Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

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i don't know what you mean by 'bait and switch': Wasn't trying to be confusing here, just meant that the rest of the record, which uses the titles from popular songs, may actually contain recognizable parts of those songs, as opposed to "zip a dee doo dah", which bears no resemblance to the original. I haven't heard it so I don't know.

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:02 (twelve years ago)

ah, well my first impression was that it is like bailey's 'ballads' in that regard. i thought i heard some resemblances here and there, but they weren't necessarily strong ones, and of course i don't know all the songs that well anyway. i'll have to test it on 'onward christian soldiers'.

i did notice on 'white christmas' that i was like, 'white christmas??'.

j., Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:05 (twelve years ago)

Hey grandavis,

Thanks for shouting me out above. Of possible interest to those on this thread is an interview with Nathan Bowles I just published:

http://adhoc.fm/post/nathan-bowles-talks-pingy-banjos-black-dirt-studio/

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:21 (twelve years ago)

My guess is that it is mostly "???" moments in relation to the Orcutt cover songs, which is fine but not as interesting to me unless there is some real thought behind the uses of the names/song titles etc., which may come out in the press surrounding the record. I'll give it a shot, as he can be an exciting player to me, but not sure I can take a whole record of it.

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:21 (twelve years ago)

And sure thing MFB, obviously I am a sucker for all of this stuff, so I appreciate it getting some press. Also of course dig the stuff people bring to this thread, so thank you man. Just read the Bowles piece, good stuff. Interesting guy, glad to have gotten to open for him and share a state.

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:26 (twelve years ago)

great interview. found this particularly exciting:

“That's the first time I've played that. I came up with the tuning first, and then I wrote that when I was on vacation. It's not so melodic-- little clusters of chords, and more textural. There's a section where I repeat one chord over and over.”

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:30 (twelve years ago)

Pretty sure that I saw this song last time he played live, or at least something similar. He did a long one that sat on a figure for a long time, and it sounded like a country-kraut hybrid. But yeah, last time I saw him the room was really quiet and he played a lot of textural shit that was really cool, highlighting that "not pingy" aspect of banjo tonality, and just tonality in general, which completely my thing.

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:36 (twelve years ago)

Uh, is completely my thing that is.

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:36 (twelve years ago)

Salsburg songs I have heard are really good, his techinque and taste are airtight, but maybe a bit dry to me. Need to dig in more.

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:45 (twelve years ago)

country-kraut hybrid

Holy shit this is the most intriguing combination to me.

Evan, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:56 (twelve years ago)

I want to hear twang and spacey mountain strings married to a steady meditative krautrock drumming (bass bass bass snare bass bass bass snare bass bass bass snare)

Evan, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 19:00 (twelve years ago)

Kinda fits the bill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmreFk03OU8

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 19:02 (twelve years ago)

Make sure you get to the middle of that track too, real pretty ....

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 19:05 (twelve years ago)

I want to hear twang and spacey mountain strings married to a steady meditative krautrock drumming (bass bass bass snare bass bass bass snare bass bass bass snare)

you rang?

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 20:16 (twelve years ago)

redialing

Evan, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 20:23 (twelve years ago)

i like that colin l. track!
country-kraut -- henry flynt might be your dude.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4TiSXSOgCk

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 20:24 (twelve years ago)

was gonna suggest harry flynt. cool stuff.

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 20:41 (twelve years ago)

Everyone should check out Henry Flint, he is great (and totally weird)!

Also, don't let Colin Langenus's dreads scare you away. a) He cut them off when USAisaMonster broke up and b) he is the best kind of weirdo hippie/punk/wild man. That tune and album (Infinite Ease) in particular is great, but I love most stuff he does. It is definitely from another planet a lot of the time though, so you gotta be ready for some head-scratching.

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 20:47 (twelve years ago)

Danny Grody's new album Between Two Worlds (on Three Lobed) probably qualifies here. He's a good friend and I think this is maybe the best piece of music he's done; I loved Tarentel and the Drift but for some reason the mostly-12 string guitar only stuff on this is pretty transcendental. We played a show with him last week.

akm, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 20:51 (twelve years ago)

Evan - If you want me to send you a repetitive drum beat to loop and twang on, lemme know! I'm eager to take requests :)
Ps I've been playing for like 3 months, so I'm not Jaki.

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 21:07 (twelve years ago)

maybe too uh, disco, for this thread, but endless groove + guitar..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUKBD_tO2io

ian, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 21:58 (twelve years ago)

I'd try and record something on your drum beat too!

Also, really digging Colin L. Orchestra

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 21:59 (twelve years ago)

Lyrics of 'Numbers Hall' are cracking me up

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 22:00 (twelve years ago)

anyone who wants a free drum beat, just send me your email and we can figure something out!

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 22:31 (twelve years ago)

ps i can't play disco beats yet

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 22:31 (twelve years ago)

Colin L. is a funny guy for sure, but in a pretty unique way. He is definitely doing his own thing, and he is a hell of a guitar player in his own right, so not a super-stretch for this thread. (I should say that I have known Colin for a long time, so I am a little biased). Still, I find "You Need Sleep" to be something I could listen to for a looooonnnnnggg time, like certain Neu! songs that I don't want to end.

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:07 (twelve years ago)

I'll definitely hit you up for a drum beat!!

Henry Flynt is definitely hitting the spot.

Because I was totally imagining NEU - Hallogallo with a slide guitar with that genre combo.

Evan, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:16 (twelve years ago)

Hey AKM, just letting you know we have been repping the D. Paul Grody record for sure. I have only heard a few tracks and really liked it, but haven't heard the whole thing yet. It is on the list though.

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:19 (twelve years ago)

Also, that Jack Adkins track is kind of great.

Evan, I really liked the track you posted! Your playing sounded great, cool in the tuning for sure. Look forward to hearing more.

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:21 (twelve years ago)

Oddly enough a buddy of mine decided on a whim to start putting out 7"s of covers from the Secret Museum of Mankind series, the first of which has me on it backing up Colin L. and my friend (who is the drummer). I actually posted one of the originals above, a Greek song by A. Kostis, who is on that Dust to Digital set of Greek music discussed a bit upthread. I have never had anyone put out anything I am on, so it is very cool and exciting for me, but also some of you may dig it. Kind of a Sun City Girls/power trio take on the song, which I just freaking love. The original is where it's at, but this was fun to make.

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:33 (twelve years ago)

oh man, that's super cool... how many of those 7"s are out there? i want them all!

ian, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:34 (twelve years ago)

Stuff is just up on soundcloud, and yeah, I am pretty proud of it even though I am mostly holding the other two guys back. My friend had a woman put some vocals on it too, which add a nice touch:

https://soundcloud.com/casualacidtearecordings/greece-kaike-ena-sholio-by

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:35 (twelve years ago)

Ian, remember that gift package I mentioned sending you ....

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:36 (twelve years ago)

Apparently Vol. III is in the works (will be the band Residual Echoes, whom the guy running the label started drumming with recently). Oddly enough I met all of these people in little Charlottesville, Virginia.

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:38 (twelve years ago)

My friend had a woman put some vocals on it too, which add a nice touch:
you mean a popol vuh touch!! i wanna be the drummer for this band!!

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:39 (twelve years ago)

:D

ian, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:46 (twelve years ago)

also your friend the drummer totally rules
hi 5 that guy for me

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:48 (twelve years ago)

also, grandavis, we are ALMOST done painting our room so i should be able to get that poster out to you asap.. i have not forgotten!

ian, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:51 (twelve years ago)

He is a great drummer, I have been lucky enough to play with him when I can. He was an early fan of Grand Banks, and played with us sometimes when we felt like adding drums to the mix. He is now playing with a bunch of people all over, including Colin L. and Residual Echoes.

Also La Lechera, seems like you are on your way to being in a similar band judging by the drum requests. You just gotta post more in the thread and it seems like a lock.

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:51 (twelve years ago)

Oh really Ian, please do not sweat it. I am in no rush to get that flyer, it is just so cool that it exists.

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:52 (twelve years ago)

one can hope! honestly i don't know how to do this. i have been playing for 3 months! i'm just really excited about it and not sure what to do once this round of lessons is over. i guess i am looking for good role models and i think my teacher is one, and your friend seems like one too. like i said, i can't do a ton, but i will take requests. it's not hard for me to record something on my phone and email it. i just feel weird even entering these conversations i guess. you all are nice people, fortunately.

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:58 (twelve years ago)

sorry for the emo

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:59 (twelve years ago)

Believe me, music is one of the few things that makes me feel good about people in general, and the folks I have met through music are pretty much the best (though of coures some total fucks out there as well). But yeah, I am very lucky to have gotten some encouragement along the way, and some of it from this very thread.

Also, not knowing is not really a barrier. You just gotta find one sound that works for you and then go from there. The drummer for Spacin' at the Paradise of Bachelors Hopscotch deal played just a floor tom, snare and like a ride symbol, no kick or anything. Sub Moe Tucker style, and it worked and was totally cool.

grandavis, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 00:04 (twelve years ago)

Isn't that what Low does?

Evan, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 00:32 (twelve years ago)

And thank you for the kind words about my little audio file up there. I'm having issues putting myself out there. I think I'll have more confidence in my more established numbers but I still don't think they measure up to everyone else's submissions. Really appreciate the encouragement though! It means a lot.

Evan, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 00:35 (twelve years ago)

Digging Colin L. Orchestra a lot. Thread really delivering...

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 08:05 (twelve years ago)

Ahh cool Elvis, glad you like that. That album "Infinite Ease" is great in my opinion. The first song-suite and second song especially.

Low drums are especially minimal, but yeah pretty much the same setup.

grandavis, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 14:09 (twelve years ago)

ha, i kind of want my own lechera drum beat too. we could easily pull together a country kraut LP between all of us here. and then pass it off as some recently discovered 70s private press LP from bulgaria. ka-ching!

tylerw, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:04 (twelve years ago)

ok! i keep dreaming of the day when i can make my super heavy danger bird dreams come true but until then, we have technology. just send me a message and your request will be fulfilled within a few business days.

no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:09 (twelve years ago)

Country-kraut?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G_msX9iHwg&feature=youtu.be

grandavis, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:02 (twelve years ago)


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