A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

http://www.marksfriggin.com/news08/7-14.htm#thu

Howard asked Don why they got rid of him if he was capable of writing such a great song. Don said that when the band was first formed the guys had all agreed to be equal members in it. He said that it was still going on when he joined the band. He said that they created the band as a 5 way membership so they all got equal shares. He said that as time went by and the main songs got to be hits, Henley and Frey felt they were more entitled to the money coming in. Don said that he talked to his manager about that and the trouble started in the 90s when he started asking questions. He said that he was only a 1/3 owner at that time because some of the other guys had left the band by then.

Don said that the other guys became demons and they took away the fun from the band. Don said that even Glenn Frey and Don Henley were fighting with each other. They were concealing a lot of anger and hate for each other. Howard wondered what could be so bad that they'd hate each other.

Gary came in and said that he read the book so he has a good idea about it. He said that he thinks that Don Henley became a song writing machine and even Glenn Frey's songs weren't good enough for the band and that's why there was so much hate between them. Don told Gary that was very well put.

Howard asked Don if he ever had any doubts about writing the book. Don said that he didn't really. Howard asked Don about the chicks he was banging back when they were really big. Don said that he used to go to parties where they had tons of women, from wall to wall, just wanting to meet them. Howard asked how long he resisted that stuff. Don said he had a lot of guilt when he was doing it and it was very tough for him. He said that they had nothing to do when they weren't on stage so they were doing drugs, drinking and stuff like that.

Howard said that Joe Walsh isn't even a full partner in the Eagles but he must be getting paid well. Don said that's true. He said that he's surprised by that because Joe helped give them that rock and roll image too. Don said that he and Joe would dance around and have fun during some of the songs and Don Henley used to get upset about that so they had to put an end to it. Don said that drove him nuts. He said that he was reprimanded for wearing the wrong color shoes on stage one night.

Per Felder, the even steven Eagles Inc. five way split was written up in legally binding form. Pretty brazen, if so, that Azoff, Henley and Frey went ahead and just froze him out later on. But then, Felder did win his settlement.

that Walsh & Felder were cut out of a bigger share despite tangibly contributing to who the Eagles *became* soundwise just drives me insane.

An agreement's an agreement, so I definitely take Felder's side.

But let's get one thing straight, as far as the Eagles in the year 2013 A.D. are concerned - Felder's the Mick Taylor of the band. No one's ponying up $250 a ticket to hear him play Hotel California. Like God Himself, Don and Glenn were there in the beginning and they're the ones still running the show today. No one outside those of us who came to this thread today or watched "Heavy Metal" on a VHS tape recorded at SLP even know what Felder sounds like, much less what he ought to be paid.

*kicks dirt*

yeah

you're right

If only the Eagles had a Charlie Watts to punch the shit out of whoever their Mick Jagger is...

lol

charlie could hit mick though cuz mick knew that keith wouldn't do anything without charlie. charlie had keith's protection. its all very complicated. eagles had two bullies and some weak hired hands and a completely drunk joe walsh. the bullies ran the show.

hell, Mick wouldn't do anything without Charlie either. What's striking about every interview of the last 30 years is how Keef and Mick maneuver to make Charlie their foil.

It does give me a good imagined scene of Henley punching his own lights out, eating his own lunch all by himself.

More cymbal weirdness. Vocals buried in the mix. Forgettable song, but like the slow guitar fade.

It had me interested for a moment until that 'visions of you' line happened and then I was like uggggh this is terrible

Just heard lyin eyes on the office music feed

did you close your eyes and sing loudly

I was in a convo with HR

you didn't answer the question

hell, Mick wouldn't do anything without Charlie either. What's striking about every interview of the last 30 years is how Keef and Mick maneuver to make Charlie their foil.

― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, September 27, 2013 9:17 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Charlie calls the shots more than most would expect. He pretty much determines when and for how long they'll tour. He doesn't enjoy it (apart from the actual performing), so he'll set conditions that he thinks won't/can't be met, and then they are (e.g., only playing x number of shows, being personally guaranteed $x million). And they left the choice of Wyman replacement entirely in Charlie's hands.

I find Visions quite strange. Most of it is pretty good but the flaws really suck the life out of it. Take the call-and-response bridges: when they're on a minor chord they're fine, but the major chord is obvious and corny; the lead vocal is fine but gets beached on that stupid stuttery rhythm, the rhythm under the response vocal brings the momentum back, but the response vocal itself is so weak. The overall effect is simply lame.

The guitars are back to sounding great, though the whole structure is a mess so the solos and licks sound dropped in at random instead of taking flight. The intro is good, perhaps because structure isn't a problem there; I like the wag rhyt wander from centre-to-left to make room for the entering lead. The ending is nonsensical though - it's like they heard a Zeppelin record, thought 'we can be like that', then stole completely the wrong bit.

The drums are rubbish. There's a crash on every possible accent, and the turnaround(? idk what else to call it - there's one at 2:28-9) kills the bridge at birth - it's like a dog running away from a post it's tied to.

Howard asked Don about the chicks he was banging back when they were really big. Don said that he used to go to parties where they had tons of women, from wall to wall, just wanting to meet them. Howard asked how long he resisted that stuff. Don said he had a lot of guilt when he was doing it and it was very tough for him

ugh this guy

Wait, that'd be Felder not Henley? Too easy to imagine Henley contriving that situation then whining about it.

"After The Thrill Is Gone"

http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/eaglesOOTNSB04.jpg

http://youtu.be/sYi4vYBIh1k

Don: We'd wear these funny masks and glasses yet the chicks were unstoppable, man. They couldn't leave us alone.

Glenn: It WAS great pussy.

Don: Well, yeah.

Felder: Noooooooo!!!!!!!!

I know this is maudlin levels of cheese but I really like this one

Adequate album filler i guess. The lyrics don't jibe with the real lives of the guys who wrote it.

BTW, how the f do you pronounce "Szymczyk"?

i bet it's like simcheck/zimchik or similar?

I think it should be Su-zim-chik, by my rudimentary Polish, but American rules (or indeed Polish ones) may be different

there are no american rules outside of "you must chug all night"

No wait, might be shim-chik

The group (or their people) must like this song--it was the one pre-Walsh track added to pad out Hits II. On listening, it sounds like a forecast of where they wanted to go--less oountry, more Pop/lite R & sensitive world-weary lyrics--and where Henley landed in the solo years. Nice guitar solo, but overall this doesn't stick to the ribs.

CC:

AFTER THE THRILL IS GONE
DON: “After The Thrill Is Gone” is something of an overlooked song that I think is very good. It’s me and Glenn, working together. He did the verses with a little help from me. I did the bridge. As exciting as the whole Eagles thing was at times, some of the luster was beginning to wear off. We were combining our personal and professional lives in song.

GLENN: It’s a sleeper. That record is a lot of self-examination, hopefully not too much. There was a lot of double-meaning and a lot of irony. “Any kind of love without passion/Well, that ain’t no kind of lovin’ at all…” — pure Henley.

Wasn't "Pure Henley' a real sweet strain of uncut pseudo-intellectual flake?

That record is a lot of self-examination, hopefully not too much

pure Frey

Wasn't 'Pure Frey' room temperature Schiltz & a bong hit?

We do indeed need to determine the true essence of each Eagle before this thread is done

pure Henley = like eating a tablespoon of cocoa powder

lol

GLENN: It’s a sleeper. That record is a lot of self-examination, hopefully not too much. There was a lot of double-meaning and a lot of irony. “Any kind of love without passion/Well, that ain’t no kind of lovin’ at all…” — pure Henley.

DON: We were still writin' good songs.

GLENN: We were still fucking some great pussy.

DON: Well, yeah.

No wait, might be shim-chik

― Ismael Klata, Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:05 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I thought so too, but I've only heard it pronounced (by Pete Townshend and John Entwistle) "sim-zik."

lol

http://i.snag.gy/iuxvh.jpg

"I gave you seven Eagles, and now you want to give them back!"

and whoa at how this guy turned out.

http://stmedia.startribune.com/images/523*328/04eagles091913.jpg

jesus christ Hitchens was angry the last year of his life

Pure Henley

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cGTCZQfXKWA/TeUADA2woFI/AAAAAAAAEhw/krv7lGoR7qw/s1600/CountryBearsHenley.jpg

context, if you are a buzzkill http://thisdayineagleshistory.blogspot.com/2011/07/2002-movie-country-bears-featuring-don.html

Also I stumbled on this which is kinda lol but mostly sad

..."I've heard the rumors about Glenn (Frey) and Don (Henley) being jerks, but I always thought that was just coming from people who are jealous of their wealth and fame. I guess I was wrong," says Lyle Givant, who's seen the band in concert "at least 20 times" over the last four decades. "Frey and Henley come across as two guys who have zero regret over how badly they've treated people over the years. It was hard for me to watch this documentary at times because I've loved the band for so long. I'm sure it wasn't the director's intention, but she made Frey and Henley look pretty bad. They clearly still live by the motto that the end justifies the means. If it's supposedly good for the band, screw it if people get hurt."

http://therenodispatch.blogspot.com/2013/02/exclusive-eagles-fans-angered-by-new.html

BREAKING NEWS: HENLEY AND FREY - IT IS SAD, THEY WERE DOUCHEBAGS

There's a special place in hell for Glenn Frey. Always has been. He can check out any time he likes, but he can never leave.

he's just a victim of love

it's a losing proposition
but one you can't refuse
it's the politics of contraband
it's the chugglers blues

Who's got the bigger reservation in Hell: Frey or Mike Love? I say the former, 'cause the man needs his hats and weirdos.

Man, say what you will about Mike Love but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRwPhBLh3hs