"Why doesn't my Les Paul sound like his Les Paul?"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
^Also a phrase known to be uttered by Stephen Stills.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
when stephen stills saw neil's road crew he had to go to rehab for a month. true story.
http://ijustreadaboutthat.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/rust.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
okay, not really. but i will never not think about the part in that hotel california book where stills hallucinated that he had been a soldier in vietnam. for years apparently! possibly the weirdest tidbit in the book.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
That Vietnam thing is amazing
Other favorite Stills story is him being high in england and deciding to go visit Park McCartney, he drives his jag to his house wearing a fur coat and McCartney never answered the door
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
he's lucky McCartney didn't pretend Stills was Ringo, shout, "I'll show you all!" and toss him out of the house.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
In Shakey, somebody claims Still bought a new Ferrari (paid for in full with cash Stills carried in a shoebox) especially for the occasion of meeting Maca. He ended up totalling the car in a wreck a few days later.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
haha yeah that stills in vietnam story awesome, reminds me of reagan somehow convincing himself he liberated concentration camps in wwII. one thing i got from shakey was how much the cw in certain circles was that neil should be doing more w/ csn and stop wasting his time w/ crazy horse, the extent to which csny were a focal point of how some ppl thought of him (vs most ppl i know that generally try not to think about csny that much whereas crazy horse stuff is the whole point). anyhow enjoy 'tequila sunrise', even before i decided to abandon kneejerk hatred of the eagles (which isn't the same as abandoning hatred of the eagles) it probably would've made my top whatever eagles songs i tolerate list. one thing i'm curious about w/ this album underperforming and even the single not doing well is when exactly this and 'desperado' (which wasn't even a single) became the 'hits' we know them as today. was it w/ their inclusion on the first greatest hits album? how did 'desperado' merit inclusion on that album - did it get fm play? concert fave? hit cover version by someone else that's been supplanted by the original on classic rock radio?
― balls, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
How well did the Linda Ronstadt cover do? It was released as a single the same year...
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't know until I read HC that Desperado was a flop. I assume the title track was popular on FM radio w/out crossing over pop?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
Something like that. The eagles didn't return to singles juggernaut status til "Best of My Love", which was like the second or third one from On The Border.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
Linda's version didn't chart. I honestly can't recall either version being played on the radio when they were new.
― Same old bland-as-sand mood mouthings (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
tequila sunrise a good gateway to liking tequila, it's got that in its favor
it sounds like "Brass Buttons" with a much dumber concept
― Euler, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
god i wish there was good airplay data w/ 70s fm radio, i always wonder how/when certain classic rock chestnuts entered the playlists, esp on a national scale. did stations just play almost all of zoso immediately or did they play 'black dog' and 'rock n roll' at first (very possible as these were the singles right? 'black dog' crossed over to am top 40 amazingly) and then gave 'stairway' and 'levee' their due and then while they were still waiting for a new zep lp start playing 'misty mountain hop' and 'four sticks'? or was 'misty mountain hop' a hit out of the gate and later 'levee' got it's monolith status, the way 'levon' was a much bigger hit than 'tiny dancer' initially?
― balls, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
henley on 'tequila sunrise': I believe that was a Glenn title. I think he was ambivalent about it because he thought that it was a bit too obvious or too much of a cliché because of the drink that was so popular then. I said, 'No-Look at it from a different point of view. You've been drinking straight tequila all night and the sun is coming up!' It turned out to be a really great song.
cool story bro
― balls, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
He goes on to talk about how girls made them nervous!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
they turn into witchy women
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
...who make you eat your lunch all by yourself.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
god i wish there was good airplay data w/ 70s fm radio
Yeah, me too. This isn't much, but links below are from my local FM station circa 1978. They went from pretty much freeform to tightly formatted in 1977, but the morning show still has many holdouts from their mellow album cut daze: Dave Mason, Jackson Browne, Jesse Colin Young...
http://www.radiotapes.com/KQRS/KQRS-FM_Streetsheet_Sept_78a.pdfhttp://www.radiotapes.com/KQRS/KQRS-FM_Streetsheet_Dec_78a.pdf
― Same old bland-as-sand mood mouthings (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
thx!
― balls, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
when did AM radio stop being a thing?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
probably late 70s. Whenever the majority of cars got FM radio, basically.
in terms of "Tequila" and "Desperado," agree the 1976 best-of LP made them radio stalwarts. Not sure how much they got airplay before that.
― col, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
yeah if you go to the page for wabc music radio - http://www.musicradio77.com/index.html - you can see it transition from pop to more easy listening and then it finally makes the switch to talk.
― balls, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
i always figured the really smart people were the ones who didn't do tons of drugs. and made good money.
In that other laurel canyon book there's a quote from someone (the turtles flo and Eddie guy?) to the effect that the two ppl who didn't do coke were Nash and Neil, and the two who, today, don't have to tour to pay the bills are Nash and Neil.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
well they did coke and plenty but the same way I do chocolate ice cream: if it's offered I eat it, etc
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:16 (eleven years ago) link
i'm the same way, if publix is offering it i eat it
― balls, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
the two ppl who didn't do coke were Nash and Neil
The "booger matte" in The Last Waltz would seem to contradict this.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
Man now I'm gonna have to look up that quite. Btw that fucking azoff article was delectable. His fiancée Rochelle Cumsky!
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
I wonder if Frey called her "Rockin' Chugsky"?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:46 (eleven years ago) link
The eagles didn't return to singles juggernaut status til "Best of My Love"
I once asked my dad for a list of songs he liked so I could make him a mix tape. (He was always complaining about how my mom retained custody of his kids and his records, not necessarily in that order.)
All I remember from that last was
BEST OF MY LOVE - The EaglesBEST OF MY LOVE - The Emotions (not the same song!)
I'm getting ahead of myself. I'm trying to save up my valuable Eagles anecdotes, especially for when Don Felder enters the picture.
― pplains, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
― balls
man do you like their fried chicken? I love Publix fried chicken.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:53 (eleven years ago) link
this thread is delivering so regularly re quality anecdotes & lols & things to think baout, I think I might actually make it through their entire discography
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:53 (eleven years ago) link
the only problem with staying for the entire discography is having to look at that cackling frey and, um, what do you even call that expression on henley's face, every time.. if only ILM had a way to switch out top-of-the-page photos every so often.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
IT'S CALLED BOOKMARKING.
Sorry. Nothing against you FCC. But I don't have to see the OP every time, I don't have to worry about YouTubes, IT'S GREAT.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:11 (eleven years ago) link
NO OFFENSE TAKEN, THANK YOU! i'm just lazy, that's all. but i will try to come to my senses.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:16 (eleven years ago) link
THIS OLD THREAD STILL LOOKS THE SAME
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:25 (eleven years ago) link
I just assume everybody that was even marginally famous between 74 and maybe 87 has done coke
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:29 (eleven years ago) link
And Frey's explanation of Tequila Sunrise is some amazing real life Spinal Tap
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:30 (eleven years ago) link
bookmarking a good idea. i wanted to keep the embeds to a minimum in case anyone was crazy enough to open the whole thread and look at it. it would be possible if its just links and pictures.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:32 (eleven years ago) link
Anyone crazy enough to open this thread ~period~ deserves what they get.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
sometimes i'm afraid ilx will explode someday cuzzs that facebook thread i started:
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― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
"cuzza"
which isn't actually a word.
You definitely tapped into some collective hate with that thread.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
"Desperado"
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0812/eagles_desperado_g_mp_576.jpg
http://youtu.be/iDNtqy0zjJA
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:48 (eleven years ago) link
every youtube clip of this song i listened to sounds terrible. including this one. so, sorry for the sound quality. even the ones labeled HD and REMASTERED. most of them seem to come from the same source? do people just copy other people's youtubes to make their own? i guess they do.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:51 (eleven years ago) link
nice linda ronstadt live version from 1977.
http://youtu.be/oAK5Ids7l5g
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:55 (eleven years ago) link
i still think that langley schools music project version might be my favorite though. so poignant.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:56 (eleven years ago) link
langley schools version is kinda the justification for the eagles
don't like the johnny cash cov tho', doesn't seem like the right song for him at all
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:58 (eleven years ago) link
This is flawless of course. Why on earth did they not release it as a single though? Was that a trend at the time, holding the best thing back for the album, like Gimme Shelter or Stairway to Heaven?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:06 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, this is on another level from the rest of the album. Lyric in the second bridge is one of Henley and Frey's finest: pure prairie depression.
― col, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:10 (eleven years ago) link