A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

well yeah that's what i was getting at before. i don't think marsh and people here are that far apart in their views on eagles.

MOST people here...

Marsh also loved Madonna and "Jam On It."

I think Glenn Frey is the only Detroit guy Marsh wouldn't stan for. In the singles book, he praises Henley's solo career as a great example of "addition by subtraction".

well…hmm… I guess I don't particularly care if the Henley & Frey are representing misogyny and a curdled, selfish libertinism. or if they were hypocrites. I'm not voting for them, i don't work for them, me being around their music doesn't = being around them individually. I was born in 1971, have long been tired of guys like Marsh and Henley and guys I know pining for the 1960s and how the promise was betrayed, i.e. human nature was not essentially changed. Furthermore, it's not that different when steve Alibini or god knows how many indie rock people are pissed that the 80s are over and younger people are making music that contradicts their unchanging principles. Appreciating different aesthetics is fun. I don't need my ideological viewpoint reinforced.

are the Eagles presenting their asshole views in an interesting, vivid way? do their records sound good in representing their dickish-ness? If I can't abide the views of the Eagles as such, then I can't like NWA. I can't like John Lydon. I can't like GG Allin, I can't like Count Grishnackh, Frank Sinatra, Kells, David Allen Coe…then I can only like Bon Iver and Grizzly Bear.

my favorite song right now is "I Luv this Shit" by a young guy from New Orleans named August Alsina. He talks about treating women cavalierly, doing and selling reckless amounts of drugs and making a lot of money. I don't care that his views are not my own. It's a great song, vividly describing unpleasant unhealthy misogynist shit, in a manner somewhat reminiscent of the Long Run.

xp Marsh also hated Doug Fieger (had a band in Detroit in the 60s called Sky, was met with indifference, moved to LA to form the Knack).

"then I can only like Bon Iver and Grizzly Bear"

little-known, but these guys are actually neo-nazis and they eat babies.

"are the Eagles presenting their asshole views in an interesting, vivid way?"

not really!

but i dig them anyway. or at least the hits apparently.

pining for the 1960s and how the promise was betrayed, i.e. human nature was not essentially changed.

I can honestly say I've never read a single word of Marsh that bemoaned the fact that human nature didn't fundamentally change. I don't think human nature has anything to do with the "betrayal" of the "promise" of the "60s."

The Eagles were entitled whiners. None of the other artists you mentioned are/were.

xp

I always hated the reptition of 'Take It To the Limit', of all the Eagles songs that was the one that annoyed me the most and I would turn it off if it came on the radio.

but i dunno if it's this thread or I'm old & senile or who the fuck knows but I was playing it early in the morning the other day as I drove to work, and jeez, something about sunrise on an empty freeway must have kinda muddled my head or something because I was FEELIN' it all of a sudden
like really, truly FEELIN it. I was kind of embarrassed afterwards, lol

and that Etta version. holy shit. bow down, Randy.

They put you on a highway and showed you a sign--Take It To The Limit, Veg, One More Time...

but, I just did!

gah! fine *gets in car*

Those highway signs are for large trucks with multiple axles. Most drivers can disregard them.

ok wait. so do I or do I not take it to the limit

Do it.

Then do it one more time.

Randy would want it that way...

OK BUT WHEN DO I STOP. everyone keeps telling me 'one more time'

*cries*

It's the mobius strip of pleasant southern California country-rock.

take it to the limit on the highway until you see in the distance a shimmering light

Hmm, from which lane should I be in?

Yeah, definitely sounds like the soundtrack to somebody's personal hell. Playing this on tour must have felt like Sisyphus.

First off, I know this is off topic to the current song, so I apologize. Gotta say I've been following this thread as a lurker and someone who has a lifelong relationship w the Eagles (and solo Henley) yet has never voluntarily listened to one of their records, it's been great reading!

The music.... I don't know. Maybe I hate them on an instinctual level? I've been following this thread for about a month now and only just now listened to "Take It Easy" and "Take It To The Limit". There was no reason to listen to either of them, I'd heard it a million times on the radio, and in my mind I could re-create my favorite parts (and throw in some more cartoonish CCR-style fake southern accents for more fun) and when I got tired of the joke, just throw it aside.

In my memory these songs are pure radio cheese crafted as perfectly idealized cartoons. If The Ramones were in that Star Trek episode "Mirror Mirror", their evil versions would be The Eagles.

This is probably why they sold so many records. They are an archetype for post-psychedelic self-indulgence & social paranoia. That and it is the most indulgent kind of music-due in large part to their maturing drug-fueled lifestyles.

People always bring up 'the death of the 60's' or 'the death of the American dream' as themes the Eagles played with, and they themselves accept that critique because it's certainly part of the Eagles brand that works. What is this dream? Is it different than the dream of easy sex and drugs? Because if not, then the 60's never ended for the Eagles. They were living that dream. Sorry dudes, Manson beat you by almost a decade.

Btw I did re-listen to some songs, and did enjoy them! Just not as much as when i was a kid.

The EGOS

Take It... To the Limit!
Take It... To the Limit! ooooh yeeeeeeah
Take It... To the Limit! waaaaa haaaaa
Take It... To the Limit!
Take It... To the Limit!
Take It... To the Limit! eeeee oooooo
Take It... To the Limit!
Take It... To the Limit!
Take It... To the Limit! weeee heeee haaaa
Take It... To the Limit!
Take It... To the Limit! hooo aaa ooooo
One more time!
Can't you feel how hard we're rocking here?

Amazing harmonies, tho

yeah the harmonies are a+

Furthermore, it's not that different when steve Alibini or god knows how many indie rock people are pissed that the 80s are over and younger people are making music that contradicts their unchanging principles.

Lol Albini does not want it to be the 80s and he spends 50 hours a week recording music by young people

Like why would he want it to be the 80s when he wasn't well off and highly successful?

not a good tactic to beat up on the eagles-positive even if u do have important ripostes. hating on the eagles is so unavoidable the thread is constantly bordering on the corny

"eagles-positive" sounds kinda clinical. "I'm sorry Mrs. Jenkins, your baby has been born...eagles-positive."

I remember having to stay up with my son, what with his chugging all night.

"He'll be stricken with life-long obsessions with social commentary, residential addresses, banjos, and wanting to kick Don Felder's ass."

"Is there anything we can do for him?"

"Yes, ma'am. You can get over it."

hahaha

"thread is constantly bordering on the corny"

yes, on the border, but we only take it to the limit

love you guys. eagles power 4 ever.

it's a strong one!

ah i was coming back to amend constantly to occassionally but look, just look what u've done

Breaking: newborn infant found abandoned on a corner in Winslow Arizona. Police suspect the parents abandoned him after the child was found Eagle-positive

Authorities suspected the child to be Eagle-positive after observing it's 'Lyin' Eyes'.

rumours abound that the mother was a witchay woman

There was no wasted time. The parents must have seen this action as the last resort outside the sad cafe.

Tried to gain contact but they were already gone

"Visions"

http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/whitcap/DFWP.jpg

http://youtu.be/wXMJ9Q6W8rY

the songs sucks, but the guitars are cool. so there is that anyway.

Visions, that you stir in my soul
Visions, that will never grow old
Sweet baby, I had some visions of you
If I can't have it all, just a taste will do

Go ahead and live all your fantasies
(Don't you ever think about the other side?)
Helps you get from where you are
To where you want to be
(You and me oughta be taking a ride)
You do the best you can
And you make your mistakes
(If you don't like it, you can say that you tried)
'Cause all I have to give is whatever it takes

Play on, El Chingadero, play on
Play on, El Chingadero

Dance, angel, dance 'til you wear out your blues
(Only thing that's gonna save you now)
Take another chance, you got nothing to lose
(The boy didn't love you anyhow)
Girl, you drive me wild when you do what you do
(Something makes me want to take you down)
If I can't have it all, just a taste will do
Just a taste of you

So if this thread/exercise is demonstrating anything, it's that, yes, the Eagles do sort of quantifiably suck.

A made-up Spanglish word used in a similar fashion to the word thingamajig. The root word in Spanish is chingar, "to fuck".
Hey Pete, hand me that there chingadero.

I gotta go to Wal-Mart and buy one of those chingaderos to fix my sink.