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some of the drum sounds on this remind me of Invisible Touch era Genesis

That's otm

kind of a dumb generalization though I guess since most '80 records tried to have phil collins sounding drums haha

so basically "80s drums"

"Tony Banks drums"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW68T84RLHw

lol

I didn't even know I was nostalgic for something like this but it's taking me back to being a 9 year old listening to the Jets.

I watched that Genesis video, and most of the time Phil isn't even playing the drums. He's not even singing into a real microphone! What a scam. I bet they never imagine that video would be around 25 years later and that people would be checking. Shame on you, Genesis. Shame. On. You.

It's a gormless video

what do you call that kind of '80s beat anyway (on the Haim record, not Genesis)? is it a Jam & Lewis thing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcQYgrm6Vv0

"eighties drums" means many things: programmed Linn drums, gated drums, etc

while we're talking about drums, 'the wire' opening drums = rock and roll pt. 2 drums

yeah totally

It's not "Heartache Tonight"?

yeah, I was talking more about that jam & lewis kind of beat like on Falling, Forever, Change Your Mind, and Days Are Gone.

or I guess it's also similar to latin freestyle? Let the Music Play

lol sorry, next time I'll read the thread first

while we're talking about drums, 'the wire' opening drums = rock and roll pt. 2 drums

― 乒乓, Wednesday, October 2, 2013 11:12 AM Bookmark

It's that big 12/8 beat (see also: "The Beautiful People", "Atlas", "Black Skinhead")

Something else that Forever reminds me of - there's a synth bit just before the chorus that I swear is straight out of Bizarre Love Triangle. The guitar break is kinda Barney too.

I keep hoping these guys will get booked on snl this year, which is never a hope I've really had for a band before?

you could do a pretty good mashup of Forever and Spring Love by Stevie B

Stop.

You're going to send Alfred into convulsions.

*convulses in office as "I Wanna Be the One" blasts*

haha oh yeah, you're in miami, right?

iirc, "The Star Spangled Banner" is the national anthem outside of Dade County, where it's "Spring Love".

the freestyle comparisons sold me on this album a lot more than the Mac ones. my cd just arrived in the mail: no typo!

top 40 radio in san jose was that kind of stuff when I was a kid. so I always just think of that sound as "80s music" and I heard this and thought "hey it's 1986"!

I thought this thread said HAM

it does

The freestyle comparisons are wrong but that's okay.

*convulses while making spaghetti sauce and dancing to Company B's "Fascinated"*

some of the drum sounds on this have a freestyle sonic quality to them but they're not rhythmically freestyle at all

Company B's "Fascinated"*

Miami deep cut.

idk i think some of the tempos and grooves are pretty reminiscent of freestyle (minus the latin percussion of course, just kick/snare patterns). or just uptempo '80s pop.

plus a lot of the little off beat syncopated percussion and synth parts. but yeah, it's more like the later, more mainstream pop that was freestyle influenced. I don't think it really sounds like that fleetwood mac record though. they do sound like FM in a general way but not like they took that particular album as a template to ripoff like some people are suggesting.

I think it's a mark of how singular the rhythmic approach is that everyone hears it and immediately thinks of a patch of years in the mid-late 80s, but then struggles to come up with a really close blueprint!

Which is not to say that Haim have done something new, but rather that in this regard the retro-mining is very precise.

Phil's "Don't Lose My Number"?

I get a Bangles vibe too (from the rhythms, though obv the vocals too to some extent) but when I go back and check none of the Bangles' tunes were riding quite the same vibe.

yeah, bangles def

they weren't quite rhythmically creative

The resemblance is a stretch but when "Edge" is playing I keep singing the Georgian song from this year's Eurovision over it.

The too-brief lift-off section of "Honey & I" is amazing.

Watching their itunes festival concert and feeling good.

My guess is that this isn't really down to the influence of any one band per se and more to do with them having watched a shitload of 80s movies at some point.

Maybe two thirds of the songs here are credit-rollers.

I find this happens a lot when discussing 80s-influenced bands. They're stuffed with signifiers of the 80s but it's hard to pin them down to one particular band. Even though If I Could Change Your Mind sounds very derivative to me I can't place what it's derivative of. I think for young bands, all of these 80s records they've heard have merged so the result sounds "80s" more than it sounds like any one artist. Which is why reviews tend to resort to vague catch-alls like "John Hughes soundtrack".

And I see that Matt's just made the same point but shorter.

There's a little bit of Kim Wilde in this too.

If I Could Change Your Mind sounds a bit like 80's Heart meets the "don't look back, you can never look back" bit from Boys of Summer (Heart obviously being another bunch of sisters channeling Fleetwood Mac).

I thought Heart when I saw Haim at Glastonbury but couldn't say exactly why.