Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

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Man this Cian Nugent song/clip is lovely. I really enjoy his phrasing/timing and string bends on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBZuKhPHKfg&app=desktop

grandavis, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:28 (twelve years ago)

the forthcoming album is pretty amazing

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:33 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, looking forward to it! Wish I could have made that Three-Lobed Desert Heat set. Would have loved to see him stretch out on an electric with Steve Gunn.

grandavis, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:47 (twelve years ago)

Sorry reposting cause I'm needy. Though it's not great. Was lost in fingernail discussion. A few separate melodies laced together- still have trouble playing cleaning with record button pressed.

https://soundcloud.com/factual-1/medley

Evan, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:01 (twelve years ago)

No worries Evan, that did get lost in the fingernail shuffle. It's good man, I especially like the first part/song. Some cool notes emphasized. You gotta find some like-minded folks up there and start a band, no reason this wouldn't fly far in the land of Hoboken.

grandavis, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:13 (twelve years ago)

yeah sounds very nice -- was going to ask if you saw this stuff as purely solo or with a band or what?

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:14 (twelve years ago)

Thanks!

Yeah arrangements to jam/record with local people I know always disintegrate quickly- trying to keep up the enthusiasm. I need someone else to be as into the project as I am. So they can bug me about recording more/setting up sessions more often. Need some give and take.

Evan, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:17 (twelve years ago)

Thank you, too!

Uhhh I see them as fleshed out with a band in my mind ultimately.

Evan, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:18 (twelve years ago)

But I've been playing them for myself so often that I account for the bass parts right in my guitar arrangements. It doesn't really come out as much in these recordings though. Basically I try to emulate Kozelek song constructions in a way.

Evan, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:20 (twelve years ago)

I can hear what you mean in re the bass parts, came across to me.

I also would think folks would be excited to jump on some of these progressions/parts, good launching points all over. A big reason I started imagining how to play stuff I liked solo was because of how hard it is to get a band rolling though. Good luck, hope you find the right combo/partner in crime at some point.

grandavis, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:21 (twelve years ago)

Very much appreciate your support. I don't get a ton of in-person interest.

And as far as people to play with I've always been nervous about craigslist ads etc. I can only imagine it being like connecting with people on eHarmony...

Evan, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:29 (twelve years ago)

lost in the fingernail shuffle

Good song name idea btw

Evan, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:34 (twelve years ago)

Btw that medley is also with DGDGmBE but with a capo on the fourth fret I think.

Evan, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:36 (twelve years ago)

It's a pretty tuning for sure. I need to use a capo more to milk my own tunings a bit.

grandavis, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:41 (twelve years ago)

The capo certainly makes tunings feel fresh again!

Evan, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:50 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, I use one now and again but I like the feel of fully open strings best. Also I am lazy, but a capo is easier than retuning.

grandavis, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:58 (twelve years ago)

Also, I somewhat don't want to do this (cause it is probably on purpose that I have hadn't seen/heard about it anywhere), but the upcoming Chris Forsyth "Solar Motel" album is up on Spotify. PoB is teasing it with a five minute stream that is getting passed around twitter etc. but no one seemed to suggest it was there, but listening to it right now. I opened up Spotify to look for something else and it was recommended to me.

grandavis, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:02 (twelve years ago)

It just casts a new light on a song. Suddenly it's brighter, or has more yearning to it. Then I can't decide which version I prefer.

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Evan, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:02 (twelve years ago)

Only halfway into the Solar Motel album but god damn it is sick!

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 03:30 (twelve years ago)

Yep, finishing up now, it rips. Forsyth really tearing it up. A lot more rhythmically aggressive than most of his stuff. Very excited to see if he tours with this band, would absolutely love to see this.

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 04:00 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, "Solar Motel" is cool. Going to listen to it again, but having just seen this whole record live (which was great) and listened to various versions of these songs from the other live sets he's been posting, it's definitely cool to hear the recorded versions. Way more texture and detail, it gets really dense here and there. More skronky and "wall of noise" type playing here and there as well. All of which is summed up by global much more succinctly: definitely more rhythmically aggressive/varied. Some nice touches like droney organ etc. as well.

grandavis, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:15 (twelve years ago)

yeah i was worried the record would suffer in comparison to the live stuff, but it delivers in a big way. exciting from start to finish.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:46 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, he packed a lot of details in there that cannot be duplicated live but make the record a real cool straight-through listen. Cool transitions and moments popping up throughout.

grandavis, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:08 (twelve years ago)

Tyler, do you know if Chris plays all of the guitar on the album, or is the guy Paul from the live band on there too? Seems like all Chris to me, but not sure I could really tell.

grandavis, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:10 (twelve years ago)

It's all Chris

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:18 (twelve years ago)

That's what I thought listening to it, thanks Jimmywine!

grandavis, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:28 (twelve years ago)

Finally made my way through this whole thread, took a few days. Really love the Lena Hughes record, Cian Nugent, and George Cromarty and lots more, thanks guys!

JacobSanders, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:34 (twelve years ago)

hey jacob! listening to your night moves mix right now, it is pretty amazing.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:54 (twelve years ago)

Wow Jacob, quite a task! Still gotta get a copy of that Lena Hughes at some point, another reminder.

grandavis, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 18:07 (twelve years ago)

It's officially posted now: Desert Heat (for those forgetting it's Steve Gunn and Cian Nugent with a rhythm section) set at Hopscotch via NYC Taper:

http://networkedblogs.com/Pstk2

I listened live and enjoyed it a bunch, but I am excited to dig back in.

grandavis, Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:13 (twelve years ago)

I never got that latest Steve Gunn record but I really wanted it for my trip to Vermont this weekend :(

If I don't purchase it before winter rolls around I just won't until the weather gets cheery again.

Evan, Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:31 (twelve years ago)

Man that is a good driving to Vermont record for sure, assuming the weather cooperates.

grandavis, Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:54 (twelve years ago)

right... oh well! It probably isn't poppy enough for the guy I'll be driving with. He's an indie pop lover and rarely strays or has patience for that boring shit Evan likes, along those boring 90s bands too!

Evan, Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:57 (twelve years ago)

along with*

But that's OK, we have some mutual tastes too but not as much as 6-7 years ago.

Evan, Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:58 (twelve years ago)

my wife is more an indie pop kinda lady and she likes that steve gunn record. and yeah, great driving music, we were jamming it on the last trip through the Rocky Mountains in August.

tylerw, Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:02 (twelve years ago)

desert heat set is killer btw

tylerw, Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:02 (twelve years ago)

Yeah driving buddies can be a tough sell sometimes, but a LOT of people I did not expect to dig that Steve Gunn record did, it's pretty universally great in a lot of ways, but I have known some indie pop hard-liners and they can, at times, be an extremely closed-minded bunch.

grandavis, Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:03 (twelve years ago)

Or, what Tyler said! Yeah, going to listen to that set again. I love the way those two play together, wish I could have seen it in person to get the full read on it.

grandavis, Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:04 (twelve years ago)

found dean mcphee's 'son of the black peace' LP today, a pristine used copy, for $2.99

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 29 September 2013 05:19 (twelve years ago)

been trying with the fingerpicks...also been messing more with recording and Audacity and the mic i bought...anyway i've been practicing really simple picking patterns over and over again with fingerpicks so i figured i might try a song with overdubbing a lot of really simple parts (terry riley kinda came to mind because his stuff is all these real cyclical things) but anyway...i kinda dig this. it's crazy how easy it is to record stuff now w/home software. Audacity lets you generate a click track which is really nice to keep everything together

https://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/terry-goes-camping

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 October 2013 20:26 (twelve years ago)

that's neat and the fingerpicks sound lovely and bright. nice development too, kind of turns into a penguin cafe orchestra jam at the end. how many guitar tracks?

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 3 October 2013 20:46 (twelve years ago)

total of 5 by the end...i kinda arbitrarily added something about every 45 seconds

i don't know penguin cafe orchestra, i'll check them out

fun trying to get a handle on multitrack recording

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:47 (twelve years ago)

well it was only the way the guitars were piled up playing repeated phrases that reminded me of PCO, they're waaaaay too twee and refined for this thread but here you go anyhow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd066rqUJqQ

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:57 (twelve years ago)

a friend of mine made a 'best of' for PCO, I really dig some of their stuff. Not quite like things in this thread, but in the same realm if not barking up quite the same tree:

http://open.spotify.com/user/mrbeecheese/playlist/3pSTJJjgdDeOxTBDkpQKux

global tetrahedron, Friday, 4 October 2013 02:17 (twelve years ago)

Hey UMS, the picks sound good, seems like you are making that transition pretty seamlessly.

grandavis, Friday, 4 October 2013 13:17 (twelve years ago)

Also, they finally posted the Tom Carter Three Lobed set from Hopscotch on NYC Taper. It was a burner, can't wait to hear it again!:

http://www.nyctaper.com/2013/10/tom-carter-september-6-2013-three-lobed-wxdu-day-show-kings-raleigh-nc-flacmp3streaming/

grandavis, Friday, 4 October 2013 13:19 (twelve years ago)

sweet

tylerw, Friday, 4 October 2013 14:17 (twelve years ago)

thanks grandavis

global thanks for posting that playlist

i'm totally digging this pegnuin cafe orchestra....definitely not in the vein of anything in this thread, but i can totally hear it in relation to maybe robert wyatt or ivor cutler type stuff

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 16:10 (twelve years ago)

My buddy knows more about them, but basically he described 'em as Simon Jeffes as the mastermind and composer, and he'd have a revolving door of musicians, and some were close to amateur/self-taught. I think that element of sorta-primitivism adds a lot of color to the songs. That he'd write really intricate parts that would co-exist with the very simplistic.

global tetrahedron, Friday, 4 October 2013 18:54 (twelve years ago)

yeah this band a is a minor miracle because it's really brilliant IMO but SO CLOSE to shit that i would really hate

i'd bet money the rotating cast of pp and relatively amateurism is what's making this something i love

there's a certain fragile quality to it which i think is what reminded me of wyatt

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 18:56 (twelve years ago)


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