A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

Breaking: newborn infant found abandoned on a corner in Winslow Arizona. Police suspect the parents abandoned him after the child was found Eagle-positive

Authorities suspected the child to be Eagle-positive after observing it's 'Lyin' Eyes'.

rumours abound that the mother was a witchay woman

There was no wasted time. The parents must have seen this action as the last resort outside the sad cafe.

Tried to gain contact but they were already gone

"Visions"

http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/whitcap/DFWP.jpg

http://youtu.be/wXMJ9Q6W8rY

the songs sucks, but the guitars are cool. so there is that anyway.

Visions, that you stir in my soul
Visions, that will never grow old
Sweet baby, I had some visions of you
If I can't have it all, just a taste will do

Go ahead and live all your fantasies
(Don't you ever think about the other side?)
Helps you get from where you are
To where you want to be
(You and me oughta be taking a ride)
You do the best you can
And you make your mistakes
(If you don't like it, you can say that you tried)
'Cause all I have to give is whatever it takes

Play on, El Chingadero, play on
Play on, El Chingadero

Dance, angel, dance 'til you wear out your blues
(Only thing that's gonna save you now)
Take another chance, you got nothing to lose
(The boy didn't love you anyhow)
Girl, you drive me wild when you do what you do
(Something makes me want to take you down)
If I can't have it all, just a taste will do
Just a taste of you

So if this thread/exercise is demonstrating anything, it's that, yes, the Eagles do sort of quantifiably suck.

A made-up Spanglish word used in a similar fashion to the word thingamajig. The root word in Spanish is chingar, "to fuck".
Hey Pete, hand me that there chingadero.

I gotta go to Wal-Mart and buy one of those chingaderos to fix my sink.

http://books.google.com/books?id=dJpmlFiM1UYC&pg=PA132&lpg=PA132&dq=el+chingadero&source=bl&ots=8BAfoOcLfy&sig=Tklir4o875lU_BCbxTColJ4nJLs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-YBFUqqQKM3a4AO4rYCoCg&ved=0CEQQ6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=el%20chingadero&f=false

"Glenn, I really think I should be the one to sing 'Victim of Love.'"

"Fingers, go listen to 'Visions' again and get back to me."

I like the bagpipe-like drone they used for the ending. the rest of it: sheesh.

so i find that quote about el chingadero on google books in felder's book and i totally had to tear myself away from reading every page. riveting, i tell you. lots of stuff about one of these nights album.

Yeah I read it in just a couple days.

The way he sings vi-i-iii-sions kind of proto vedder

Book looks great. Is Felder a good guy? I know little of him.

Peanut gallery backing vox in this is sooo stupid

Felder is basically ok for a rock jerk. A little affirmation-y

Most jerks believe in self-help maxims.

Everyone's already said what I was going to say.

• Glenn & Don were right about who should sing "Victim of Love"

• Awesome guitars. This sounds great on an 8-track, I bet.

• Parenthetical statements in rock lyrics always suck.

So. Who's singing "Visions" in the current line-up then?

This is a mess, but yeah, the guitars are kind of OK; you can tell it's kind of the prototype for the "Hotel California" outro solos.

Fuck this drum mix AGAIN.

man this sounds late 70s to me in ways that the eagles themselves never actually did in the late 70s, like if there was a boogie nights ost vol 3 this thing would be lurking on it and you'd be like 'wait where was this' and it'd be during some thomas jane scene. walter egan deep cut. kinda like it!

Is this the closest the Eagles got to being The Doobie Brothers (Johnston-era)? balls otm about the isolated '70s-ness of this track, and as already pointed out, the guitars are the best part.

I got a hardcover copy of Felder's book way back in the Borders' going out of business sale. I guess I should dig it out and finally read the thing.

Howard Stern's interview with Felder (around when the book was released) is worth tracking down.

http://www.marksfriggin.com/news08/7-14.htm#thu

Howard asked Don why they got rid of him if he was capable of writing such a great song. Don said that when the band was first formed the guys had all agreed to be equal members in it. He said that it was still going on when he joined the band. He said that they created the band as a 5 way membership so they all got equal shares. He said that as time went by and the main songs got to be hits, Henley and Frey felt they were more entitled to the money coming in. Don said that he talked to his manager about that and the trouble started in the 90s when he started asking questions. He said that he was only a 1/3 owner at that time because some of the other guys had left the band by then.

Don said that the other guys became demons and they took away the fun from the band. Don said that even Glenn Frey and Don Henley were fighting with each other. They were concealing a lot of anger and hate for each other. Howard wondered what could be so bad that they'd hate each other.

Gary came in and said that he read the book so he has a good idea about it. He said that he thinks that Don Henley became a song writing machine and even Glenn Frey's songs weren't good enough for the band and that's why there was so much hate between them. Don told Gary that was very well put.

Howard asked Don if he ever had any doubts about writing the book. Don said that he didn't really. Howard asked Don about the chicks he was banging back when they were really big. Don said that he used to go to parties where they had tons of women, from wall to wall, just wanting to meet them. Howard asked how long he resisted that stuff. Don said he had a lot of guilt when he was doing it and it was very tough for him. He said that they had nothing to do when they weren't on stage so they were doing drugs, drinking and stuff like that.

Howard said that Joe Walsh isn't even a full partner in the Eagles but he must be getting paid well. Don said that's true. He said that he's surprised by that because Joe helped give them that rock and roll image too. Don said that he and Joe would dance around and have fun during some of the songs and Don Henley used to get upset about that so they had to put an end to it. Don said that drove him nuts. He said that he was reprimanded for wearing the wrong color shoes on stage one night.

Per Felder, the even steven Eagles Inc. five way split was written up in legally binding form. Pretty brazen, if so, that Azoff, Henley and Frey went ahead and just froze him out later on. But then, Felder did win his settlement.

that Walsh & Felder were cut out of a bigger share despite tangibly contributing to who the Eagles *became* soundwise just drives me insane.

An agreement's an agreement, so I definitely take Felder's side.

But let's get one thing straight, as far as the Eagles in the year 2013 A.D. are concerned - Felder's the Mick Taylor of the band. No one's ponying up $250 a ticket to hear him play Hotel California. Like God Himself, Don and Glenn were there in the beginning and they're the ones still running the show today. No one outside those of us who came to this thread today or watched "Heavy Metal" on a VHS tape recorded at SLP even know what Felder sounds like, much less what he ought to be paid.

*kicks dirt*

yeah

you're right

If only the Eagles had a Charlie Watts to punch the shit out of whoever their Mick Jagger is...

lol

charlie could hit mick though cuz mick knew that keith wouldn't do anything without charlie. charlie had keith's protection. its all very complicated. eagles had two bullies and some weak hired hands and a completely drunk joe walsh. the bullies ran the show.

hell, Mick wouldn't do anything without Charlie either. What's striking about every interview of the last 30 years is how Keef and Mick maneuver to make Charlie their foil.

It does give me a good imagined scene of Henley punching his own lights out, eating his own lunch all by himself.

More cymbal weirdness. Vocals buried in the mix. Forgettable song, but like the slow guitar fade.

It had me interested for a moment until that 'visions of you' line happened and then I was like uggggh this is terrible

Just heard lyin eyes on the office music feed

did you close your eyes and sing loudly

I was in a convo with HR

you didn't answer the question

hell, Mick wouldn't do anything without Charlie either. What's striking about every interview of the last 30 years is how Keef and Mick maneuver to make Charlie their foil.

― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, September 27, 2013 9:17 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Charlie calls the shots more than most would expect. He pretty much determines when and for how long they'll tour. He doesn't enjoy it (apart from the actual performing), so he'll set conditions that he thinks won't/can't be met, and then they are (e.g., only playing x number of shows, being personally guaranteed $x million). And they left the choice of Wyman replacement entirely in Charlie's hands.

I find Visions quite strange. Most of it is pretty good but the flaws really suck the life out of it. Take the call-and-response bridges: when they're on a minor chord they're fine, but the major chord is obvious and corny; the lead vocal is fine but gets beached on that stupid stuttery rhythm, the rhythm under the response vocal brings the momentum back, but the response vocal itself is so weak. The overall effect is simply lame.

The guitars are back to sounding great, though the whole structure is a mess so the solos and licks sound dropped in at random instead of taking flight. The intro is good, perhaps because structure isn't a problem there; I like the wag rhyt wander from centre-to-left to make room for the entering lead. The ending is nonsensical though - it's like they heard a Zeppelin record, thought 'we can be like that', then stole completely the wrong bit.

The drums are rubbish. There's a crash on every possible accent, and the turnaround(? idk what else to call it - there's one at 2:28-9) kills the bridge at birth - it's like a dog running away from a post it's tied to.

Howard asked Don about the chicks he was banging back when they were really big. Don said that he used to go to parties where they had tons of women, from wall to wall, just wanting to meet them. Howard asked how long he resisted that stuff. Don said he had a lot of guilt when he was doing it and it was very tough for him

ugh this guy

Wait, that'd be Felder not Henley? Too easy to imagine Henley contriving that situation then whining about it.

"After The Thrill Is Gone"

http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/eaglesOOTNSB04.jpg

http://youtu.be/sYi4vYBIh1k

Don: We'd wear these funny masks and glasses yet the chicks were unstoppable, man. They couldn't leave us alone.

Glenn: It WAS great pussy.

Don: Well, yeah.

Felder: Noooooooo!!!!!!!!

I know this is maudlin levels of cheese but I really like this one