Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

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desert heat killing it. hopefully they are doing some more recording while they're all in the same place...

tylerw, Friday, 6 September 2013 19:57 (twelve years ago)

No joke. Kinda hope that all of the people in that room right now spend the next week all recording together in their various (or new) incarnations. That could be one damn productive crew, not that they are slacking too much these days.

grandavis, Friday, 6 September 2013 20:07 (twelve years ago)

btw you can get that cian nugent & the cosmos matador single ove ron bandcamp now. it is great - http://ciannugent.bandcamp.com/album/hire-purchase

tylerw, Friday, 6 September 2013 20:17 (twelve years ago)

Aww cool, thanks!

grandavis, Friday, 6 September 2013 20:24 (twelve years ago)

i missed all this streaming, i was in white plains :(

otoh, yes you def need to check out tom carter! i dunno which of his solo albums i think is best; i think he's best live, really. and the eleven twenty-nine record (with marc orleans) is great as well... charalambides are one of those bands i've loved for going on uh, i dunno, 12 or 13 years now. and i discovered them even a bit 'later' in their career!

ian, Friday, 6 September 2013 20:32 (twelve years ago)

In my opinion Tom Carter definitely put in the best set of the day, though I guess Thurston and Moloney can win me over still. But yeah, it was so good, one of the best sets I have heard from him, though I haven't seen him in person solo, just listened to some live stuff and checked youtubes. He was really on though.

grandavis, Friday, 6 September 2013 20:39 (twelve years ago)

yeah, i know a little carter/charlambrides, just haven't got deep into it -- that set convinced me i need to get deep into it.
lol at thurston busting out queen of noise!

tylerw, Friday, 6 September 2013 20:55 (twelve years ago)

what i heard was great! velvets cover was fun

had to stop tho was getting too many skips and it was driving me nuts.

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 September 2013 20:58 (twelve years ago)

Desert Heat had the mist skips, for me. Other sets have been alright, but maybe it's my computer. Headed home to sleep and then get up at 6 in the morning for Raleigh departure!

grandavis, Friday, 6 September 2013 21:02 (twelve years ago)

Uhh, most skips.

grandavis, Friday, 6 September 2013 21:02 (twelve years ago)

godspeed! i'll be there with you in spirit.

tylerw, Friday, 6 September 2013 21:03 (twelve years ago)

also grandavis -- i went to mail that flier to you but couldn;t because it's currently blocked by boxes of junk (we're painting our room so everything gotshifted around weird) but it'll be in mail soon! next week, prob, as i hope we finish the room painting this weekend.

ian, Friday, 6 September 2013 21:03 (twelve years ago)

Thanks Tyler! Will give a full report, though hopefully someone will tape it all. My buddy says that Cory from Three Lobed tries to tape everything good, so I may have a line on some things.

No worries Ian, just excited that you are willing to do that, very cool of you.

grandavis, Friday, 6 September 2013 21:05 (twelve years ago)

i know the nyc taper guys caught a bunch of hopscotch fest stuff last year -- and i'm sure someone out there is grabbing the live stream...

tylerw, Friday, 6 September 2013 21:06 (twelve years ago)

Just found a copy of Bruce Langhorne's The Hired Hand Score!

Haven't listened to it all the way through yet, but I'm psyched.

Evan, Sunday, 8 September 2013 02:15 (twelve years ago)

hired hand is soooooo good!

ian, Sunday, 8 September 2013 02:39 (twelve years ago)

I really like this guys EP:

<img src="http://f0.bcbits.com/img/a3099648099_2.jpg";>

http://devinmccutchen.bandcamp.com/
unfortunately it's only streamable, but it's fun to listen and very diverse.

On another note - I found out that Zachary Hay released a new record as "Green Glass"

http://www.50milesofelbowroom.com/artist/340-green-glass.html

He previously released some american primitive/outsider stuff as Bronze Horse and The Dove Azima.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/MdByFSStRNw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

And... Hired Hand is awesome, yes.
And the new Zachary Cale record too.
He's a hard working guy and I think the new album will spread more wide. At least I hope so.
I'm looking forward to see him in Atlanta next month (after met him two times here in Germoney :)

DFBM (Nikolaus Höhle), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 10:05 (twelve years ago)

I am too stupid to use this board :)

here is the Dove Azima thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdByFSStRNw

DFBM (Nikolaus Höhle), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 10:09 (twelve years ago)

just bought a new microphone this morning, going to do some home recording...pretty excited...the mic (Blue Yeti USB) i got for $80 off of craigslist....plugs right into my PC laptop and I used Audacity to record (pretty easy to use program)...anyway first attempt and i'm really pleased with the quality of the sound you get from the microphone. technology is fucking crazy to me, i can't even imagine this is a USB mic remembering what they used to sound like.

this is a new song "Frogtown Saturday" (in open C)

https://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/frogtown-saturday

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 16:36 (twelve years ago)

Sounds good! Sound and songwise. Really pretty. What kind of guitar do you have?

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 17:08 (twelve years ago)

a seagull (got it off of craigslist for $85 cuz it had a badly repaired crack that doesn't seem to affect sound or playing etc)....but they are pretty nice guitars! made in canada...but MUCH cheaper than martins, etc....def worth keeping your eye out...but it was a great deal, i think it was originally like $500

they have dumb looking headstocks tho

basically seems like martin's don't go for less than a grand anymore hardly so i just wrote them off :/

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 17:23 (twelve years ago)

Not much time to post right now, but I came to check in and damn UMS, that track sounds great! As global states, the tune and the recording, good job man. Keep em coming.

grandavis, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 17:52 (twelve years ago)

Nikolaus, I dig that Dove Azima thing, as you call it. Definitely on the weird end of the spectrum, which is refreshing. Has a mysterious sound to it, kind of reminds me of a primitive take on some of the stuff Steven R. Smith gets up to, or like acoustic demos of early Sonic Youth.

grandavis, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 17:56 (twelve years ago)

Here is the Bronze Horse release by Zachary Hay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W4U_0t25Eg&list=PL5FFB4988942C174C

I would like to listen to the "acoustic demos of early Sonic Youth". could you please give me a hint for what I have to look for?
I only know thurston moore's "12 string meditations for Jack Rose"

DFBM (Nikolaus Höhle), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:59 (twelve years ago)

not really sonic youthy but Paul Metzger (mentioned upthread) would be highly recommended for the more "out" side of this thread....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuM4wGrENzI

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 19:07 (twelve years ago)

Hah hah, the acoustic demos of early Sonic Youth don't exist as far as I know, sorry to be confusing. I meant that Dove Azima sounded something like what I imagine that would sound like. I'd perhaps like to hear it as well, but Dove Azima may have to suffice.

Metzger is cool, what a crazy dude.

grandavis, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 19:23 (twelve years ago)

i spoke w/him once (detailed upthread i think) but anyway he is a super nice guy

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 19:26 (twelve years ago)

Dude that song is my jam! a) I am a sucker for bowed guitar/banjo pretty much all the time (barring Sigur Ros who I know does this but I am not really interested, no offense Sigur Ros fans) and b) Metzger does it better than about anyone I have heard do it, amongst his many other talents. Cool that he is a nice guy as well.

grandavis, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 19:33 (twelve years ago)

I'm with you- Sigur Ros is too much melodrama.

Evan, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:26 (twelve years ago)

Can't deal with Sigur Ros either, but more to the point... everyone within ten posts of this post needs to check out R. Keenan Lawler. This isn't my usual smuggo "fuck you, you forgot xxxxxx!" hyperbole - Lawler has a completely otherworldly sound that's part mad scientist experiment, part rusted metal in a sandstorm.

http://soundcloud.com/r-keenan-lawler
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/9590-music-for-the-bluegrass-states/

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 04:13 (twelve years ago)

Gonna check out more of that R. Keenan Lawler, have seen his name around forever and listened to a track here or there, but never got to see him live or pick up a record. Like what I have heard so far, definitely a cool sound.

grandavis, Friday, 13 September 2013 13:18 (twelve years ago)

Also, I will post some Hopscotch stuff at some point as far as how the show was, a little too much going on to do so now, but here is part of the Christ Forsyth set, which was definitely the most successful/rocking and overall best sounding set of the day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2I5R7Wogx8

You'll get a sense of how beautiful and cool the venue was for a nice Saturday afternoon, as well as my soon to be very sunburned bald(ing) head. I am pretty much 4 rows back in a blue shirt next to the center aisle. Had no idea it, or me, was being filmed, so a little embarrasing. I had been up since 5:30 a.m., so I was a little delirious at this point, which kind of suited the music very well. Some woozy guitar sounds in this passage especially. He played the whole record to be release on Paradise of Bachelors in sequence.

grandavis, Friday, 13 September 2013 13:24 (twelve years ago)

Interesting Forsyth playing fact: he uses a pick, but also appeared to have a metal finger pick on his middle finger, which is a setup/playing style I've never seen before.

grandavis, Friday, 13 September 2013 14:02 (twelve years ago)

Here's MFB's Hopscotch rundown, including some words on a few thread heavy-hitters: http://adhoc.fm/post/hopsctoch-music-festival-2013/

grandavis, Friday, 13 September 2013 16:35 (twelve years ago)

So in order to rid myself of my over-fussing tendencies, I decided to do a little improv and record the first take.

It is full of mistakes but whatever that's the point of the exercise.

Tuning: DGDGmBE

More established tunes with that tuning to follow.

https://soundcloud.com/factual-1/feels-like-8

Evan, Monday, 16 September 2013 01:26 (twelve years ago)

Abrupt ending & all. I'm not sure if it is bad, but overall an uncomfortable exercise because I am both fussy & lazy so up to this point I've barely gotten anything done. I have so many songs I've been playing for 4+ years that need to be recorded properly. Not much as far as lyrics go, but this thread doesn't require that at least.

Evan, Monday, 16 September 2013 14:23 (twelve years ago)

I like it

lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:01 (twelve years ago)

:) Thanks.

I can do better though, all the tons of sloppy notes make me wince.

Evan, Monday, 16 September 2013 17:51 (twelve years ago)

Look forward to listening to this Evan, but no sound at work today. I like the look of that tuning though.

grandavis, Monday, 16 September 2013 18:02 (twelve years ago)

Yeah I've been kind of stuck on that tuning for a few years! It was an accidental discovery too.

Evan, Monday, 16 September 2013 18:05 (twelve years ago)

Hah, we really would make an interesting band perhaps. I play in a tuning I discovered by accident (well, one I adopted from one I found by accident) by leaving an electric sitting for a while with a broken string. I have been playing it for years.

grandavis, Monday, 16 September 2013 18:11 (twelve years ago)

Neat! What are the notes?

I discovered mine by finding an existing one somewhere I wanted to try out then I literally stopped tuning it halfway (in the middle of changing the G string) and got used to it.

Evan, Monday, 16 September 2013 18:19 (twelve years ago)

Dflat/Aflat/Dflat/Aflat/Aflat (I play w/ 5 strings and tune the highest 2 to the same octave). I also vary it by tuning the highest string to C, so Dflat/Aflat/Dflat/Aflat/C.

I have a couple of other minor variations on it, but mostly I play those two these days. Originally I left the low string tuned to E, but that was when playing with other people playing in standard tuning. Now that I don't do that I have mostly abandoned it. Really I feel silly about my tunings/5 string setup at times, but when it happened years ago it freed up my playing in ways that were kind of astounding, as far as getting me out of a rut and feeling like everything I played in standard tuning sounded lame, so I have a real affinity for it. Kind of a "don't spook the horse" thing I guess.

grandavis, Monday, 16 September 2013 18:33 (twelve years ago)

I discovered mine by finding an existing one somewhere I wanted to try out then I literally stopped tuning it halfway (in the middle of changing the G string) and got used to it.

I love facts like this, and hope stuff likes this always creeps into my music, i.e., accidents and just deciding stuff sounds good even if it came outta nowhere. I think every musician has stuff like this, but as far as having personality in music I think it helps to indulge this kind of urge.

grandavis, Monday, 16 September 2013 18:36 (twelve years ago)

Yes! After playing in standard for so long it got stale for me. New tunings really make everything feel fresh.

Evan, Monday, 16 September 2013 18:45 (twelve years ago)

Huh, had no idea there was an album about to come out, but apparently you can stream the new Daniel Bachman record right now:

http://www.fretboardjournal.com/audio/exclusive-stream-preview-daniel-bachmans-jesus-im-sinner

Looks like he plays some traditionals, but I can't listen right now so I haven't really dug into it yet. No info on the label either.

grandavis, Monday, 16 September 2013 20:11 (twelve years ago)

ha yeah, hadn't heard a thing about this!
looks like it's tompkins sq.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E00GBV8/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00E00GBV8&linkCode=as2&tag=fretbjourn-20

tylerw, Monday, 16 September 2013 20:15 (twelve years ago)

Hah definitely sneaky if no one on this thread had heard about it, and yeah should have figured Tompkins Square, though folks jump around labels a lot these days.

grandavis, Monday, 16 September 2013 20:18 (twelve years ago)

totally borrowed your tuning for the afternoon, grandavis. but since i play with six strings, i also jacked your idea to tune to C for the remaining string haha. think i've worked up the skeleton of a nice little ditty, though! may post it in here some day.

global tetrahedron, Monday, 16 September 2013 22:25 (twelve years ago)

Hah that is great global, would love to hear it! Would be a little strange, as I might just think it sounds like me (though you are a better player than I am), but yeah very interested to hear what someone else would do with it. I am sure it is close to some kind of commonly used tuning (obviously not too far off from DADGAD or something, just the half-steps lower), but I haven't spent much time looking into it.

By the way, did you double the high Aflats or double on the C? I just pulled out my wife's acoustic, so I might play around with a six-string version of the tuning.

grandavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 00:23 (twelve years ago)


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