A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

that's nothing i just discovered that "Brown Sugar" is about slavery! via the miley cyrus thread. i had no idea what the words were other than the chorus.

God, yes, that is a horrrrrible song that should really never be played on the radio again.

It actually makes me a little sick to my stomach, especially since I uncritically rocked out to it for many, many years (albeit without knowing all of the lyrics, but I knew enough that I should have been like, "Hey... wait a minute...").

let's forget about that for now. i don't want to bring the thread down. look, funny picture!

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Timothy+B+Schmit+2012+New+Orleans+Jazz+Heritage+rkcDCwug4J6l.jpg

lol

sorry, you are right! Glenn looks like an angry orc.

I can't imagine a sentient human sexing Glenn Frey.

red hair/white beard looks amazing

amazingly awful
they both look like asshole old men on vacation

his wife and kids are all really normal and nice looking. judging from google pictures.

the one guy in that Eagles documentary who looks better now than he did in the 70s is Azoff

"Is It True?": Very AM GOLD. Discreetly catchy. Seems like Frey was taking his slide cues from George Harrison, except he gradually gets more showboaty. Once again another track that would be better without the coda--just a dramatic cut @ like 2:26-ish.

huh i was all prepared to hate "Is It True?" but i like it...slide guitar is good and someone who said AM lite rock Chris Bell is pretty right on....

RE: Mr. "i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night"

I seem to recall that some Musician articles are on Rockbackpages.com, the work of Barney Hoskyns, who as noted upthread wrote the book that many of you guys like but that I find to repetitive and unnecessary in light of of his Waiting for the Sun book of 1997.

Funny that you mention Dire straits. Musician mag from the late '80s to the mid 90s was run by EIC Bill Flanagan. I was an intern there in the early 90s, and I suspect I made a fatal mistake in saying that I thought CSN fucking sucks, but that I liked Neil Young. He raised his eyebrows and said "what about "'through my sails'?" "Uh that's okay." But my fate was sealed in his eyes. He was the one who did the interview was Glyn Johns I mentioned earlier.

Flanagan's a smart fellow, great writer, etc etc. But make no mistake: his success then and since at VH1.com is down to being a courtier to GREAT MEN OF ROCK like Henley, Knopfler, Springsteen and above all Bono. If the artist was famous and hewed to the template of baby-boomer notions of oracular, literary significance, then Flanagan was all in. His tastes or rather his tendency to buddy up to those guys doomed Musician. Hilariously, he stumped for Jesus Jones in 1991: Nirvana sailed right over his head.

I really loved his U2 book

Thanks for the background Veronica. That jibes with my memories of the mag. My readership of it was abt 1985-88. Sometimes there was stuff like Curt Kirkwood talking abt his gtr technique, and unless my brain is playing tricks on me I first read abt the Fall in there circa late 85. Stuff like the Blue Nile too...

i remember the blue nile review, i think. i think that's what made me buy the first album. that would have been 1984 though.

I really loved his U2 book

― Ismael Klata,

I've said it in U2 threads but besides being a superb piece of reporting with worrisome ethics (he parties hard with the band) it's an unusually literate time and place narrative: Bosnia unraveling, Nirvan's impact on MTV, a little something called the information superhighway in its larval state, and Bono's Fly glasses.

...and all this prior to hell freezing over because the Eagles got back together to have higher seat prices than U2, Stones etc.

I was a heavy Musician reader in that 80s time frame too... Peter Buck had a regular column for a year or so. One great one was Buck going on about how critics should stop writing about R.E.M. because The Replacements were the greatest band in the universe. Musician was pretty sympathetic to the college rock scene. Considine's "Rock Short Takes" was the greatest. I would Kickstarter the hell out of it if he could write those again on Twitter.

How dumb is it that I want to spend the next 4 years reading all the issues of Option and Musician I read during those 4 years.

i would love to come across a stash of options. i never see them. i should ssk byron c. if i see him if he has a spare stash. i need to get some old FE mags from him when i see him. those are fun to read too. i didn't really read them much at the time. would read musician too.

hell, i'd read old copies of tower records magazines.

I loved Pulse! Got to do a couple of those back page comics in there when Marc Weidenbaum was editing.

Would hella wreck some old FEs too. Skot get all these together and start a xtian science reading room in back of your store with a couch.

i got a couch back there but i gotta get all the records out of there first.

I'm convinced Tower might still be in business if they hadn't stopped publishing (and giving away free) Pulse a few years before they closed. I didn't have a Tower store near me but always made a monthly trip there to pick up the new issue, and usually left with some albums, magazines, and DVDs i didn't intend to buy.

I'm trying to remember which record chain had a similar (if not as good) free magazine called Request. I still have alot of those too. Loved the challopy "Overrated"/"Underrated" column, even though I often didn't agree.

Musicland's Request magazine was pretty good

as penance for rock mag thread drift…

drifting off to sleep, was thinking about how, post-Beatles, many big bands were invested in the notion of all members writing and singing, i.e "the integrity of the band." and I thought of another huge 70s band and how their roles line up with the Eagles…in both, the two principals held the hand of the less accomplished songwriters for big hits, but nonetheless kept themselves at arm's length from 'em…

Gene/Don: the dark heart of assholeishness; thinker of big thoughts

Paul/Glenn: the master of ceremonies; keeps eye on the ball musically

Peter/Randy: skittish, sensitive singer of big hit ballads, been around the block longer than the other guys

Ace/Joe: requires no unpacking

Eric/ Timothy: dependable, happy to be there, doesn't make waves

Bob Kulick/ Bernie Leadon: the former is a longtime associate of Kiss, would have been in the band in place of Ace if he wasn't bald

Vinnie/Felder: drives the two principals nuts for refusing to obey, having made important creative contributions they dislike acknowledging,

This leaves Stuart Smith = Tommy thayer; danny Kortchmar = Bruce Kulick…but what about Eric Singer?

Irving = Bill Aucoin; Geffen = Neil Bogart

So who's the JD Souther of the Kissuverse? Jackson? the jack tempchin?

JD Southern = Desmond Child?

J.D. Souther = J.D. Souther

"Good Day In Hell"

http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/trade/covers/EaglesGoodDayInHellBack.jpg

http://youtu.be/x0VuxWbhgdQ

kinda hellish to listen to right now. but i didn't sleep well last night.

This is wretched. Guitars sound okay, but what's the point when they're playing this?

really digging your photo curation, Mr Seward!

yeah this song is lousy.

even their feet are ugly

I guess this is where Felder came in

my reaction to the first few seconds was, "This would be better with Walsh" ... then they started singing and it became a good day in hell

Was expecting much more with Felder coming in. "Good Day in Hell" would've been a fine song title for KISS, so there's that for you veronica.

i like the KISS analogy.

btw, a new trend in the youtube clips posted here has begun:

http://i.snag.gy/UMBoy.jpg

Listen youtube, I'm only watching these videos for science, ok?

hey, it's our thread's title track at last, and it's a bit of a shitshow. Felder's guitar doesn't really fit in the song: sounds like he's just nosing in wherever he can find space (and even if he can't), esp in the verses.

veronica had a great point that "post-Beatles, many big bands were invested in the notion of all members writing and singing, i.e "the integrity of the band". It's def. true (in Kiss' case, I think Simmons also saw the rock band as a superhero team like the Avengers)& it crystallizes what's weird about the Eagles in this era; there's this seeming need to cover all fan bases--bloozy rock, country, MOR "soul" (see next track)--& it's becoming a schizophrenic mess.

on the bootleg cover above, Leadon looks like he's contemplating jumping overboard

Foreshadowing!

pickers just want to pick all day. not listen to don drone on about whatever the hell don would drone on about back then.

"Bernie, have you ever read the works of Ralph Waldo Emerson? There's some heavy stuff in there man"

(in Kiss' case, I think Simmons also saw the rock band as a superhero team like the Avengers)

That's true, and Paul Stanley was a Who fanatic, and saw Kiss as modeling themselves after the Who in terms of four distinct personalities.

Then he realized the members of Kiss didn't have personalities, so they all put on makeup.

then he realized the members of KISS couldn't play their instruments

then he realized the members of KISS couldn't actually write music

I mean... now that I think about it kiss is by far the least major classic rock band

There whole schtick is so perfect kinda cheap and lousy a band you'd win for knocking over 3 concrete milk bottles at a carnival

Can you be a classic rock band if only Americans like you (and maybe some Japanese)?

(I suppose so, I imagine some people over here think of Status Quo as a "classic rock band")

on classic rock radio, Kiss consists of only 3 songs: "Rock n Roll All Nite," "Hard Luck Woman" & maybe "Love Gun" or "Beth." even "I was Made for Loving You" is a bit too disco, as I've rarely heard it (this evidence is based on radio heard on drives to my folks in Connecticut)