Not crazy about this one, but "Saturday Night" is lovely; the first new-to-me Eagles track I've really liked so far.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Monday, 9 September 2013 13:19 (twelve years ago)
this experience was leaving me bored and irritated, so i gave up but then today i decided to give it a try.
i guess this song is ok? does he say "you know there ain't no cost of wheat?" the lyrics to this song are p weak (like every eagles song i've ever heard) but the music/his voice/the style of singing are pleasant enough. that's the most positive thing i can think of to say. it kinda reminds me of firefall and i like them.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 9 September 2013 13:37 (twelve years ago)
the jam at the end was pretty good too
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 9 September 2013 13:38 (twelve years ago)
I liked the jam, too.
― carl agatha, Monday, 9 September 2013 13:42 (twelve years ago)
i used to think it was dumb when people said that punk rock saved us from prog rock and arena rock or whatever but i'm starting to think it makes sense that punk was trying to save us from eagles.
― scott seward, Monday, 9 September 2013 14:02 (twelve years ago)
"cause to weep"
― zvookster, Monday, 9 September 2013 14:09 (twelve years ago)
I think it was at this point in the album that my wife came in the room, paused to listen for a moment, and told me I might as well be listening to Bread.
But I like this one.
― Brad C., Monday, 9 September 2013 14:13 (twelve years ago)
"So come 1975 or whenever,, they're good enough to put out a killer ten-tracker, seasoned enough pros to cash in properly, yet average enough to not attract diehards and hence were able to keep their bad bits unknown and effectively be launching as a new band. I can't think of anyone else who quite meets all these tests."
this is a good point--though it's not quite the same parallel, the Bee Gees and Fleetwood Mac also rebooted themselves in '75 as well.
missed "Saturday Night." have little to say about it but that it's the only full band composition?, suggesting maybe it was cobbled together from a couple of half-finished pieces the band. And did they do the Band-esque mic-passing from Henley to Meisner again?
"bitter creek": as odes to peyote go, this works. But Leadon's aesthetic of laziness and spaced-out meandering can only go so far before it starts feeling oppressive in its laid-back way.
― col, Monday, 9 September 2013 14:15 (twelve years ago)
hahaha I would rather listen to Bread than more than half of the Eagles songs we've heard so far in this thread, but I'm a total sucker for 70s AM soft rock.
― carl agatha, Monday, 9 September 2013 14:17 (twelve years ago)
The last two songs've been keepers IMO.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 9 September 2013 14:21 (twelve years ago)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Springs_Massacre
idk if there's any real connection -- probably they just liked the sound of the placename -- but an interesting article nonetheless
― zvookster, Monday, 9 September 2013 14:21 (twelve years ago)
i love Bread. Guitar Man and Manna might be my favorite albums. they were such a great studio band. and much more varied than people might think if all they know is the hits. and most people probably only know the hits. all kinds of goodness on Bread albums.
― scott seward, Monday, 9 September 2013 14:32 (twelve years ago)
(I noted the same about Bread upthread....)
Desperado is the only Eagles album I own on vinyl (or on any physical or digital format), and I bought it largely for "Bitter Creek and its gorgeous CSN&Y-esque harmonies toward the end at 2:06-2:23 and again from 3:15 to the end of the song. I didn't until last week know this song was part of the album's "concept", but it works on it's own too. Heard it on an AAA station mid-'80s and was surprised to learn this was an Eagles song. One of their best.
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Monday, 9 September 2013 14:56 (twelve years ago)
So Firefall comes along, takes one look at the Eagles catalogue and says, "'Bitter Creek', that's what we should base our entire sound on."
Nice rattlesnake sound with the tambourine, though.
― pplains, Monday, 9 September 2013 15:01 (twelve years ago)
I love this. Like the percussion sounds and the tea-chest bass - it's like some kids have rigged up a skiffle band, only with really expensive guitars and mics, plus expert harmonising. its gorgeous CSN&Y-esque harmonies toward the end at 2:06-2:23 and again from 3:15 to the end of the song otm, and I dig the guitarwork throughout.
The slow pace really works here, giving it an air of menace, heat and laziness as appropriate. But importantly balanced out by drop-ins and unexpected twists, rhythms and playing. It keeps it interesting, unlike so much of the crap we've been sorting through to get here. The best yet.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 September 2013 15:15 (twelve years ago)
this reminds me of pink floyd a bit in the carefully mic-ed fake blues, melody lines & high school poetry
― zvookster, Monday, 9 September 2013 15:24 (twelve years ago)
playing catch-up
so far digging "Outlaw Man"....good chorus...really good guitar solo too...really nice basslines in the sped-up part...
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 9 September 2013 15:56 (twelve years ago)
"Bitter Creek"'s a good 'un. CSNY-esque with the emphasis on the 'Y'. Kinda wish the "jam part" was...jammier(?).
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 9 September 2013 18:53 (twelve years ago)
Bread >>> Eagles
― |citation needed| (will), Monday, 9 September 2013 23:32 (twelve years ago)
So glad I'm not alone re Bread.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 02:19 (twelve years ago)
the people who know KNOW. you know?
― scott seward, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 03:12 (twelve years ago)
Bread is Good.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 03:26 (twelve years ago)
Can I join the Bread love in?
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 10:34 (twelve years ago)
"Doolin-Dalton/Desperado(Reprise)"
http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/music/2008/galleries/eagles-long-run-photos-from-the-seventies-and-beyond/the-eagles-gallery-1973-73662/500x595/20777681-20777683-large.jpg
http://youtu.be/k8TigipC8dY
― scott seward, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 12:47 (twelve years ago)
Bernie about to hurl in that photo
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 12:48 (twelve years ago)
outlaw showdown, check; queens of diamonds and hearts, check; twisted fate turning the tables, check; stolen dreams, paid in regret, check; hard when you're all alone in the center ring, check; stardust, check
don't understand why people bust on the Eagles' lyrics, they've got everything in there
― Brad C., Tuesday, 10 September 2013 13:14 (twelve years ago)
the last few songs have been good! this is a halfway decent record i guess.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 13:52 (twelve years ago)
I dunno. My load wasn't as loosened with this one.
I'm a sucker for a reprise. More rock albums should have overtures too.
― pplains, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 13:53 (twelve years ago)
The harmonies on this thing remind me of Big Star.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 13:54 (twelve years ago)
i wish the reprise would make a comeback. it makes albums so album-y. one of the reasons i dig the first bear in heaven record from '09 is that is snuck in a reprise.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 13:58 (twelve years ago)
but do you want a "Hotel California" reprise
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 13:59 (twelve years ago)
i don't know! i might!
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 13:59 (twelve years ago)
More than a Wasted Years reprise! [[SPOILER]]
What do you call a "sneak preview" on an album, like "Dreams Reoccurring" occurring before "Reoccurring Dreams" on Zen Arcade?
― pplains, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 14:00 (twelve years ago)
Catching up..."Bitter Creek" is decent, but it just kinda sits there. If it was played during a particularly reflective/moody scene in Firefly, I'd dig it in that context.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 14:11 (twelve years ago)
i wish the reprise would make a comeback.
awesome sentence.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 14:14 (twelve years ago)
hahaha. "oh when will I hear a reprise again?"
― pplains, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 14:16 (twelve years ago)
Wow, this reprise is the epitome of album filler. Pretty sure the reason the cymbals are so high in the mix is because Johns fell asleep at the board.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 14:20 (twelve years ago)
This just drives home how hard Desperado is trying to be a concept album.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 16:08 (twelve years ago)
if a Hotel California reprise was just Felder/Walsh guitar duelling then YES
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 16:20 (twelve years ago)
Aw, this is good! They picked the right songs, gave them nice arrangements, had dilly banjos and falsetti drop by like wasted friends - this is a proper reprise, kudos.
This album hits more than misses, I think - the closing run is pretty excellent, and before that the non-hits are mostly boring rather than offensive. You can see them getting there - if there's any boilerplate filler on the next one I'll be disappointed in them.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 16:33 (twelve years ago)
i got sidetracked & didn't comment on as many songs for this album but overall i really do enjoy this album, ismael otm that there's no real stinkers
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 16:34 (twelve years ago)
don't forget 'faithless women'
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 16:38 (twelve years ago)
But no 'CHUG'!
Like this. Prefer the "Desperado" reprise to the original. Seems like it wouldn't hurt a Classic Rock station to slip this in every once in awhile.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 16:53 (twelve years ago)
faithless women pretty much essential to the whole outlaw = rocker enterprise
― Brad C., Tuesday, 10 September 2013 17:11 (twelve years ago)
vibey outtro of "bitter creek" probably my fav eagle moment yet
this reprise blows ass
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 17:39 (twelve years ago)
seems as if we are bitterly divided on the reprise...
― scott seward, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 17:53 (twelve years ago)
BITTERLY i said! yeah i know nobody wants to fight about eagles. anyway, as a reward for getting through this album you get to hear this awesome epic earth opera track. just played this album today and i think it holds up. you got the west coast/dead moments. the jazzrock psych stuff. the olde-tyme moments courtesy of david grisman. you get a little bit of everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC-nj68X19c
― scott seward, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:26 (twelve years ago)
plus, billy mundi on drums. tarfumes should check him out. he's kind of the reason to buy Rhinoceros records if you ask me. i'm not a huge Mothers fan, but he could really shake a stick.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:30 (twelve years ago)
BITTERLY i said!
Somebody's gonna hurt someone before this thread is through.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:37 (twelve years ago)
heartache tonight y/n
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:38 (twelve years ago)