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― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
and if I remember the book correctly Souther acknowledges that Geffen eyed him a few times.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
this is the only way I would have hung out with them
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― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
you would have needed that suit and a Publix bag full of poisoned nettles.
i would have a bee-cannon as well to spray them with live bees if needed
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
Souther comes off as this super Lothario who seemed to hold sway over Frey and Henley even at their peak...
and he's pretty much the only person who holds any real sway over rayna james. i'm sure she'd let him sit in the front of her jet.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
haha ok i had to look that up i've never seen nashville but glad JD is working
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
I thought Souther would be set financially for the rest of his life.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
Souther has credits on most the big imperial era Eagles tracks, with some reports claiming a bunch of those songs began with him. Very front of the plane dude.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
So Dylan is to blame for all this like "The Band" bs. Figures since he and The Grateful Dead are the only ones that ruined American music more than The Eagles.
― I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
mellow out man
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
take it easy
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
literally
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
so is desperado the template for the power ballad? are there earlier power ballads to be aware of?
it's a pretty immaculately constructed song, but it's also just so totally ridiculous.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
This is flawless of course. Why on earth did they not release it as a single though? Was that a trend at the time, holding the best thing back for the album, like Gimme Shelter or Stairway to Heaven?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, September 4, 2013 9:06 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think the A&R guys genuinely thought this wouldn't likely be a hit. Thus far, their uptempo singles tended to sell better, especially those by outside writers. The two singles that had already been released fell far short of the top 40, and were ignored outside the US. I think they wanted more crazed banjos, or at least gritty guitars on the instrumental bridge.
Is it just me, or does the string section hold onto certain notes on the outro way past their sell-by date?
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
Also: the Eagles' rise as multiplatinum threat coincided with the softening of the American and British charts. Check out the non-disco and R&B hits on the 1974-1976 charts; then El Lay studio rock rose as a complement to disco.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
desperado's just a ballad though? it's not really a power ballad imo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
Even if "Desperado" is a power ballad, there's got to be some that came before it. Like Bread for example starting in 1969 - "Make It With You" and "Baby I'm a-Want You" were the power ballads against hard rockers like "Mother Freedom" and "Truckin'". It's just that their rockers didn't become hits, so they became perceived as a (very) soft-rock act rather than a rock band balancing their rockers with AM radio-friendly power ballads.
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
but it's not a power ballad
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
its got drums kicking in midway through, strings, backup vox, it's a total power ballad!
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:10 (eleven years ago) link
...
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:10 (eleven years ago) link
you're a power ballad
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
vegemite raises a good point
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
the drums and the strings is just the way it builds to a climax, lots of ballads do this and the slightly bigger crescendo does not = 'power'
imo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
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― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
I think of "power ballad" as more a marketing term than a musical genre. It's like when an '80s pop-metal band quiets down for an uncharacteristicly slow and melodic single that wouldn't be too wimpy for the AOR stations of the day but would be palatable to top-40 or adult-contemporary tastes as well.
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:25 (eleven years ago) link
a true power ballad is ballady enough to get you out on the dancefloor for a slow dance with a girl at a junior high dance but then rocks hard enough at a certain point to make going through the motions of slow dancing seem really awkward
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
also you have to be able to picture it blaring out of a Camaro
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:29 (eleven years ago) link
you have to be able to picture it blaring out of Henley-Frey-Souther's apartment.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
jesus you guys desperado can totally be blared out of a camaro
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:35 (eleven years ago) link
desperado has no power
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:36 (eleven years ago) link
xpost your camaro maybe
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:36 (eleven years ago) link
"J.D. Souther is the only one of these soulless miscreants I would've allowed to fuck me"
jackson too girly? he was a dreamboat to most.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
he's a ponderous fellow
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
And a hitter iirc
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:42 (eleven years ago) link
i can't stand him. creepy
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:43 (eleven years ago) link
would you throw ned doheny out of bed for eating crackers?
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― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
great album that used to sell for a dollar and now sells for $$$ thanks to the young and the hip.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:46 (eleven years ago) link
So guys... I never heard early Linda ronstadt before an hour ago. This Capitol Years 2CD fucking slays in every way. Holy crap.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:49 (eleven years ago) link
Ned Doheny admitted in HC that Geffen was checking him out.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:49 (eleven years ago) link
"a true power ballad is ballady enough to get you out on the dancefloor for a slow dance with a girl at a junior high dance but then rocks hard enough at a certain point to make going through the motions of slow dancing seem really awkward"
journey and reo rule this land.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
and that scorpions song.
stiiiiiiiiiiiiiilll loving youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:53 (eleven years ago) link
Cuz you know it's youuuuu baaaabeWhenever I get weary and I've haaaad enough
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
linda ronstadt was amazing. i love her voice. would listen to 2 disc capitol thing.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
still loving you is so great. would have loved to hear linda ronstadt sing it.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
it's a badass power ballad for sure
UNLIKE DESPERADO
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
i forgot about that doheny song title "i get it up for love". says it all.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
totally. scorps kick ass on that song and still melt hearts.
I'm pretty sure we played "Desperado" as a slow dance at my school.
Eagles were big up there. It was even our mascot.
― pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link