A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

Bono and the Edge get more because they write lyrics.

Bono lets someone else write lyrics?

"Lyin' Eyes"

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i feel like almost every single eagles song could be a minute or two shorter. why is this song over 6 minutes long?

oh and as far as U2 goes if i were U2's bass player i think i would be happy to work for a thousand bucks a week plus tips. i would do whatever bono told me to do without fail. and i would make bono's bed at night and get him his slippers. because i would be the luckiest man on earth. even luckier than bill wyman!

Haha, yeah, this (although I think he's a good player).

Man I'm way behind

So one of these nights right into that funky song that sounds like bad company trying to be the bee gees.... killer open! Seems like a new Eagles...urban..then that snoozy Hollywood song kills the nice

Lol this scorcerer song...goofy

Kinda cool. Would never guess it's the eagles

Bet the A&R loved that

Confession: Lyin Eyes is one of my favorites

There's a great bit in the Dixie Chicks' "Shut Up and Sing" doc where a couple of them are in the studio with I want to say Chad Smith, Red Hot Chili doofus, who was playing drums on the record (thanks Rick Rubin). They got to talking about money, and Smith says that the RHCP simply share the credits and split the money four ways, and the one or two Dixie Chicks there was like "you can do that?" Like it was a completely foreign, crazy concept.

If you want to bet on longevity, it looks like Coldplay does that, too. And Radiohead. Maybe not coincidentally, the Rubin-produced Chicks record "Taking the Long Way" is the first where they all seem to share equal credit, more or less.

Lyin' Eyes is hella long. It doesn't drag as such, it's more that at some point I find myself thinking man, I've been listening to this forever. I was pleasantly surprised to find them sticking quite well to three minutes on earlier albums, but I guess that's gone now. A lot of verses and choruses here. No telescoping is possible, there's not a word could've been omitted.

It's okay, obviously well-crafted, but kinda static. Those harmonies - and your smiiiiiiiiiiiiiiile - just sit there, like blocks of Perspex.

What's the last line? 'Money can't hide your lyin' eyes?'

Coldplay's another band might suit a thread like this.

"Lyin' Eyes" is on the Urban Cowboy soundtrack. It plays in the background in the diner scene when Sissy gets angry at Bud for saying "Hello" to Jerry Hall's character.

There's a great bit in the Dixie Chicks' "Shut Up and Sing" doc where a couple of them are in the studio with I want to say Chad Smith, Red Hot Chili doofus, who was playing drums on the record (thanks Rick Rubin).

Yeah, it's Smith. He should be physically barred from access to anything that produces sound. I can't think of a less swinging, less funky drummer in all of music. He makes Henley sound like a brilliant hybrid of Elvin Jones and Clyde Stubblefield.

They got to talking about money, and Smith says that the RHCP simply share the credits and split the money four ways, and the one or two Dixie Chicks there was like "you can do that?" Like it was a completely foreign, crazy concept.

Ha, the Chicks' label rep was probably making a frantic cut-off signal to Smith. Share credit?! What about the tried-and-true label practice of divide-and-conquer?

Maybe not coincidentally, the Rubin-produced Chicks record "Taking the Long Way" is the first where they all seem to share equal credit, more or less.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:45 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think they mostly used outside writers for their previous records, though. iirc, this was the first one where most/all (?) of the songs were written by the Dixie Chicks themselves.

yeah, was there a single edit of "Lyin' Eyes"? guess not. there's like nine verses! first chorus isn't until 1:40 in. By the time she's pouring herself a strong one, feels like the song's been playing since 1972.

the last verses, with Henley/Frey giving their lyin' girl an internal monologue, are pretty dire stuff. When Frey sings "same old girl you used to be" it sounds like he really wants to say "bitch."

more cymbal oddness: in the chorus, there's a cymbal crash for every other beat of the first line, then one crash on "and your smile" and that's it. no more cymbal for the rest of the chorus.

Maybe not coincidentally, the Rubin-produced Chicks record "Taking the Long Way" is the first where they all seem to share equal credit, more or less.

Not coincidentally, in its wake we now have Natalie Maines solo vs. Court Yard Hounds.

The single version of the song is shortened quite a bit from the album version, removing the entire second verse, the second chorus and four lines in the middle of the third verse. Top 40 Radio in 1975 didn't usually play songs longer than 4 minutes so the runtime on the 45RPM label was listed as 3:58, but the actual playing time was 4:14.

ah that makes sense (single edit). I knew this was too long a slog for mid-70s AM radio

"the cheatin' side of town" is one of H/F's sharpest lines, but I wouldn't be surprised if they nicked it from some country song.

in the to the limit book, the writer (who's a verrryyy poor stylist, despite the good shit he often unearths) says that the ladies around troub/dan tana's milieu called this song "Lyin' Guys." If not exhibit A, must be exhibit C, D. E. F or G in Don and Glenn's "do as I say, not as I do" cavalcade.

The Eagles were some proto-nice guy/MRA balladeers. City girls manipulating men with their looks, snagging rich beta men to mooch off of while they run across town to bone alpha men, but live their lives drunk, lonely, and miserable, the same old girls they used to be.

Sleep now honey, it's alright
There ain't no way to hide your lyin eyes

you are otm carl

that whole story about "not being able to get the girls they wanted" made me sick!

why is this song over 6 minutes long?

OTM, still a great song though

lyin eyes has been a favorite for a long time, even when I hated them

but this time around I def noticed all the stuff that carl noted...i guess I'd never listened v closely before? i was bummed & a bit annoyed to find out it wasn't just about a sad girl, like oh this about handwavey women in general >:(

i guess I'm learning that THAT more than the harmonies makes it an eagles song :/

pl don't make the next one of these abt coldplay i beg you

Lyrics are hardly a strongpoint with this mob

i couldn't hang with a coldplay thread. i've heard them before...

it would be kinda fun to do something like radiohead but only if everyone listening wasn't really a radiohead fan. fresh ears. i think i've heard 2 of their albums. and one of those only via videos on mtv.

but anyway i guess lyin' eyes is the eagles hit i'm least excited to hear if it comes on the radio. maybe because i know for the rest of the day i'm just gonna be randomly singing YOU CAN'T HIIIIIIIIIIIIDE...like a tourette sufferer.

i picture them all in their chairs onstage, harmonizing up a storm and thinking about their piles of money and women.
this thread really made me appreciate tom petty lyrics tbh.

plus tom petty records have a real cumulative effect. over time. a true body of work. variations on a well-loved theme to be sure but in a positive folk/americana way. they leave me refreshed. eagles remind me of FM car radio and cowboys and the sunset strip and other nostalgic american touchstones but there is also a hint and glimmer of exhaust fumes, the much needed rise of feminism, and venereal disease.

Eagles are more despicable than Tom Petty, but man. Tom Petty is like ranch and sour cream Ruffles to me. Yeah, you might see me eat one at the Super Bowl party, but I don't seek it out or anything.

I don't have any qualms calling Tom Petty a better songwriter, musician, and more interesting person (if that counts).

i love the petty.

"Hey, guys! Have you heard the new Tom Petty record?"

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listening to petty is great cuz its like getting a bunch of latter-day byrds albums that were never made. i became such a huge byrds fan later in life so i just love hearing any kinda ersatz byrds. not that tom isn't great in his own right, but he does kinda hits the byrds spot for me.

I don't think Petty is in the pantheon but he deserves the multiplatinum bucks that the Eagles take for granted.

i mean i listened to the byrds ever since i was a kid but in my teens and 20's for some reason i thought they were overrated or whatever you think when you are dumb and now i think they were the best american rock band of all time. and tom knows his byrds inside and out.

“I was working in that music store in Gainesville and like I said, the only way I had to make money was after school I would go teach guitar in this music store. One day this kind of scrawny, scraggly blond-haired kid came in and wanted guitar lessons. I started teaching him guitar and we became friends and I went over to his house a couple of times,” Felder explained.

“He had actually set up a microphone in one of the rooms in his house and he was playing bass in this little band,” Felder said. “He wanted to learn guitar so he could play guitar instead of just bass in the band. So I went over to his house and was hanging around and he would play songs.”

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Really feeling Feldster is becoming my favorite Eagle.

anyone who irritates Frey can't be a terrible person

When you're fired from a band of assholes for being an asshole, I've got heart for ya.

tom petty could give the eagles a master class in saying "honey" without sounding like a total dick

The message of Petty's body of work: I won't back down; don't push me around = conservative
The message of the Eagles' body of work: don't you touch our loot; aren't we hot, you dumb bitches = reactionary

i just think of it this way: working for tom petty would be pretty cool! you'd have to be on your toes cuz he's a real pro and demands the best from his employees, but you'd want to give him your best just to see that fucked up grin. plus, i'll bet you'd get great christmas bonuses. working for don henley, on the other hand, would possibly be the worst job on earth and every day you would go home and take extra long showers and scrub and scrub and the dirt still...won't...come...OFF. in a nutshell.

The message of Petty's body of work: I won't back down; don't push me around = conservative

Unions love to play "I Won't Back Down" at rallies, fwiw.

(Personally I think they should embrace "Invincible" by Pat Benetar for this purpose.)

"The message of the Eagles' body of work: don't you touch our loot; aren't we hot, you dumb bitches = reactionary"

just add a touch of Henleyite politics: "we are America: America is depraved and awful."

(Personally I think they should embrace "Invincible" by Pat Benetar for this purpose.)

― carl agatha,

and with the power of conviction
THERE IS NO SACRIFICE