginia at Forrest Marquisee's studio inside his father's woodshop in May of 2013 after spending 8 months on the road.
The first song 'Sarah Anne' is for one of his best friends and sister, Sarah Anne Bachman, and it's also his first full song for the lap guitar. 'Honeysuckle Reel' is a springtime tune, for that first day when the heat and humidity sets in and the smell of the honeysuckle bloom creeps in your open windows driving. 'Happy One Step' is a guitar/fiddle duet with Sally Morgan of the Black Twig Pickers/The Freight Hoppers. It is a Cajun tune by Dennis McGee. 'Jesus I'm a Sinner' is for cutting loose. 'Variation on Goose Chase' is a version of Virgil Anderson's 'Goose Chase'. Although attempted to adapt to the guitar, playing it on the banjo was the only way to keep the feel of the original version.
'Under the Shade of the Trees' has the undertone and drone of the 17 year cicada hatch that hit Virginia summer of 2013. The title is taken from Stonewall Jackson's last words on his deathbed, "Let us cross over the river, and rest under the shade of the trees". 'Chattanooga' is played by Sally Anne Morgan (fiddle) and Charlie Devine (banjo). This version was taken from Blaine Smith. 'Blenheim' is the name of the Latané family's property in Westmoreland Co. Virginia. It's a song for good food, drinks and solid company nestled on the banks of the Potomac River. 'Leaving Istanbul (4 AM)' is a frustration song - the feeling of being very tired thousands and thousands of miles away from home.
'Jesus I'm A Sinner' Available on LP (TSQ2950), CD (TSQ2943) and DLDistributed by INgrooves in the US, Cargo UK for Europe, FUSE for Australia
Tour dates (w/ Ryley Walker) :
OCTOBER10th - Antwerp - Audio Plant11th - Koln - Bastille Kalk12th - Weisbaden - Fragmente13th - Berlin - Monarch Berlin14th - Berlin - Normans House Party15th - Schwarzenburg - Galerie Rademann16th - Ceske Budejovice -Horka Vana17th - Vienna - Mo.e19th - Genoa - Garage 151721st - Marseille - Grim22nd - Cafè El Cercle, Girona23rd - Barcelona - Heliogabal24th - Madrid - La Faena Bolos25th - Paris - les Instants Chavirés27th - Louvain La Neuve - Ecuries de la Ferme du Biéreau28th - Brussels -Bonnefooi 29th - Leiden - Hannah And Leos30th - Den Hag - Villa Te Kuip31st - Amsterdam - Occi NOV/DEC solo dates :15th - Durham - Pinhook16th - Ashville - Apothecary17th - Nashville - Bang Candy Company18th - Louisville - TBA19th - Urbana - Indigo20th - Oberlin - Fairchild Chapel21st - Pittsburgh - Acoustic Music Works22nd - Charlottesville - Tea Bazaar29th - Seattle - Gallery 141230th - Portland @ Little Axe12/1 - Eugene - TBA12/2 - Arcata - Missing Link Records12/3 - Davis - Rock University12/4 - Oakland - The Night Light w/ Common Eider, King Eider12/5 - SF - Hemlock Tavern w/ Michael Beach12/6 - LA - TBA12/7 - San Diego - Craftlab Gallery w/ Octagrape
― Neal Cassady, Friday, 11 October 2013 11:17 (twelve years ago)
tylerw"yeah, pretty sure he has wide ranging tastes, wouldn't be surprised if he's got some more psych-y/experimental thangs coming in the future."
His Sacred Harp tape was pretty psych and collage leaning, same goes with the original Sacred Harp LP. Probably heard these people, maybe not, but knowing Dan, and that Feeding Tube Records tape "Taman Shud" I put up on Broadcasts From Poor Farm, he's got it going in lotsa directions.
― Neal Cassady, Friday, 11 October 2013 11:23 (twelve years ago)
Neal? Matt?
― DFBM (Nikolaus Höhle), Friday, 11 October 2013 12:07 (twelve years ago)
Yass yass, it's me. My screen name everywhere across forum world is always Neal Cassady - nice to run into you here!
― Neal Cassady, Friday, 11 October 2013 13:03 (twelve years ago)
Hi Neal :)
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 October 2013 14:15 (twelve years ago)
Yeah hi Neal! I live in Charlottesville, just down the road. A bunch of good shows coming up here if you get the hankering: Marisa Anderson on Sunday Oct. 20, Nathan Bowles and Scott Verrastro (and my band Grand Banks) on Nov. 8, and then Daniel Bachman and Nathan Bowles on Nov. 22. If you head this way I may see you at one of those shows.
― grandavis, Friday, 11 October 2013 14:28 (twelve years ago)
Just catching up here, digging that D. Bachman "We Would Be Building" song, which I have definitely seen live. Nice slow and simple one, really pretty.
― grandavis, Friday, 11 October 2013 14:44 (twelve years ago)
haha neal you had to go and show up all us amateur pickers
that's really great
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 October 2013 16:37 (twelve years ago)
hey neal cassady, we are frenz on facebook! been loving your egypt photos!
― ian, Friday, 11 October 2013 17:00 (twelve years ago)
Yeah Neal, that is some really nice playing. Feel free to post some more, we are not adverse to sharing here. I for one had never heard your stuff, nor Ragtime Ralph, so glad to have it thrown my way.
― grandavis, Friday, 11 October 2013 17:35 (twelve years ago)
Also, hope Egypt is treating you well. Maybe we'll cross paths in VA sometime.
― grandavis, Friday, 11 October 2013 17:37 (twelve years ago)
I am in ATL/Georgia next month and can send stuff on domestic way. But ordering overseas in Europe still isn't that expensive than the other way around :P.And since Neal already drew the connection, I released 2 new things last week:Wes Tirey - Singer Songwriter and at least two lengthy guitar instrumentals (When you eyes see the valley and On Winter...)http://dyingforbadmusic.com/dfbm19-wes-tirey-i-stood-among-trees.phtml
and Sean Proper from Florida with guitar only stuff: http://dyingforbadmusic.com/dfbm18-sean-proper-design-engine.phtmlread also the interview where he made some interesting statements about playing this kind of music on the sunny side of lifehttp://dyingforbadmusic.com/blog/post/2013/09/sean-proper-interview.htmlAnd the interview with Matt/Neal/Rag Lore is pretty interesting too:http://dyingforbadmusic.com/blog/post/2013/02/the-poor-farm-rag-lore-of-matthew-russell-boteilho-interview.html
(Sorry for the advertising, but... it's somehow related so forgive me :)
― DFBM (Nikolaus Höhle), Friday, 11 October 2013 18:27 (twelve years ago)
I think I messed up that former youtube clip of Ralph Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fclQmN7VOVQ
Lets see if it works.
― Neal Cassady, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:34 (twelve years ago)
listening to the Ragtime Ralph Vol 4....damn too bad this never came out, really great stuff....
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:01 (twelve years ago)
I had Daniel Bachman and Ryley Walker over here in the Ore Mountains and it was absolutely stunning to see them play and listen to their music live.
Ryley's set is up on bandcamp now. Daniel's recording will follow.
https://f0.bcbits.com/img/a0380690692_2.jpgRyley Walker - The Bootleg – Live at Galerie Rademann, Schwarzenberg / GER, 15-Oct-2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFG2NHVOu4w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDHN6zdkVl4
― DFBM (Nikolaus Höhle), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:01 (twelve years ago)
nice! sounds like he's got the jansch/renbourn/graham style down.
― tylerw, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:34 (twelve years ago)
wow he's great....he even looks like someone from 1971!
but it's cool, i mentioned thousands of posts ago, i really like the graham/jansch school as much as the takoma school but there just seems to be more people mining the takoma thing nowadays.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:45 (twelve years ago)
yeah, you checked out the new nathan salsburg album yet? definitely more of a UK folk thing happening there.
― tylerw, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:53 (twelve years ago)
yeah i really need to check that out....i like that Avos record a lot, though he seems like one of those guys that's gonna end up verging into something too slick maybe? i don't know how this one is.
went to an open mic night last night. first time i'd played out with fingerpicks. showed up late and it was a pretty long list but the guy let me get on for one song right at the end. played the song pretty well and a bunch of older dudes came up to me after and said they liked it and asked if it was mine or a cover. it was in open C and a bunch of them asked what tuning it was in. so seemed to go over well which felt good and definitely good to get over the fear of playing with fingerpicks.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:56 (twelve years ago)
oh i forgot to make a zip and upload that Bill Holt thing tyler i'll try to do that today.
Yeah, Ryley can really play, interested to see where he takes that sound. Still feel like the Salsburg is a little airless/slick as well, but I also need to spend more time with it. Really I am imagining that I will dig it more over time, but I definitely lean towards a looser feel these days.
― grandavis, Friday, 18 October 2013 15:58 (twelve years ago)