I was in a convo with HR
― velko, Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:45 (twelve years ago)
you didn't answer the question
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:58 (twelve years ago)
hell, Mick wouldn't do anything without Charlie either. What's striking about every interview of the last 30 years is how Keef and Mick maneuver to make Charlie their foil.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, September 27, 2013 9:17 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Charlie calls the shots more than most would expect. He pretty much determines when and for how long they'll tour. He doesn't enjoy it (apart from the actual performing), so he'll set conditions that he thinks won't/can't be met, and then they are (e.g., only playing x number of shows, being personally guaranteed $x million). And they left the choice of Wyman replacement entirely in Charlie's hands.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 28 September 2013 03:57 (twelve years ago)
I find Visions quite strange. Most of it is pretty good but the flaws really suck the life out of it. Take the call-and-response bridges: when they're on a minor chord they're fine, but the major chord is obvious and corny; the lead vocal is fine but gets beached on that stupid stuttery rhythm, the rhythm under the response vocal brings the momentum back, but the response vocal itself is so weak. The overall effect is simply lame.
The guitars are back to sounding great, though the whole structure is a mess so the solos and licks sound dropped in at random instead of taking flight. The intro is good, perhaps because structure isn't a problem there; I like the wag rhyt wander from centre-to-left to make room for the entering lead. The ending is nonsensical though - it's like they heard a Zeppelin record, thought 'we can be like that', then stole completely the wrong bit.
The drums are rubbish. There's a crash on every possible accent, and the turnaround(? idk what else to call it - there's one at 2:28-9) kills the bridge at birth - it's like a dog running away from a post it's tied to.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 September 2013 11:59 (twelve years ago)
Howard asked Don about the chicks he was banging back when they were really big. Don said that he used to go to parties where they had tons of women, from wall to wall, just wanting to meet them. Howard asked how long he resisted that stuff. Don said he had a lot of guilt when he was doing it and it was very tough for him
ugh this guy
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 September 2013 12:17 (twelve years ago)
Wait, that'd be Felder not Henley? Too easy to imagine Henley contriving that situation then whining about it.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 September 2013 12:20 (twelve years ago)
"After The Thrill Is Gone"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/eaglesOOTNSB04.jpg
http://youtu.be/sYi4vYBIh1k
― scott seward, Saturday, 28 September 2013 12:28 (twelve years ago)
Don: We'd wear these funny masks and glasses yet the chicks were unstoppable, man. They couldn't leave us alone.
Glenn: It WAS great pussy.
Don: Well, yeah.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 September 2013 12:31 (twelve years ago)
Felder: Noooooooo!!!!!!!!
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Saturday, 28 September 2013 12:37 (twelve years ago)
I know this is maudlin levels of cheese but I really like this one
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 14:03 (twelve years ago)
Adequate album filler i guess. The lyrics don't jibe with the real lives of the guys who wrote it.
― Lee626, Saturday, 28 September 2013 17:57 (twelve years ago)
BTW, how the f do you pronounce "Szymczyk"?
― Lee626, Saturday, 28 September 2013 17:59 (twelve years ago)
i bet it's like simcheck/zimchik or similar?
― Untt (La Lechera), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:00 (twelve years ago)
I think it should be Su-zim-chik, by my rudimentary Polish, but American rules (or indeed Polish ones) may be different
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:03 (twelve years ago)
there are no american rules outside of "you must chug all night"
― Untt (La Lechera), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:05 (twelve years ago)
No wait, might be shim-chik
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:05 (twelve years ago)
The group (or their people) must like this song--it was the one pre-Walsh track added to pad out Hits II. On listening, it sounds like a forecast of where they wanted to go--less oountry, more Pop/lite R & sensitive world-weary lyrics--and where Henley landed in the solo years. Nice guitar solo, but overall this doesn't stick to the ribs.
CC:
AFTER THE THRILL IS GONEDON: “After The Thrill Is Gone” is something of an overlooked song that I think is very good. It’s me and Glenn, working together. He did the verses with a little help from me. I did the bridge. As exciting as the whole Eagles thing was at times, some of the luster was beginning to wear off. We were combining our personal and professional lives in song.GLENN: It’s a sleeper. That record is a lot of self-examination, hopefully not too much. There was a lot of double-meaning and a lot of irony. “Any kind of love without passion/Well, that ain’t no kind of lovin’ at all…” — pure Henley.
GLENN: It’s a sleeper. That record is a lot of self-examination, hopefully not too much. There was a lot of double-meaning and a lot of irony. “Any kind of love without passion/Well, that ain’t no kind of lovin’ at all…” — pure Henley.
Wasn't "Pure Henley' a real sweet strain of uncut pseudo-intellectual flake?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:07 (twelve years ago)
That record is a lot of self-examination, hopefully not too much
pure Frey
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:13 (twelve years ago)
Wasn't 'Pure Frey' room temperature Schiltz & a bong hit?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:15 (twelve years ago)
We do indeed need to determine the true essence of each Eagle before this thread is done
― Lee626, Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:19 (twelve years ago)
pure Henley = like eating a tablespoon of cocoa powder
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:30 (twelve years ago)
lol
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:48 (twelve years ago)
DON: We were still writin' good songs.
GLENN: We were still fucking some great pussy.
DON: Well, yeah.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:50 (twelve years ago)
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:05 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I thought so too, but I've only heard it pronounced (by Pete Townshend and John Entwistle) "sim-zik."
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 28 September 2013 19:02 (twelve years ago)
http://i.snag.gy/iuxvh.jpg
― pplains, Saturday, 28 September 2013 19:10 (twelve years ago)
"I gave you seven Eagles, and now you want to give them back!"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 28 September 2013 19:18 (twelve years ago)
and whoa at how this guy turned out.
http://stmedia.startribune.com/images/523*328/04eagles091913.jpg
― pplains, Saturday, 28 September 2013 19:31 (twelve years ago)
jesus christ Hitchens was angry the last year of his life
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 September 2013 19:32 (twelve years ago)
Pure Henley
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cGTCZQfXKWA/TeUADA2woFI/AAAAAAAAEhw/krv7lGoR7qw/s1600/CountryBearsHenley.jpg
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:12 (twelve years ago)
context, if you are a buzzkill http://thisdayineagleshistory.blogspot.com/2011/07/2002-movie-country-bears-featuring-don.html
Also I stumbled on this which is kinda lol but mostly sad
..."I've heard the rumors about Glenn (Frey) and Don (Henley) being jerks, but I always thought that was just coming from people who are jealous of their wealth and fame. I guess I was wrong," says Lyle Givant, who's seen the band in concert "at least 20 times" over the last four decades. "Frey and Henley come across as two guys who have zero regret over how badly they've treated people over the years. It was hard for me to watch this documentary at times because I've loved the band for so long. I'm sure it wasn't the director's intention, but she made Frey and Henley look pretty bad. They clearly still live by the motto that the end justifies the means. If it's supposedly good for the band, screw it if people get hurt."
http://therenodispatch.blogspot.com/2013/02/exclusive-eagles-fans-angered-by-new.html
BREAKING NEWS: HENLEY AND FREY - IT IS SAD, THEY WERE DOUCHEBAGS
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:19 (twelve years ago)
There's a special place in hell for Glenn Frey. Always has been. He can check out any time he likes, but he can never leave.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:24 (twelve years ago)
he's just a victim of love
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:37 (twelve years ago)
it's a losing propositionbut one you can't refuseit's the politics of contrabandit's the chugglers blues
― balls, Sunday, 29 September 2013 00:25 (twelve years ago)
Who's got the bigger reservation in Hell: Frey or Mike Love? I say the former, 'cause the man needs his hats and weirdos.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 September 2013 03:05 (twelve years ago)
Man, say what you will about Mike Love but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRwPhBLh3hs
― pplains, Sunday, 29 September 2013 03:10 (twelve years ago)
mike love is farm league compared those these 2 clowns
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 29 September 2013 03:21 (twelve years ago)
I dunno the Beach Boys universe is so fucked and tragic compared to a bunch of vapid dicks being dicks to each other.
Murray Wilson is rotting in hell and Frey and Henley don't compare to all that sad wreckage... And I'm not even close, I would hand w Frey or Henley way over Mike Love
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 29 September 2013 03:38 (twelve years ago)
TS: TM or Walden's Pond (TM)
― pplains, Sunday, 29 September 2013 04:03 (twelve years ago)
TS:TM or Chugging all nite (toss up)
Mike beat Glenn to Chug by nine years: http://youtu.be/rDY02aGBTfg
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 September 2013 04:31 (twelve years ago)
I like After The Thrill Is Gone; nice guitars, good bass, good tune, reasonable singing. It's not a-grade eagles, but it's high b-grade and that's rare enough to still be a treat.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 September 2013 07:56 (twelve years ago)
"I Wish You Peace"
http://www.bernieleadononline.com/images/BLeadonOOTNSB.jpg
http://youtu.be/aVoOk68T1SI
― scott seward, Sunday, 29 September 2013 12:33 (twelve years ago)
farewell, brave cosmic banjo man...
― scott seward, Sunday, 29 September 2013 12:34 (twelve years ago)
co-written with Reagan's daughter, ladies and gentlemen
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 September 2013 12:34 (twelve years ago)
ah,Bernie, this is how you leave us? not with oddball stuff like "Bitter Creek" and "Sorcerer" but a collaboration w/ Patti Davis? Aptly described by Henley as "smarmy cocktail music"?
― col, Sunday, 29 September 2013 12:57 (twelve years ago)
Agreeable smarm, nowhere near eagles reunion album smarm, but yeah. The sorcerer is not in for this one.
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 29 September 2013 13:54 (twelve years ago)
Syrupy to be sure, but after two minutes I thought it was a nice little coda to the album. Then it just kept going into noodlesville.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 29 September 2013 14:14 (twelve years ago)
Bernie threw us some nice curves, including this one, but yeah this should have been cut at 2:06.
― Lee626, Sunday, 29 September 2013 15:02 (twelve years ago)
^ This is nice enough; would've been boring for a band who put out actual lounge classics, but The Eagles are not that band. Actually, for a sleazy seventies act, there's not much Rhodes piano on their records, good to have one holding this track together.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 September 2013 15:07 (twelve years ago)