lil wayne is annoying

lol

Thats like Eminem "window pain" bad

mighty fine vine

The knock against Weezer's late period albums is that they're so bad they retroactively make Weezer's first albums seem bad, too. Dedication 5 is Lil Wayne's Make Believe.

i think that's because in both cases the things that are terrible about the artists in question were always there, they just weren't all that noticeable. when these annoying quirks became more pronounced in the later material they also became harder to ignore in the earlier stuff.

I still love his early stuff, if anything his quick slide down has made me appreciate TC3 more.

poor lil wayne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye8N1jc6T-k

the lameness of contemporary mainstream rap has def made IANAHBII seem way way better now than it would have relative to '08 era rap

basically wayne and nicki are the only thing i like about very popular rap in 2013 and they were like ... 6th and 7th for me in 2009

wayne has definitely been in dead cat bounce mode with some of the recent stuff. D5 has its problems but really any more than No Ceilings or whatever shit people have decided was actually his last great mixtape now.

tbf he has released thousands and thousands of songs in his career. the inspiration was bound to dry up at some point.

yeah total dead cat bounce for wayne this year

as opposed to 2014 when he'll just be dead

he's good on "beware" and on the song w/ drake on the new 2 chainz album

"rich as fuck" is all production though

i still don't understand what's special about that beat.

the vocal sample mostly

the carter IV might be wayne's "soft parade"

― smang a goon (get it on) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:07 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

turned out to be more his Just Push Play

so....been thinking about this thread lately, cuz I just heard his verse on the 2 Chainz album where he sounds more like Drake imitating him back in 2009 than he sounds like Weezy. It's like buzzsaw grating, y'know. and for a while his insane omnipresence and degraded voice in 2014 made me shy away from everything he did in past years, similar to the OP.

went back to Carter II this week as I was taking a two hour drive and it's not diminished by his future foibles like I feared - particularly "Fly In" and "Tha Mobb", where he legitimately sounds hungry and I can still appreciate his meandering structure. HEre and there, though, a groaner line pops up that we kinda let slide 8 years ago that makes me give pause and go "hmmm, precursor?" Not just talking "dear mr toilet, I'm the shit", either. And it's not heavily interspersed, just a few lines here and there.

anybody ITT revisited any of the first three Carters recently? particularly you, Deej - just curious as to whether this became a legit negative effect after 2011 given how much more terrible shit he released.

Carter III is the peak imo, there's more songs I don't mess with on 2 and I just prefer him as a rapper after.

a lot of his post-IANAHB2 work has been dope.

lil wayne is a national treasure. i never listen to him anymore, but i love the fact that a dude that bonkers was the number one recording artist in the country for a while. also, a lot of his mid-2000s mixtape work along with the first three carter albums are dope as heck.

also have we talked about his deposition yet? all time brattiness, worse than dylan in the 60s. the deposition was for a lawsuit he was filing against the people who made the documentary about him iirc. he is fucking up his own case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT5wi07X4AM

the carter IV might be wayne's "soft parade"

― smang a goon (get it on) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:07 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

turned out to be more his Just Push Play

― Neanderthal, Monday, April 7, 2014 9:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Carter IV is pretty New Jersey. nobody really loved it or bumps any of the songs from it anymore, but it did a mil in a week and outsold Drake's biggest album, which came out around the same time.

I dig Carter IV but I'm probably just an over-tolerant fan lol. I get the criticisms, too many early Drake-style hashtags/ultra-basic punchlines best showcased on the lol-lame intro, but still.

Dedication 4/IANAHB2, though, I can't defend those

best mixtape track of all time. should be in the library of congress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49bhGgKdduk

lil wayne was kind of like a folk hero at my college. people would swap apocryphal stories about his mixtape recording sessions, emphasizing his insane productivity and drug consumption.

the way he always resorts to metaphors of consumption -- "eating" beats, other rappers, etc -- made him very relatable to liberal arts college students, who are like the ultimate consumers.

I got into Wayne in college around the Dedication 2, thought his voice was annoying as f (heh,) then was converted by Lil Weezy Ana Vol. 1 over one summer

still think Drought 3 is a bit scattershot/too drugged-out for its own good though, but there's select cuts I come back to there

the part of 3peat when he keeps saying "i'm me" as if he has to convince himself of the fact is very moving to me.

Lil Wayne's "Hot Topic"-core now

the part of 3peat when he keeps saying "i'm me" as if he has to convince himself of the fact is very moving to me.

― très hip (Treeship), Tuesday, April 8, 2014 12:22 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

don't rule out Wayne forgetting how he started the sentence

"I'm Me" (the song, the phrase) really is the Wayne mission statement though is it not

oh yeah

the existential urgency of separating yourself from the herd is more pronounced in wayne than other rappers, especially when he is claiming to be an alien or a monster or something. what's great about the "i'm me" song is that there is all this angry, heartfelt stuff about how far he had to come to be where he is now -- "I'm from the mud / i am a missile like a scud" -- and then he seamlessly segues into that totally disgusting joke about adult undergarments.

the carter IV might be wayne's "soft parade"

― smang a goon (get it on) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:07 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol who knows wtf i'm talking abt half the time

Due to Jim Morrison's increasing alcoholism and interest in poetry, guitarist Robby Krieger has a stronger presence on The Soft Parade than on any other Doors album from the Morrison era,

Seems similar to what went on with Tha Carter IV, subbing alcohol for promethazine

yeah Krieger's verse on "6 Foot 7 Foot" was dope

"Pop that pussy for a real nigga
Pull out my black card, that's my lil' nigga
Make a movie with your bitch, Steven Spiel nigga
Smoking on Keysh, Cole, gimme me chills nigga"

jesus god

lol yeah that's in the category of supremely lazy "I'm on One"/"No New Friends"/that one Jeremih song verses, I don't know how dude can think that "laid-back" style comes off well

I like the "what's your real name" bit though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmddPo_c2oE#t=193

it's been so long since a wayne song made me this happy that it almost feels weird

huh i'll have to click that

he's gotten to the point where if i see he's a guest verse i won't even listen to the song

he's had some good ones lately, i really like the rick ross single he's on too

wow, shipley endorsement is no joke

"thug cry" is really good. i was in miami for a few weeks right after mastermind dropped and radio there had already picked it up. it sounded really good on the radio so i'm glad it's trickling out.

Think "Bigger Than Life" on the Rich Gang album of all things may be the dividing line between wack/dope recent Wayne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzCm9CXwBTA

thoughts?

like it like i liked IANAHB2

it's ok
i like "Believe Me" w/him and Drake

It's just ok. I like that he's trying, but this one is not up to the level of Believe Me or D'usse.

This beat is crappy