well if you wanna like post-dylan cobblers then fine mista perry.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 7 November 2003 16:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 7 November 2003 16:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 7 November 2003 16:22 (twenty years ago) link
You know the person at work who *always* comes out with the most *obvious* jokes, always parrots the standard line on the issue of day, always gives you 'fun' advice like 'don't do anything *I* wouldn't do'? They're not hateful, quite amiable even, but ultimately.....you'd rather do anything than have to converse with them. Well that's the Charlatans. Standard issue. Ordinary. Does What It Says On The Tin. Fuck them.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 7 November 2003 16:52 (twenty years ago) link
the Charlatans are nothing like that Dr C, you're thinking of Travis or Athlete perhaps.
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 7 November 2003 17:03 (twenty years ago) link
ah re-assurance and reliability...
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 7 November 2003 17:05 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 7 November 2003 17:06 (twenty years ago) link
This is a context/ubiquity issue, isn't it? The Charlatans were never shoved down our throats over here and we weren't inundated with 800 bands doing the same thing unless we wanted to be, ergo some of us in the US have developed very different attitudes towards "the obvious targets".
Also, I think I can count the number of Happy Mondays album tracks that I've liked on two fingers, only I don't actually have any recollection of them. For a good long while Primal Scream and Happy Mondays were duking it out for Most Overrated Singles Band In The UK in my mind, but then I realized that outside of "Slip Inside This House" I thought that _Screamadelica_-era PS was irredeemable shit across the board.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 November 2003 17:06 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 7 November 2003 17:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:09 (twenty years ago) link
the one charlatans fan i met was a very nice guy. he liked ocean colour scene, paul weller and so on but i conversed with him though i lost touch after college...for me its not to do with the fans but the music just relies so much on that organ and i never feel the others are contributing too much to the sound (this is from listening to a handful of singles, which after listening to them neevr encouraged me to go any further with it).
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:24 (twenty years ago) link
No, I'm thinking of the Charlatans.
I think it is a context thing, Dan, but not an ubiquity thing. Certainly a very useless thing.I mean they're not vile like Primal Scream, they're just not....anything. A bit baggy, a bit Roses-y THEN whooo! Timmy discovers Blonde on Blonde and Sticky Fingers and we get a youth club version of The fucking Rolling Stones fronted by Booby Zimmertwat. I mean did we ever need them? Why aren't people more fucking critical? They didn't even come from Manchester properly. Hell - even the Inspiral Carpets were better.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 November 2003 21:25 (twenty years ago) link
It's my way of weeding out the wheat from the chaff. The 'classic or dud' conundrum is how I have always viewed music. Snap decisions, good or bad, in or out. I don't want 'average'. I'll come down harder on 'average' than 'crap'. It's just my way - it's of no importance what I think anyway.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Saturday, 8 November 2003 13:36 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 8 November 2003 15:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Sunday, 9 November 2003 20:22 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 9 November 2003 20:38 (twenty years ago) link
― turkey (turkey), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 02:03 (twenty years ago) link
― keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 08:15 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 03:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 04:11 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 09:09 (twenty years ago) link
― MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 29 August 2004 11:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 March 2005 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 March 2005 00:05 (nineteen years ago) link
I was at an upscale bar tonight that I didn't willfully choose to be in with some people I wasn't particularly interested in knowing and I managed to identify after a long period of thought that the song I heard played over the PA in there was one of their absolutely classic b-sides "Occupation H. Monster". Unbelievable. Thank goodness it was finally released on CD years later in the US otherwise...
― Bimble, Friday, 13 July 2007 05:59 (seventeen years ago) link
theme from the wish!
― f. hazel, Friday, 13 July 2007 08:41 (seventeen years ago) link
I did hear "Weirdo" a couple of weeks ago and felt inexplicably happy.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 July 2007 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link
Up To Our Hips sounds awfully fresh lately. I think I underrated it upthread.
― dlp9001, Friday, 13 July 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link
'flower' is a terrific song
― Charlie Howard, Friday, 13 July 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link
Do you know why I don't have the Some Friendly album anymore? BECAUSE I AM A DUMBASS, that's why!
― Bimble, Saturday, 14 July 2007 05:34 (seventeen years ago) link
No! I'm wrong! I just found it in my CD stacks!!!!! WOOOHOO! POLAR BEAR IS FIRST!!
― Bimble, Saturday, 14 July 2007 05:35 (seventeen years ago) link
Charlie Howard is OTM.
― HI DERE, Saturday, 14 July 2007 13:07 (seventeen years ago) link
Whoa
Download the new Charlatans album for free
― Davey D, Monday, 3 March 2008 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Yikes, four songs in and feeling like this is gonna be worse than Simpatico.
― Davey D, Monday, 3 March 2008 19:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Ned you promised to change Norwich to Northwich 5 years ago. sorry to nag and all that :-)
― Thomas, Monday, 3 March 2008 20:03 (sixteen years ago) link
It's a shame the Charlatans haven't produced a truly great album - or at least one that is worthy of the accolade and reissue treatment that some of their 90s contemporaries have received.
But as others have said, they were more than just a good singles band. Most of their albums are patchy but have more good tunes on them than just the single releases.
Can't imagine there's much inspiration left in them now...but always good fun live
― Toucan3000, Monday, 3 March 2008 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link
This album isn't bad at all, though it doesn't much sound like any particular band (i.e. it's a little bit genericly "English" sounding). Was worth the download, and includes a couple of semi-memorable tracks.
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link
I came to the realization a couple albums ago that The Charlatans haven't been any good at all since Rob Collins died. I don't know if that's a causal link, but it definitely makes sense.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't think anyone is going to agree, but I find myself playing "You Cross My Path" with surprising frequency. It's not great or anything, but is pretty solid all the way through and makes for a good default play when I'm sick of all my usual favorites. Faint praise maybe, but the play count is mounting. Possibly the closest to classic rock (in terms of consistency, etc.) that I've been able to find of late. Definitely a lot of New Order in the genes.
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link
So I'm utterly burned out on the whole "play your album complete" schtick, but I'd would like really like to see this one.
The Charlatans have announced they will play their debut album Some Friendly in its entirety later this year.The band will perform at The Roundhouse on May 31 to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the LP's release.Tickets will be available from February 5.
The band will perform at The Roundhouse on May 31 to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the LP's release.
Tickets will be available from February 5.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link
man I love Some Friendly a lot
― Damn these skinny jeans' pockets. (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Like, there are some obviously awesome songs here (the singles, "Sproston Green"), and then there are tracks like "Opportunity" and "Flower" that just sneak up on me with awesomeness every time I come back to them.
― Damn these skinny jeans' pockets. (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Most of the time you are happy – you're a weirdo.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Like the earliest two, LOVE the middle three, HATE everything that came after those.
I came to the realization a couple albums ago that The Charlatans haven't been any good at all since Rob Collins died. I don't know if that's a causal link, but it definitely makes sense.― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, March 4, 2008 3:16 PM (2 years ago)
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, March 4, 2008 3:16 PM (2 years ago)
I still stand by this.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
I think they were good through Up To Our Hips, then they went shit.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link
But I absolutely love the first 2 albums.
The Charlatans are definitely obscure in Centennial, CO hell it's obscure here in the Los Angeles area.
They were obscure even when Tim Burgess was living here and DJ'ing at Goldfinger's every week!
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 24 February 2024 06:52 (six months ago) link
i saw them here about year ago with ride, they were p good. he looked great, pretty spry. not sure who was there for which band, but show seemed v well attended.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 24 February 2024 15:23 (six months ago) link
Funny, “The Only One I Know” just popped up on one of my Spotify mixes today. Guess they’re in the air.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 February 2024 21:07 (six months ago) link
These guys were a damn good band. Listening to the self titled (a big teen fave of mine) a lot lately. Tellin' Stories is really good too.
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Sunday, 21 April 2024 01:00 (five months ago) link
Telling Stories is GREAT, such a badass rhythm section
― brimstead, Sunday, 21 April 2024 15:45 (five months ago) link