Bjork: DEBUT vs. HOMOGENIC

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mmm. and yes that is my name.

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

; )

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

but i mean maybe that's because these days what most people hear most often is SOOOOO NOT avant-garde that to hear ANYTHING as refreshing as her stuff is like a huge occasion

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Medulla = The Dreaming
??????? = Hounds Of Love

I've got high hopes for this new one!

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Debut

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

at least the cloudbusting suite is debut

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

and i'm sorry but though they're similar, The Dreaming kicks Medulla's ass

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

My love for Medulla has nothing to do with it's 'weird'ness, really, I mean, I called Homogenic a perfect album upthread so I'm obviously not on some WEIRD BJORK = ONLY GOOD BJORK kick or whatever you're talking about, it's just my favorite for reasons I can't really explain.. sometimes Vespetine is my favorite... I think Medulla gets unfairly slept on because of the presumed "weirdness" of it when it isn't that odd of a record. Songs like "Oceania" "Where Is the Line" and "Triumph of a Heart," "Vokuro," wouldn't sound out of place on her earlier stuff, her songcraft is at it's best, and really it's just an incredibly beautiful, life-affirming album. The way people talk about you'd think it's this jarring, unlistenable record, I don't see how it's any less 'pop' than her other stuff...

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

And the soundscapes painted by the more off-kilter songs like "Oll Birtan," "Pleasure Is All Mine," "Ancestors" and "Submarine," are just stunning to me... I'm terrible at describing music so...

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

i hear ya

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

My rank would be something like:

Medulla = Vespertine > Homogenic >> Post = Selmasongs >> Debut

Medulla and Vespertine are like companion albums to me...

I feel like one of those crazy Bjork fans from the 4um lol.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

u like that twee fantastical bjork dontcha

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

remix of 'oceania' with kelis >>>> everything else on medúlla (which i pretty much love, at a distance)

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

There's nothing you can hum on Medulla, therefore it's my least favorite.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, I hear ya too.

I wasn't trying to make you fit with that cliche (like I said, not personal) but I've seen it played out far too many times now...

Medulla is -always- far easier to go back and listen to than I imagine, and the sequencing is often effective enough but somehow it just doesn't flow like it could have(?) overall. It takes a bit more effort than her other records, it's not without it's rewards though. Maybe the songcraft took a bit of a back seat to the sonics (for me) in too many places. I dunno, it IS a great album regardless!

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

oh c'mon you can hum 'Oceania' fine.

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

i can hear that too, for sure, fandango - i was listening to medulla once and thinking, this is soo great and crafty, i just wish there was a little bit more attention to the sonics

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

You can hum "Oceania"! WTF.

Debut is really nothing special when compared to any of her other albums; the only song on it I ever am in the mood to listen to is "Big Time Sensuality". Conversely, "Bachelorette" is easily one of the greatest songs ever written. So, in this comparison, Homogenic all the way.

As far as comparing all of Bjork's albums is concerned, she has never released anything as consistently great as Post. Aside from "Army Of Me", that album is perfectly conceived and sequenced.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

'army of me' is amazing though! i like pretty much everything on post but it does feel erratic, zigzagging hither and thither, not quite as coherent as anything else bjork's released. so er the opposite of dan then

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

it is kind of erratic

and i like army of me too

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

but i like how post treads the line between clean, beat-driven production and the soundscapiness of homogenic

and isobel is so cool

oh god and it has hyperballad on it

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

My fav song on Post is "Enjoy" or "The Modern Things"

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

bjork is something akin to a 21st century david bowie except more consistently engaging for my personal tastes.

― roger goodell (gear), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yes! "Enjoy" bumps-'n'-grinds!

I really do love Homogenic too; on many days "Joga" is my favorite Bjork ballad.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

on many days 'jóga' is my FAVOURITE SONG IN THE WORLD

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

i love the bump n grind

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

i know joga is like

it makes you like

crumble

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Debut > Post

it's close though, "nothing special" wtf!

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

somehow, I still don't own Debut. needless to say: Homogenic (which I still think is the best Bjork record)

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 25 January 2007 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

My fav song on Post is "Enjoy"

OTM

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 January 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

post is all about the hyperballad, all about the army of me, all about the headphones.

and hummalongability is massively overrated.

― m the g (mister the guanoman), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

hummalongability and soundscapiness are kind of opposites - there's a lot to both.

― surmounter (rra123), Friday, 26 January 2007 00:10 (nineteen years ago)

I disagree about "Debut" being nothing special compared to the rest of her solo work (though I still love you, djperry). The strings on Venus as a Boy! The "ooohs" on "Come To Me"! So many special moments.

Anyhow, I adore both, but Homogenic is ultimately more beautiful.

― Turangalila (Salvador), Friday, 26 January 2007 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hunter is one of the best opening songs on any LP I can think of. And I can think of a lot. Literally dozens.

― Petroski (petroski), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:14 (nineteen years ago)

Homogenic by a comfortable margin.

― sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 26 January 2007 05:47 (nineteen years ago)

There are literally dozens of good opening songs?!

― Zachary S (Zach S), Friday, 26 January 2007 06:01 (nineteen years ago)

homogenic has a couple of my very favourite songs by her. but debut is more consistent and stacked full of great songs.

― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

No, there are literally dozens of LPs I can think of. Take your interrobang back.

― Petroski (petroski), Saturday, 27 January 2007 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

there are 84 records

― roger goodell (gear), Saturday, 27 January 2007 00:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'm also one of those guys whose favourite Björk album is Medúlla, and to be honest, I think my love for it fits in pretty spot-on with what Fandango was saying. It really does sound like nothing else I've ever heard, and it's a sound that I keep coming back to. There are a lot of great facets to Björk's music, but here she just went all the way in creating something completely alien and fascinating and to me that makes it her best album and one of the best of the decade. I'm a big fan of Björk in general though, and I still listen to other records lots (though I haven't heard all of them, including Debut.)

― aaron d.g. (aaron d.g.), Saturday, 27 January 2007 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

there are literally dozens

this had better be an arrested development reference or i want my money back

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Saturday, 27 January 2007 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

this had better be an arrested development reference or i want my money back

Oh, shit. yeah, it probably is. I can't keep up with the kids today and their pop culture references.

― Zachary S (Zach S), Saturday, 27 January 2007 04:32 (nineteen years ago)

um... you have to hear Debut!

i now officially own Medulla so i can give it a proper listen.

― surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 27 January 2007 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

i sometimes feel like the sound of homogenic is slightly too homogenic, actually - like i wish she had changed up the texture a bit more. she did a good job of that on Post - isobel comes close to sounding like it could be on homogenic, but the soundscapes on the album at large are pretty varied.

― surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 27 January 2007 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

has there been a bjork album poll?

― plax (ico), Monday, 2 August 2010 17:53 (fifteen years ago)

three years pass...

i like that i started this thread. hi plax! i am listening to debut, so long since i put it on. it's so clean

― surm, Monday, 13 January 2014 05:31 (twelve years ago)

#BigTimeSensuality

― tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Monday, 13 January 2014 06:24 (twelve years ago)

yup. my favorite song in the 90s.

― surm, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 00:10 (twelve years ago)

nine months pass...

Debut.

http://devonrecordclub.com/2014/11/04/bjork-debut-round-73-nicks-choice/

― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 10:42 (eleven years ago)

two years pass...

how can you even pit these against each other, homogenic owns Debut.

― Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 7 October 2017 22:56 (eight years ago)

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Re-listening Vulnicura atm and Stonemilker alone is worth the price. Lionsong and History of Touches coming next confirms this is - at least for me - her most vital work since Vespertine. Maybe I should listen again to Biophilia and Fossora… don’t think I gave them much of a chance.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 24 June 2024 01:35 (one year ago)

Yeah it's chilling to think of Vulnicura as the denouement of Vespertine but in a sense it is. Bleak almost to the point of horror.

― default damager (lukas), Monday, 24 June 2024 01:45 (one year ago)

My fave song on Volta (and maybe the only keeper from it, for me) is "Vertebrae By Vertebrae", but I really like her in Scott Walker mode, and Damien Taylor's production

― frociaggine e figaggine (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 24 June 2024 02:32 (one year ago)

Re-listening Vulnicura atm and Stonemilker alone is worth the price. Lionsong and History of Touches coming next confirms this is - at least for me - her most vital work since Vespertine. Maybe I should listen again to Biophilia and Fossora… don’t think I gave them much of a chance.

The only two Bjork albums I've wanted to relisten to since Vespertine are Vulnicura and Fossora, so I'd say give that one another chance

― Vinnie, Monday, 24 June 2024 18:55 (one year ago)

It seems I am alone in this but I really love her three last albums, and Vulnicura in particular. I do find Volta and Biophilia to be a bit lacking, though; to my ears they’re like a clunky, awkward transitional phase between the first and the last decade of solo output (both fantastic in their own ways).

― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Monday, 24 June 2024 19:57 (one year ago)

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