Television

There he mentions the piano thing again, him taking the right hand part and RL taking the left hand. That strikes me as a v revealing piece of process trivia. Has he talked abt that before this recent spate of articles?

mm, would like that youtube link.

scroll up!

he has talked about that composition technique in regards to "venus" i think, just figuring out the interlocking guitar parts.

did an ilxor say hi to me at the Athens show? (bl0unt??) if so, sorry dude, i was kinda freaked out b/c i hadn't been in athens in 3 years & i didn't recognize you. didn't realize till after i'd walked away that it might have been someone from on here.

Excellent show, I even enjoyed the endless tuning .... "Psychotic Reaction" was not what I was expecting as an encore!

Awesome.

Wow to that encore.

Is blOunt still here on ilx?

was playing the roof of the georgia theatre last week and was soooo bummed that i was not going to see them. i dunno, the clips/recordings of the band post-Lloyd have sounded pretty solid, almost as though Verlaine is stepping up a bit more, as opposed to just letting Lloyd do the heavy lifting.

Psycho Reaction was the encore at the 2004 Irving Plaza shows

he is now known as "balls" xxp

xp they've been doing it pretty much since the beginning -- i think verlaine has said it's his favorite rock song.

ps, this 76 show has been around for a while, but this version is apparently speed corrected/remastered for what it's worth - http://dbs-repercussion.blogspot.com/2013/11/tele-vision-new-york-city-december-1977.html

1976, despite what the URL says

Thanks

Here's another clue for you all
The Georgian was balls

Richard Lloyd went to Stuyvesant? How did I not know this? Did you know, tylerw?

Or was this just a rumor started by Lester Bangs and Dave Marsh?

two shows in brooklyn thanksgiving weekend 11/29 and 11/30. Tickets on sale friday. AYEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

happy for you but also ;-( for me

Man, I'm really on the fence about trying to see them. But if Lloyd was still in the band, I wouldn't think twice about going.

I went to both Tom Verlaine Band shows at Bowery Ballroom in whenever that was (07?) and it was transcendent. This is the same group except with ficca. Think of it this way, smith and rip are the anchors now, the landscape guys; verlaine and ficca are the wildcards.

there are at least 10 youtubes up from 2013 performances to enter into evidence.

esp recommend the argentina Guiding Light.

yeah, regardless of what it's called, seeing verlaine/ficca/smith onstage together is going to be worth it

there haven't been any Television shows without Ficca, have there? certainly hope not. i would go for sure if i wasn't going there this weekend for WFMU.

i don't think Ficca has ever been absent.
nerve_pylon, I got an email a few months back from a dude who knows you, talking about tapes he might have of Television way back when...any movement on that? Let's make it happen.

let's email jon lewis on that when someth happens

;)

BTW verlaine's drummer on that last solo album and tour has since passed away. Sad. He was a big guy but did not look v old.

oh no kidding? that is a bummer.

I heard a set with Jimmy Rip the other day from around the other day presumably. Just doesn't seem to have the same hypnotic magic as the band did with Lloyd.
Could be a couple of things including being 35 years since the more hypnotic material was recorded, but I think they still had some of that when they came back in 92 and possibly the last Lloyd tour.
Shame, I should have made sure I saw them back when i had a chance to with Lloyd.

Well i have the live sets from the 70s anyway. Shame there isn't more visual footage of them from then though.

ERRATUM: the guiding light on youtube i mentioned is san francisco, not buenos aires

So I don't know how to make a playlist on youtube but yesterday I added all the videos of 2013 TV performances to my favorites list. About half are from the south american dates from this spring and half are from the dates of the last few weeks, particularly san francisco. My youtube user name is jpl725 so if you go to my favorites list these should be the first dozen or so videos you see.

cool, thanks, Jon!
listening to this new Rhys Chatham LP and there are some verrrrrry Television-y moments on the first track.

Just spent 50 minutes trying to get tickets on ticketmaster's site and now it looks like both nights are sold out ;_;

ouch!

depressed

duuuuude, no! where is the show, is it in a tiny place or something?

yeah. The new Rough Trade store in Brooklyn has a performance space. Just 300 ppl, supposedly. Became aware of that last night so we were going at it as soon as the sale went up but just got the spinning wheel of "Searching for tickets" until it was too late.

that's a bummer -- 3-2-1 til scalpers start selling 'em?

only one on craigslist so far but I would suppose so yeah

hey jon - i may have a spare for the friday. would you be interested?

hell yes (though I do hate to leave my partner in crime behind, but... hell yes). I am at joncroaker (at) g m a i l (dot) com

'92 Television show was prob the first one where i saw a lotta '70s ppl w/ gray hair

haha i am a 70s person with no hair. sent you a message, jon.

Just in case a spam filter snags me: I wrote you back in the resounding affirmative. :D

finally getting around to richard hell's book, pretty interesting stuff, though it is funny that (at least in Hell's hindsight) he and verlaine were pretty much done with each other after Television's first gig. also strange that hell has nothing good to say about richard lloyd. especially since i just listened to marquee moon yesterday and holy cow, lloyd's guitar sound remains celestial.

y'know, if i had a sore point with their show at rough trade, it was jimmy rip's slavish imitation of lloyd's sound on marquee moon. he played a tele through all kinds of pedals. really nailed the sound to a t. then when it came time to improvise, instead of lloyd's pythagorean modal whatsis, out came some bendy technique-heavy studio guitarist stuff. who's he gonna impress with that? not a house full of television fans.

yeah, some of Ripp's solos on the sydney show don't quite mesh, even though he's sticking to the basic structure of most of Lloyd's stuff. of course, I thought that occasionally when Lloyd was in the band during the 00s. He sometimes slipped into those chopsy show offy moments too. i actually liked Ripp's mid-song lead on 1880 or So.