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I'll see how it settles in, I don't really feel like the songs are better, I reckon the El Perro Del Mar record is better than this, but I may just be incapable of liking a record I feel like I'll hear at every social occasion ever for god... three to four weeks at least.

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Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:20 (twelve years ago)

This is nothing like El Perro Del Mar though.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:26 (twelve years ago)

I love that El Perro Del Mar record but it's going for a very different atmosphere, more hazy, more horizontal, kind of Balearic Julee Cruise vibe. There are similarities in the source material but the treatment is completely different to any Lissvik produced project really, the Haim album is a straight-up pop record.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:28 (twelve years ago)

Yeah these are proper, sturdy, radio-friendly pop songs, not the kind of fuzzy platonic-ideal pop that the Balearic crew produce.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:30 (twelve years ago)

i mean the 2009 epdm btw, more than pale fire.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:30 (twelve years ago)

I just feel like the rhythmic approach is very different to say Lissvik productions. I described it elsewhere as "all these nervous, stuttery 1987 grooves slowly unfurling and building momentum like a colt learning how to run for the first time."

The difference is that there is not really much if any disco (or synth-pop) in Haim's arrangements.

It's definitely the XX debut or Bloom of 2013, I'll grant you that.

Tim F, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:31 (twelve years ago)

Yeah 'Love Is Not Pop' was the EPDM I was thinking of, as far as I can remember it's the only one I've heard.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:42 (twelve years ago)

The Collapseboard review is astonishingly, bar-raisingly bad.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:48 (twelve years ago)

Rockist agonistes

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:48 (twelve years ago)

I'll leave you to repost it on worst music writing ever thread then

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 10:54 (twelve years ago)

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the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 11:00 (twelve years ago)

Not even that polished, the way the drums rudely burst in at the beginning and the end of Forever.

FWIW I really hate the post-Soft Bulletin trend of foregrounding drums like that.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, October 2, 2013 5:52 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

back when they only had an EP or so out, i always got 'forever' and 'don't save me' confused because they intro'd both songs with foregrounded drums

乒乓, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 11:50 (twelve years ago)

When people compare bands to Fleetwood Mac, nine out of ten times they mean Fleetwood Mac's drum sounds.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 13:52 (twelve years ago)

You think that's the case here?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 13:53 (twelve years ago)

Well, I think people are certainly thinking of the production quality of Tango in the Night - which is very arranged and percussion heavy - more than the songwriting.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 14:11 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYrDfpirDCQ

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 14:18 (twelve years ago)

Nope, no percussion in that one!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 15:06 (twelve years ago)

what? It's all over the place!

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 15:08 (twelve years ago)

That was a very dry joke. Dry as the drum sound.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 15:28 (twelve years ago)

I don't know what I expected this album to be but it's very pleasant

smang culture (DJP), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 15:33 (twelve years ago)

"Honey & I" feels like it's about 500 years long, though

smang culture (DJP), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 15:37 (twelve years ago)

This album isn't great bc it sounds like Tango in the night or whatever (which I haven't heard, along with a lot of the other reference points people are dropping -- I couldn't name you a Wison Phillips song, Shania? I know "Man I Feel Like a Woman") although it's a nice sound, it's great because its by leagues the catchiest set of songs I've heard this year. I think I said earlier I've barely gone hours since I first heard it without one of these songs (and every single one of them at some point) popping into my head.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:09 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, the complaints of filler I've read are dumbfounding. Every track on this album is tight as fuck.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:10 (twelve years ago)

yeah this album has hooks for days

乒乓, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:11 (twelve years ago)

I love Tango in the Night but it's patchier than this.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:11 (twelve years ago)

They're both patchy.

btw I don't think this particularly sounds like Tango. I posted "Caroline" because I thought it must be what people had in mind when comparing the two albums.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:15 (twelve years ago)

I'm pretty sure the Shania comparisons come solely from The Wire.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:18 (twelve years ago)

I don't agree with this album being patchy at all.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:19 (twelve years ago)

Really the only thing stopping this from being a lock for my AOTY is that Chance writes brilliant lyrics and they don't.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:20 (twelve years ago)

I'm eh on "Falling" and one of the ballads at the end. It's still one of the year's best.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:21 (twelve years ago)

"Let Me Go" rules pretty hard

smang culture (DJP), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:22 (twelve years ago)

I didn't really get "Falling" til I heard it on the album but now I always want to listen to it. And then I listen to the rest of the album.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:23 (twelve years ago)

btw I don't think this particularly sounds like Tango. I posted "Caroline" because I thought it must be what people had in mind when comparing the two albums.

― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, October 2, 2013 4:15 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah it's more like "Love In Store" and "Hold Me" with 1987 production.

Tim F, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:32 (twelve years ago)

"Love in Store" or "Family Man" given the Balearic treatment

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:33 (twelve years ago)

idk i think "everywhere" kinda prevails as an analog

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:40 (twelve years ago)

For some reason, Forever keeps reminding me of Time After Time. Same chord progression?

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:42 (twelve years ago)

Ha Alfred's dn makes me think of "the objections to Haim from REAL INDIE people"

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:44 (twelve years ago)

dn?

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:48 (twelve years ago)

Display name

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:49 (twelve years ago)

haha

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:51 (twelve years ago)

some of the drum sounds on this remind me of Invisible Touch era Genesis

wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)

That's otm

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:39 (twelve years ago)

kind of a dumb generalization though I guess since most '80 records tried to have phil collins sounding drums haha

wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:41 (twelve years ago)

so basically "80s drums"

wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:41 (twelve years ago)

"Tony Banks drums"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW68T84RLHw

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:48 (twelve years ago)

lol

wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:51 (twelve years ago)

I didn't even know I was nostalgic for something like this but it's taking me back to being a 9 year old listening to the Jets.

wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:02 (twelve years ago)

I watched that Genesis video, and most of the time Phil isn't even playing the drums. He's not even singing into a real microphone! What a scam. I bet they never imagine that video would be around 25 years later and that people would be checking. Shame on you, Genesis. Shame. On. You.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:03 (twelve years ago)

It's a gormless video

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:04 (twelve years ago)

what do you call that kind of '80s beat anyway (on the Haim record, not Genesis)? is it a Jam & Lewis thing?

wk, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:05 (twelve years ago)


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