Shania Twain's Ramones T-shirt: C/D?

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What?

― Graham (graham), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Regardless of the shirt, Shinia Twain must die before this country, and most of the states must suffer with dooot doot doot doo I Feel Like a Lady dooot dooot doo all over again! Line dancing will become acceptable and possibly popular again.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:37 (twenty-three years ago)

She looks awful in it. That's the saving grace, she looks just horrendous. She can't do anything right: everything she touches turns middle-of-the-road. I don't care how she sells, she's just waaay off base.

― matt riedl (veal), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:58 (twenty-three years ago)

It's always good to know that you're here to provide the moderate position, Mr. N.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's always good to know that you're here to provide the moderate position, Mr. N.

I never put my hand up for that job. There are a few things that push my buttons and two of them are Bluegrass and 'New Country'.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Good old Shania.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Good point, Matt -- she doesn't even look convincing, let alone good, in it. Ick!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)

At the very least, you're not as extreme as someone else I know (who may be reading this) who always used to say about musical artists he particularly disliked: "xxxxxx needs to die horribly in a fire." I don't know whether that would apply to Shania here; if he's reading this maybe he could confirm this fact if he feels like being that extreme on a public forum.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Manservant Hecubus brings to the table:
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc100/c102/c10260v8ulq.jpg http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/pic200_web/drp100/p174/p17487bo9ca.jpg
EVIL!

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Next thing you know, Faith Hill will be taping a scrap of a Sex Pistols t-shirt across her nipples to one-up Shania.

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Don't you mean "ribs", Nicole? Faith is so emaciated I wouldn't be surprised if her body had ingested its own nipples for sustenance.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:33 (twenty-three years ago)

mr noodles are you going to see racebannon in hamilton - they are playing the underground (hamilton, the only place where you can go christmas shopping and watch people sniff glue openly - oh the freedom. momus would get his ass kicked in hamilton within seconds, though, he would appreciate the decadence destruction).

i miss hamilton. it was more surreal than london!

― doom-e, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:44 (twenty-three years ago)

it would be cool if shania played the crazy injun bar - the only place wehre i walked by twice at two in hte morning on seperate occassions to see a beer bottle flinging it's way out of the front plate glass window and somebody stumbling out holding their bloodied head and calling me faggot.

(may i remark, this was on two seperate occassions)

oh....i'm getting homesick now!

― doom-e, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:48 (twenty-three years ago)

if shania came stumbling out of the crazy injun wearing the ramones t-shirt, or it was shredded because she was in a cat fight at the crazy injun, you would be saying a different story!

― doom-e, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:52 (twenty-three years ago)

she could have been attacked during her encore of snowbird at the crazy injun ... well ... you never know, the rips of the t-shirt might be real!

― doom-e, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Judging by the background of that picture, she's still in Switzerland, so I doubt that very much.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't care either way because the ramones were shit.

here's hoping she wears a radiohead t-shirt next.

Canada unfortunately seems to have quite a few ramones fans. pity.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Eh, that picture's anti-climatic; I thought it would be a Ramones t-shirt, with the band and all, but it's just the symbol- no reason to get all worked up about THAT, she pro'lly has no idea who the band are and just thought it was a nifty logo. Which it is.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:54 (twenty-three years ago)

oh the freedom. momus would get his ass kicked in hamilton within seconds, though, he would appreciate the decadence destruction).

If Brian Eno can record an album in Hamilton so could Momus. The eye patch would just be an assumed over eager Ti Cats fan injury.

racebannon in hamilton

Well now that I am without access to a car, no.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 18:12 (twenty-three years ago)

That picture is hottt. Classic!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 21:23 (twenty-three years ago)

I think Faith Hill looks nice.

― jm, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 22:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If Brian Eno can record an album in Hamilton so could Momus. The eye patch would just be an assumed over eager Ti Cats fan injury.

true, true, if only we could keep him away from crazy deals (with appropriate backwards z) and buying a sparkly eye patch.

Momus: Why, this eye patch is fantastical, I shall busk my new song, in celebration *singing* 'My eyepatch is a penis...OOOoOOOOooOOOoOO....'

TiCat Fan: Faggot.....*punches Momus in the eye*

Momus: I am Marquis de sade and will come over your town in sweet revenge.

I still like the idea that the t-shirt was ripped up in a bar brawl in hamilton ....

― doom-e, Wednesday, 13 November 2002 07:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Hold up - erase all my previous posts. I forgot, I LOVE IT when Sean gets cranky! I should be encouraging him. Boo Shania - you acid-wash Zellers brand wench you! Boo!

― Kim (Kim), Thursday, 14 November 2002 02:56 (twenty-three years ago)

That picture is hottt. Classic!

You're a sick man, Sterling.

Dan's comment is far too evil to be allowed to live. I love it that much. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 November 2002 09:30 (twenty-three years ago)

gets cranky?

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 14 November 2002 14:21 (twenty-three years ago)

isn't the smokestack in sudbury the tallest in the world? they have a neutrino detecter there as well.

― keith (keithmcl), Thursday, 14 November 2002 18:08 (twenty-three years ago)

They also have the largest nickel. But Timmins has jack.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 14 November 2002 18:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Let this thread be our standard, our pennant.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 14 November 2002 19:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Least none of us have been inquiring about her wooden leg.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 14 November 2002 19:05 (twenty-three years ago)

two months pass...

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― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 17 January 2003 02:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh yes she does.

http://www.lastplanetojakarta.com/shania.jpg

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 17 January 2003 03:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Now at last the truth comes out.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 03:54 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.an-irrational-domain.net/images/jaz/jaz86scream.jpg

YOU DIE NOW, NED RAGGETT!!!!!

― Jaz Coleman, Friday, 17 January 2003 04:10 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd bet everything I own that Shania wasn't a Ramones fan growing up, but its entirely possible that she discovered them later in life - either by herself, through her husband or other industry friends. Its reasonable to assume that musicians (in her case I use the term lightly) like a variety of music and probably look for stuff far removed from what they do. A good friend of mine is in a metal band and he's come to equate metal with work so when he's at home he barely listens to anything even close to metal sounding.

Its also equally possible that a wardrobe consultant said "Wear this, its cool." I suspect this might be true because of the location these adds appeared in...they were targeted to specific areas (in Toronto atleast) and weren't used (that I've seen) outside of the once punk rock now trendy yet fashionable Queen Street West area of town and at the various subway stops near U of T.

I seriously doubt that its an attempt to win over young Ramones fans, but it could appeal to an older person who stopped following music years ago...the shirt reminding them of their youth, while Shania presenting the 'now'. Its the kinda of thing that could sucker 35-40 year olds who stopped buying albums years ago into re-entering the music buying market. "Shania likes the Ramones? So did I when I was young...maybe I'll give her another listen." Let's face it, atleast 50% (minimum!) of her audience is made up of people who never would have considered buying a country album before she came out.

Wow, I've put way too much thought and effort into Shania and her shirt.

― CretanBull (CretanBull), Friday, 17 January 2003 06:49 (twenty-three years ago)

welcome to ILM, CretanBull!

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 17 January 2003 07:52 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.an-irrational-domain.net/images/jaz/jaz140.JPG

I'LL HAVE YOUR HEAD FOR THIS, JOhn DARLELLE

― Jaz Raving Mad Coleman (vassifer), Friday, 17 January 2003 08:18 (twenty-three years ago)

SHnia TwAin iz prrty

― Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Friday, 17 January 2003 08:33 (twenty-three years ago)

welcome to ILM, CretanBull!

Why thank you :o) I kinda dove right in and haven't introduced myself yet....I think there's a thread for that!

― CretanBull (CretanBull), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:13 (twenty-three years ago)

So Alex, that first picture -- that is Alice Cooper with a haircut, yes? ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Is it too late for Shania to do "Fall of Because" mix of her new album where the choruses all suddenly become crunchy-guitar/tribal-drum throwdowns? let's hope not

― J0hn Darn13ll3 (J0hn Darn13ll3), Friday, 17 January 2003 19:39 (twenty-three years ago)

You know, it's not like it's her Ramones shirt, just like Justin Timberland didn't really own that MC5 shirt he was wearing on the VIBE cover. Photo shoot fashion advisors are to blame.

― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 18 January 2003 00:44 (twenty-three years ago)

what about that smut from atomic kitten and her velvet underground t shirt? (sorry if someone already mentioned it, but my attention span won't let me read an entire thread about shania twain's ramones t shirt)

― di smith (lucylurex), Saturday, 18 January 2003 08:10 (twenty-three years ago)

http://images.mp3.com/rollingstone/content/2875/Images/00316884.jpg
..I have nothing against Shania as a pop singer, but why was she photographed at CBGB? What's the connection/relevance ?

― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 20 January 2003 13:29 (twenty-three years ago)

(although if I recall correctly someone else here once posted about Madonna wearing some heavy metal t-shirt...Motorhead, I think). See, I remember seeing one of the Indigo Girls wearing a Husker Du T back in the day and I didn't mind that at all.
Madonna wearing Motorhead == Calculated and deliberate.
Indigo Girls Wearing Husker Du == Completely acceptable. Some gut instinct tells me that the Indigo Girls actually DU listen to Husker Du, and they probably bought the T-shirt themselves with their own money when they went to a Husker Du concert.
Madonna/Twain, on the other hand, probably told one of her handlers to go out and find her a T-shirt that was "counter-intuitive"

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Monday, 20 January 2003 15:38 (twenty-three years ago)

The basic stupidity on this endless thread is the assumption that people who make music can only like music similar to the stuff they make. If I made music it would probably end up as scratchy glitchy indie-tronica - that would not mean I liked Missy Elliot or Sugababes any less because they sounded nothing like that.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 20 January 2003 15:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, but what T-shirt would you wear to your Photo-ops!?

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Monday, 20 January 2003 15:47 (twenty-three years ago)

An enormous potato sack.

People wear clothes to express themselves and send messages and maybe surprise people shockah!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 20 January 2003 15:51 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think it's an issue of musicians only being able to like music similar to their own, Tom. Shania has admitted in interviews that she used to listen to a radio station growing up where they played country, pop and rock side by side, because the town was so small that they could only manage one radio station (or something like that). I know that kind of environment totally, because I grew up in a town just like that, where you'd hear Glen Campbell followed by, oh, Thin Lizzy. So there's no doubt in my mind that Shania's love of music other than what she started out (pretty standard country pop) is real.

I think my basic gripe here (and my position has been softened quite a bit since my initial reaction and post, because someone pointed out to me that Shania wearing a punk band's t-shirt pissing me off basically = punk, because punk is supposed to piss people off, right?) is that there's a real disconnection between Shania Twain and the Ramones, and that yes, it does seem hyper-calculated. That AC/DC shirt above I can definitely see with her small-town background (oh and the fact that her husband produced the album in question on the shirt). I have no problem with Shania liking things other than her own genre, but there's still something about this that smacks of image consultant or desperate cred-grabbing.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 20 January 2003 15:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah but Tom be that as it may (i.e. I don't expect a guy wearing a Black Flag T-shirt to necessarily have a mohawk, blow snot rockets at passers-by, etc) you know as well as everybody else that the likelihood of Shania/Madonna/name-yr-giant-pop-icon picking their own clothes for their photoshoot = very near zero, and discussing what photographers/designers are trying to convey by (for example) putting Shania in the dressing room of CBGG's = fair game, no?

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 20 January 2003 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)

I would love to be proven wrong, by the way, and have Shania tell us exactly how much she loves the Ramones. Shania to thread!

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 20 January 2003 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)

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rorschach's journal - may 8th, 2014: counter clerk at rick's mkt off rt 2 wearing a misfits t shirt w/ her marlboro visor. snorted derisively & took my patronage elsewhere.

― katsu kittens (contenderizer), Monday, 19 May 2014 02:55 (twelve years ago)

lol

― some dude, Monday, 19 May 2014 03:00 (twelve years ago)

hahaha

― balls, Monday, 19 May 2014 03:08 (twelve years ago)

eleven years pass...

Robbie Williams with a Misfits battle jacket. He’s also wearing a Milli Vanilli tee so covering all bases,

It’s all good though as Tony Iommi rocks hard on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfAFBOECxw4

― Dan Worsley, Friday, 30 May 2025 19:34 (one year ago)

From the original post: "It's probably the most jarring example I know of an artist wearing a t-shirt in such a calculated way..."

True then, for sure. Today, like drawing breath.

― clemenza, Friday, 30 May 2025 22:09 (one year ago)

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