but that would be enjoyable! at least for me it would be.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:29 (twelve years ago)
is that against the rules?
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:31 (twelve years ago)
haha, i'm listening to a loudon wainwright album right now and he calls bob geldof BOB GELDORF. "even bob geldorf looks alarmingly thing..."
that doesn't have anything to do with the doobie brothers though.
http://images.dangerousminds.net/uploads/images/doobiebust1dfsdg.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:32 (twelve years ago)
no, no rules. but this thread is kinda the only way i would ever listen to all the eagles. i would (and sometimes do) listen to the doobies for pleasure.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:33 (twelve years ago)
god, i still remember how scared i was when the doobies saw rerun's tape recorder.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:35 (twelve years ago)
the four albums after One Step Closer might be kinda rough though. i've never listened to them.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:39 (twelve years ago)
i think it would be perfectly fair, for official thread purposes, and possibly for real-life purposes too, to discount any album released after the one called farewell tour. not to mention after the tour of the same name.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:45 (twelve years ago)
that doobie episode is all-time
― velko, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:45 (twelve years ago)
I haven't seen that episode since I was a kid. It was much later that I finally said to myself, "Wait a minute, the Doobie Brothers?"
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:10 (twelve years ago)
Just the premise that there was a lucrative market for audience-recorded bootleg Doobies is pretty hilarious.
"Dude, on 'Fool,' Simmons does this crazy solo! WAY better than Santa Monica '79!"
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:15 (twelve years ago)
making movies is all great until it manages to completely bin it coming around the final corner
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:40 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OTM, one of the worst album closers ever.
― Lee626, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:18 (twelve years ago)
as for "Is It True", i'll take a mediocre, forgettable Meisner track over the more cloying and annoying work of Frey, Henley, or i'm finding, Jackson Browne
― Lee626, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:22 (twelve years ago)
Doobie's might be useful for me -- I only just recently found out that China Grove was called China Grove, I had no idea what the song was called or even what it was about except that it was a lot WHOA OH OH, WHOAAAAOOOHH
I tried to sing it on rockband at a party a while ago and failed out of it because the whole time I was like, WAIT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING?!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:31 (twelve years ago)
that's nothing i just discovered that "Brown Sugar" is about slavery! via the miley cyrus thread. i had no idea what the words were other than the chorus.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:37 (twelve years ago)
God, yes, that is a horrrrrible song that should really never be played on the radio again.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:41 (twelve years ago)
It actually makes me a little sick to my stomach, especially since I uncritically rocked out to it for many, many years (albeit without knowing all of the lyrics, but I knew enough that I should have been like, "Hey... wait a minute...").
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:44 (twelve years ago)
let's forget about that for now. i don't want to bring the thread down. look, funny picture!
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Timothy+B+Schmit+2012+New+Orleans+Jazz+Heritage+rkcDCwug4J6l.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:07 (twelve years ago)
lol
sorry, you are right! Glenn looks like an angry orc.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:13 (twelve years ago)
I can't imagine a sentient human sexing Glenn Frey.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:15 (twelve years ago)
red hair/white beard looks amazing
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:15 (twelve years ago)
amazingly awfulthey both look like asshole old men on vacation
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:16 (twelve years ago)
his wife and kids are all really normal and nice looking. judging from google pictures.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:19 (twelve years ago)
the one guy in that Eagles documentary who looks better now than he did in the 70s is Azoff
― Brad C., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:33 (twelve years ago)
"Is It True?": Very AM GOLD. Discreetly catchy. Seems like Frey was taking his slide cues from George Harrison, except he gradually gets more showboaty. Once again another track that would be better without the coda--just a dramatic cut @ like 2:26-ish.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:34 (twelve years ago)
huh i was all prepared to hate "Is It True?" but i like it...slide guitar is good and someone who said AM lite rock Chris Bell is pretty right on....
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:55 (twelve years ago)
RE: Mr. "i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night"
I seem to recall that some Musician articles are on Rockbackpages.com, the work of Barney Hoskyns, who as noted upthread wrote the book that many of you guys like but that I find to repetitive and unnecessary in light of of his Waiting for the Sun book of 1997.
Funny that you mention Dire straits. Musician mag from the late '80s to the mid 90s was run by EIC Bill Flanagan. I was an intern there in the early 90s, and I suspect I made a fatal mistake in saying that I thought CSN fucking sucks, but that I liked Neil Young. He raised his eyebrows and said "what about "'through my sails'?" "Uh that's okay." But my fate was sealed in his eyes. He was the one who did the interview was Glyn Johns I mentioned earlier.
Flanagan's a smart fellow, great writer, etc etc. But make no mistake: his success then and since at VH1.com is down to being a courtier to GREAT MEN OF ROCK like Henley, Knopfler, Springsteen and above all Bono. If the artist was famous and hewed to the template of baby-boomer notions of oracular, literary significance, then Flanagan was all in. His tastes or rather his tendency to buddy up to those guys doomed Musician. Hilariously, he stumped for Jesus Jones in 1991: Nirvana sailed right over his head.
― veronica moser, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 20:05 (twelve years ago)
I really loved his U2 book
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 20:18 (twelve years ago)
Thanks for the background Veronica. That jibes with my memories of the mag. My readership of it was abt 1985-88. Sometimes there was stuff like Curt Kirkwood talking abt his gtr technique, and unless my brain is playing tricks on me I first read abt the Fall in there circa late 85. Stuff like the Blue Nile too...
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 23:12 (twelve years ago)
i remember the blue nile review, i think. i think that's what made me buy the first album. that would have been 1984 though.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2013 00:34 (twelve years ago)
― Ismael Klata,
I've said it in U2 threads but besides being a superb piece of reporting with worrisome ethics (he parties hard with the band) it's an unusually literate time and place narrative: Bosnia unraveling, Nirvan's impact on MTV, a little something called the information superhighway in its larval state, and Bono's Fly glasses.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2013 00:39 (twelve years ago)
...and all this prior to hell freezing over because the Eagles got back together to have higher seat prices than U2, Stones etc.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 September 2013 00:47 (twelve years ago)
I was a heavy Musician reader in that 80s time frame too... Peter Buck had a regular column for a year or so. One great one was Buck going on about how critics should stop writing about R.E.M. because The Replacements were the greatest band in the universe. Musician was pretty sympathetic to the college rock scene. Considine's "Rock Short Takes" was the greatest. I would Kickstarter the hell out of it if he could write those again on Twitter.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 19 September 2013 01:48 (twelve years ago)
How dumb is it that I want to spend the next 4 years reading all the issues of Option and Musician I read during those 4 years.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 September 2013 01:55 (twelve years ago)
i would love to come across a stash of options. i never see them. i should ssk byron c. if i see him if he has a spare stash. i need to get some old FE mags from him when i see him. those are fun to read too. i didn't really read them much at the time. would read musician too.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:05 (twelve years ago)
hell, i'd read old copies of tower records magazines.
I loved Pulse! Got to do a couple of those back page comics in there when Marc Weidenbaum was editing.
Would hella wreck some old FEs too. Skot get all these together and start a xtian science reading room in back of your store with a couch.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:15 (twelve years ago)
i got a couch back there but i gotta get all the records out of there first.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:30 (twelve years ago)
I'm convinced Tower might still be in business if they hadn't stopped publishing (and giving away free) Pulse a few years before they closed. I didn't have a Tower store near me but always made a monthly trip there to pick up the new issue, and usually left with some albums, magazines, and DVDs i didn't intend to buy.
I'm trying to remember which record chain had a similar (if not as good) free magazine called Request. I still have alot of those too. Loved the challopy "Overrated"/"Underrated" column, even though I often didn't agree.
― Lee626, Thursday, 19 September 2013 10:30 (twelve years ago)
Musicland's Request magazine was pretty good
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 19 September 2013 11:40 (twelve years ago)
as penance for rock mag thread drift…
drifting off to sleep, was thinking about how, post-Beatles, many big bands were invested in the notion of all members writing and singing, i.e "the integrity of the band." and I thought of another huge 70s band and how their roles line up with the Eagles…in both, the two principals held the hand of the less accomplished songwriters for big hits, but nonetheless kept themselves at arm's length from 'em…
Gene/Don: the dark heart of assholeishness; thinker of big thoughts
Paul/Glenn: the master of ceremonies; keeps eye on the ball musically
Peter/Randy: skittish, sensitive singer of big hit ballads, been around the block longer than the other guys
Ace/Joe: requires no unpacking
Eric/ Timothy: dependable, happy to be there, doesn't make waves
Bob Kulick/ Bernie Leadon: the former is a longtime associate of Kiss, would have been in the band in place of Ace if he wasn't bald
Vinnie/Felder: drives the two principals nuts for refusing to obey, having made important creative contributions they dislike acknowledging,
This leaves Stuart Smith = Tommy thayer; danny Kortchmar = Bruce Kulick…but what about Eric Singer?
Irving = Bill Aucoin; Geffen = Neil Bogart
So who's the JD Souther of the Kissuverse? Jackson? the jack tempchin?
― veronica moser, Thursday, 19 September 2013 11:42 (twelve years ago)
JD Southern = Desmond Child?
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 19 September 2013 11:47 (twelve years ago)
J.D. Souther = J.D. Souther
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2013 11:49 (twelve years ago)
"Good Day In Hell"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/trade/covers/EaglesGoodDayInHellBack.jpg
http://youtu.be/x0VuxWbhgdQ
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2013 12:27 (twelve years ago)
kinda hellish to listen to right now. but i didn't sleep well last night.
This is wretched. Guitars sound okay, but what's the point when they're playing this?
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 19 September 2013 12:34 (twelve years ago)
really digging your photo curation, Mr Seward!
yeah this song is lousy.
― veronica moser, Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:04 (twelve years ago)
even their feet are ugly
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:18 (twelve years ago)
I guess this is where Felder came in
my reaction to the first few seconds was, "This would be better with Walsh" ... then they started singing and it became a good day in hell
― Brad C., Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:19 (twelve years ago)
Was expecting much more with Felder coming in. "Good Day in Hell" would've been a fine song title for KISS, so there's that for you veronica.
― pplains, Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:37 (twelve years ago)
i like the KISS analogy.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:43 (twelve years ago)