Is Everybody Who Edits the Village Voice Really This Stupid?

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i don;t know what the deal is in Mass with the whole sponsor thing. maria had to give her license and registration to the dmv people. it's weird. and the first i had ever heard of it.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

drivers tests scare the hell out of me. I've never taken one, and I turn 30 in a month. maybe I should do it already (haha choruses of "um DUH" to follow)

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

that gypsy brass stuff by Fanfare Savalle is awesome! its faster than most deathmetal!

― chaki in charge (chaki), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

it does feel weird to be 36 and sitting next to teenz all giddy and stuff. but what the hey. there was actually one non-teen from africa gettting her first american license.

the cop asked me if i was nervous. i said, hell yeah! and i know how to drive! even though i hadn't done it in so long. it's that spotlight/public-speaking/performance nerves thing. it makes me feel like i'm going nuts.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

It can be fun to try reading Blount's posts in the voice of Ernest Hemingway; and also try reading Chuck's posts in the voice of Jack Kerouac, with a saxophone improvisation in the background.

― moley, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't have my license and I'm 27 and, this is crucial, RESIDENT ILX CAR DORK. I can name every single model* De Tomaso produced from 1967 to 1980, but I have never parallel parked in my life.

*Vallelunga, Mangusta, Pantera, Longchamp and Deauville.

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Those of you who didn't have a drivers' liscence before the end of high school must not have grown up in the suburbs ...

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

nate there's only like 22 people in america that really know how to parallel park, i wouldn't worry about that.

― blount, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anybody else who got their drivers license immediately after their 16th birthday feel like doing the cabbage patch right now?

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Hell no.

― Carl Winslow and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i did okay parallel parking with the cones today! just like on the brady bunch or something. i actually kept parking even after i had done it correctly so that my car was perfectly spaced between the cones. this amused the cop. i asked if it was okay and he said: "yeah, it was fine, i don't know what the hell all that other stuff was."

i grew up in the suburbs, but i was away at bad boys school in rhode island when i turned 16. and when i got back home i was way too busy doing drugs and drinking to get my license. i owe a lot to my drunk and high freinds for driving me around until i was 18. when i was 19 i moved to philly and was safe from carland.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Those of you who didn't have a drivers' liscence before the end of high school must not have grown up in the suburbs ...

hahahahaha try again!

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)

16 year old kids are the worst drivers in the world. there oughta be a law.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

that gypsy brass stuff by Fanfare Savalle is awesome! its faster than most deathmetal!

Made me think of plenty of ska -- and early Fishbone too, which I'm sure would make you happy. ;-)

Those of you who didn't have a drivers' liscence before the end of high school must not have grown up in the suburbs ...

Coronado, CA is the ultimate suburb! It's an ISLAND in San Diego Bay!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The Twin Cities transit system has improved somewhat, though the crucial thing is getting rides to the grocery store; groceries on the bus = UGH FUCK NO. If I got a car it'd be pretty much strictly for groceries and errands and aimless nice-weather day-off cruising, since I live half a mile from work. Also, if I got a car it would totally be a '91 Supra. Or a 180SX.

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I am certainly a worse driver now that I was in my late teens. Now I live in the city and I never drive. I'm way out of practice. On the few occasions when I do drive, I'm less comfortable than I ever have been.

xpost -- how did you guys survive in the suburbs without driver liscences?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)

how did you guys survive in the suburbs without driver liscences?

The library was down the street and I could walk to my record store, what more did I need?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:17 (twenty-one years ago)

the bus, duh.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i didn't like driving maria's chevy truck when i started practicing again. we bought a used 99 ford escort and it's really easy to drive. plus, it's better for the whole toddler thing. rufus can actually see the road now. in the truck he had to be in one of those little truck jump seats or whatever you call them. all he saw was sky back there.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

On Coronado? This isn't Manhattan we're talking about!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

groceries on the bus during winter = teh suck. snow = wet floors to make the bags break, oh my!

grocery shopping = bus to, cab back.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

haha I'm moving to philly to be safe from carland in eight months! I can drive but I don't like to

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)

my friends drove in high school. and two of my best friends LOVED driving. my friend maggie had a vw microbus that we practically lived in. she lived right down the street from me. i worked across the street from my house(!) at the little old general store when i was 17/18. it was the only store near me for miles. and they sold beer that i would help myself to.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)

it's actually not so bad driving on this island cuz it's so small and all. there aren't any traffic lights here! which can make intersections a little confusing. but in the winter there are hardly any cars. the summer will be a lot different though. the population jumps dramatically. From about 15,000 people to over a 100,000 people.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Anthony, where are you moving to in Philly? Do you know yet?

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

with the way the state is handling the SEPTA situation, philly is edging closer to carland. as of march 1 it'll be 3 bux a stroll on the bus, trolley, or subway. it's gotten completely out of hand, and with a federal gov't clearly interested in the livelihood of the internal combustion engine, it probably won't change. but really, this is a bipartisan failure.

i say this as a philadelphian (pennsport pride!) who doesn't look forward to paying more than a new yorker for our version of metrocard (which can only be bought at the beginning of the month) for less service.

― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Anthony, where are you moving to in Philly? Do you know yet?

not yet (I'll start looking eventually but I just know I'm not getting another lease here in State College), but I'd like to be walking distance from south street, I think

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The bus and subway were fine for getting to work and school, but when going out it was much nicer to take a car. Also, Toronto's late night public transit was ass (and still is), so the car was quite the necessity if you wanted to be out late.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

The library was down the street and I could walk to my record store, what more did I need?
This post demands some sort of instant iconic status.

The Twin Cities transit system has improved somewhat
C'mon, Nate, take the skyway.

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i walked everywhere in philly. i walked and walked and walked. i always lived in center city. near rittenhouse square mostly. near 20th street mostly. 20th and sansom, 20th and pine. always around there. i only took buses early on when i worked in olde city and i was too hungover to walk. i would walk to north philly, south philly, west philly. i loved it. oh, and cabs. those i took at night sometimes. i did live in west philly briefly in the 80's. i liked it there fine too. i will never walk that much again probably.and i always lived near where i worked for the most part. never more then 10 blocks.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Is everybody who writes for Pitchfork this stupid????

walking is great.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 05:51 (twenty-one years ago)

God. Seeing Chuck stick his neck out for Northern State and A.R.E. Weapons makes me want to take back everything negative that I've said about him and replace those statements with bullets.

― Carl Winslow and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 05:54 (twenty-one years ago)

(kidding of course, life is rad!)

― Carl Winslow and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 05:54 (twenty-one years ago)

And July 18th, 2003 is BEFORE August 5th 2003, isn't it?

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 06:10 (twenty-one years ago)

The Twin Cities transit system has improved somewhat

C'mon, Nate, take the skyway.

but i heard it don't move at all like a subway.

[apologizes. turns off computer. goes to bed.]

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 06:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone else find it unusual that within the last couple dozen posts on a thread that purportedly has NOTHING to do with driving, FIVE posters don't have driver's licenses (actually FOUR now that Scott's got his but you get my point: it seems like a lot)?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)

No, because this is a High Correlation Between Who Spend Way Too Much Money and Time Listening to Music and Reading Books and Comix and Things and Thinking and Talking And Writing About These Things *With* People Who Don't Take Care Of Business That Regular Boring People Seem to Take Care of Pretty Easily Shocka!

xpost:
fcc, I wish I had done that an hour ago. But unfortunately I am doing another Barbra Mandrell and burning the Midnight Oil.

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

More to the point, jaymc, I think there was some air-clearing subject-changing going on there.

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

This is a seriously schizophrenic thread.
Now let's talk about Lil' Jon.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh I know, Ken, it still surprised me, tho. ;-)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:26 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost:
This has become like one of those One Thread Fits All Last Threads Standing from Les Dix-sept Jours de la Nuit

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:28 (twenty-one years ago)

burning the Midnight Oil.

surely one of the most productive things that can be done with a midnight oil record. ;-)

― nedateurist (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 08:02 (twenty-one years ago)

he always capitalizes.

― Carl Winslow and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)

foiled again!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 08:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Better luck next time. And as it is, I did sell off what Midnight Oil I owned years back, so you're onto something.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

reading this thread reminded me of my bus ride home last night:

a blind lady w/cane got on. one aged/disabled row was empty, one was filled by a homeless woman and her garbage-bagged possesions. blind lady insisted on sitting next to her. "Move your shit, bitch! No, I don't want to sit in that seat, I don't like THAT seat. This is for the aged and disabled..."
Suddenly she's standing up and her cane is poised about three inches from the other woman's face. "Don't Be Fooled By The Eyes!"
"Don't YOU be fooled by them eyes, bitch!"
"That's right. You're a bitch but I'm a bigger bitch..."
(inaudible comment from bus driver)
"Go ahead, call the cops! I'm not sitting in that other seat. Don't Be Fooled By The Eyes!"
The cane is hovering, the homeless woman isn't backing down, when a commanding voice issues from the back of the bus.
"SHUT THE FUCK UP, BOT A YAS! I had to work all day, what did you do? We didn't pay two dollars to hear you argue all the way uptown." The ride continued in silence, the two women still sitting next to each other with their heads turned facing the other way.

― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

This is a really depressing thread: having been an original poster, I've been away from ILM for a year now for various reasons, but I'm dipping my toes back in the water to see if it's warm. On this evidence, not. I like Chuck's style, and Accidental Evolution is by far the best book about music I've ever read. (And not just on the litmus test question 'does it make you want to hear the music being written about' but in terms of being smart and funny and taking a position and doing what I see the job of the critic to be). Which doesn't mean it's not wrong to call him to task on particular comments. But one thing people do seem to have forgotten is that you judge an editor as an editor on the work of their contributors, and on the shape of their beat as a whole. VV music section is the only mainstream press music coverage I read weekly. Yes there is an agenda, yes it fits with what Chuck has written elsewhere, and yes I happen to agree with it, largely. Hurray for me. If you don't, you don't, but this kind of barracking is sad.

― alext (alext), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously, anthony, if you are planning to spend a lot of time ride public transportation in Philadelphia, you'd better monitor the current crisis with SEPTA. $3 fares is madness.

I mostly walk. Like scott, I used to walk all over the place, from the so-called Art Museum area to Indian grocery stores in West Philadelphia, etc. I think the whole thing was a mistake though. I wish I'd learned to drive, like normal people. It's ultimately very limiting not to be able to get around that way.

― RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i just realized that chuck is sean salisbury and amateurist is john clayton

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 6 January 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't even know who sean salisbury and john clayton are!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 6 January 2005 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

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