Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

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hi hayden!

tylerw, Friday, 23 August 2013 15:41 (twelve years ago)

btw does anyone have an opinion on Kaki King

i was listening to her album "Glow"

it was instantly...appealing...but i dunno, feels like it's kind of a shallow thing, like a 80s guitar mag record with indie aesthetics or something

she has a good sense of melody tho and can def play really well

everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:19 (twelve years ago)

new thing i wrote in open C9 tuning which is a dope tuning (CGCGCD) - tweak Peter Lang talked about in our lesson from open C (CGCGCE)...anyway still has the good dronely quality of open C but feels a bit more minor and unresolved (almost like DADGAD compared to open D)....anyway trying to get better at alternating bass on the thumb so sometimes trying to write something that does that helps you learn the technique

https://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/open-c9-song

everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:01 (twelve years ago)

Aww sounding good UMS! Alternating bass makes my head hurt, having the independence with the picking fingers while keeping that thumb alternating is something I have trouble imagining doing myself right now. But yeah, you're getting there man, I like that tune (and tuning).

grandavis, Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:15 (twelve years ago)

Really like that "Anodyne" song, listening to it again right now. Love the pacing and space of it.

grandavis, Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:24 (twelve years ago)

nice. i dig the joseph spence song too.

ogmor, Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:51 (twelve years ago)

yeah alternating bass is really hard IMO. it's one of those things that i think is way harder than ppl think because those kinda ragtimey guys that do it on everything make it seem so easy and breezy

even this i'm not doing a ton of syncopation, which is where is really starts to get bad.

everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:13 (twelve years ago)

(&thanks for the encouragement)

everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:13 (twelve years ago)

it's weird, i think it's just how you learn; i can play alternating bass fine but even rudimentary chord changes are rendered awkward & strained in my hands

ogmor, Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:19 (twelve years ago)

yeah i guess also everyone's brain is kinda wired differently too probably

everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:22 (twelve years ago)

Can't tell how my brain is wired yet, I just keep trying to practice more and more and see what sticks when it comes to the solo-stuff. Pretty undisciplined though, I am just focussing on playing a lot for the time being, and when plateaus come (which of coures always happens) I will have to decide what needs some actual homework/exercises.

grandavis, Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:25 (twelve years ago)

I'm proud of a handful of songs I've written with DGDGmBE but many aren't appropriate to the thread. Not like I have good recordings of any of them yet either way.

Evan, Thursday, 29 August 2013 20:27 (twelve years ago)

i for one would like to hear bad recordings of non-thread-appropriate DFDGmBE songs

ogmor, Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:43 (twelve years ago)

yeah dude, no rules

tylerw, Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:44 (twelve years ago)

Hah yeah Evan, fully on board with listening to your stuff. I think any alternately tuned guitar stuff is certainly fair enough game.

Can say that I am excited that anyone has taken the time to listen the longish live sets that I've posted, and I have been into everything others have posted. Some good stuff in there for sure. Plus, you dig Polvo and this can only mean good things.

grandavis, Thursday, 29 August 2013 22:46 (twelve years ago)

my wifey wants to record acoustic versions of her songs; she plays mostly in DADGAD and DADFAD. maybe if i can figure out how to get 'em off the four track and onto the internet, i will post them here.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Thursday, 29 August 2013 22:47 (twelve years ago)

Do it Ian. Hey, I am still kinda floored that you have a show flyer from a show I never played. Is there any way I can get a copy of that?

grandavis, Thursday, 29 August 2013 22:50 (twelve years ago)

i will send it to you, email me your address at dr.carl.sagan at gmail!! it is my gift.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Thursday, 29 August 2013 23:13 (twelve years ago)

Cool man, can't do it right now gotta run but thanks, I really appreciate it! Will be in touch tomorrow.

grandavis, Thursday, 29 August 2013 23:16 (twelve years ago)

no rush!
i'll send it out monday on my normal mail run.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Thursday, 29 August 2013 23:20 (twelve years ago)

i for one would like to hear bad recordings of non-thread-appropriate DFDGmBE songs

― ogmor, Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah dude, no rules

― tylerw, Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hah yeah Evan, fully on board with listening to your stuff. I think any alternately tuned guitar stuff is certainly fair enough game.

Can say that I am excited that anyone has taken the time to listen the longish live sets that I've posted, and I have been into everything others have posted. Some good stuff in there for sure. Plus, you dig Polvo and this can only mean good things.

― grandavis, Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thanks guys! Someday soon, I hope! I've been trying to figure out my m-box for months.

Evan, Friday, 30 August 2013 09:51 (twelve years ago)

Only just catching up with this thread but lemme say that PG Six's The Well Of Memory is a gorgeous record and one of my favourite records from the whole 00's britfolk revival, I really should catch up with more of his stuff

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Friday, 30 August 2013 12:53 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i1Djvgvqs8

^ Hey, here's a nice little Martin Carthy instruction video for all you pickers. Going to go and see him play in a tiny pub here in a couple of months time, something of a treat to look forward to.

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Friday, 30 August 2013 13:03 (twelve years ago)

Wow that's amazing you can see a legend like that in a pub

everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 August 2013 13:32 (twelve years ago)

Oh I know! Last time he played here was in some seriously massive exhibition space iirc with some of his relatives, but I'm pretty sure he would prefer to play small intimate places - much more suited to the scale of his music. The thing that boggles me is that it didn't sell out in the blink of an eye.

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Friday, 30 August 2013 13:41 (twelve years ago)

that carthy vid is great. i saw him and swarbrick do a duo show when i was a teenager, don't think my brain was quite ready for it, but I'd love to catch him again some day.

tylerw, Friday, 30 August 2013 20:11 (twelve years ago)

Hi,
just found this podcast about "Psychedelic Appalachian" on WNYC http://www.wnyc.org/shows/newsounds/articles/new-sounds-podcasts/2013/aug/27/psychedelic-appalachia-special-podcast/ first aired last year.

They somehow pulled some information from my website (or from all over the internet) because they used a photo I took and connected Bachman's album Seven Pines to the "Battle of Seven Pines" (as he is a "civil war obsessive" blabla). I don't know if he ever talked about this connection (the album name and this battle), because it was something I made up on a review on this album and when I asked him he said he didn't thought about that battle in first place (if ever).

I guess the program doesn't provide anything new to you guys, but maybe it's a nice listening.

Nikolaus Höhle, Saturday, 31 August 2013 06:54 (twelve years ago)

Here is a young guy from Atlanta, playing some old songs.
http://mosesnesh.bandcamp.com/
and Zachary Cale is releasing a new album soon:
http://zacharycale.bandcamp.com/
it's maybe not really related to this thread, but I like his guitar playing and his songs a lot.

DFBM (Nikolaus Höhle), Saturday, 31 August 2013 07:00 (twelve years ago)

here's some tunes I made. i think ums described some of his music as 'stuff like in this thread but not as good'. i'd categorize my stuff under that descriptor (and add that i think mine are not as good as ums's songs and that he is dang good.) in any case, i personally like these tunes a lot more than most anything else i've done. anyway, very humbly, here they are:

http://stevepalmer.bandcamp.com/album/fables-of-the-feral-boys

P.S. - don't wanna spam the shit out of this thread. if this isn't welcome feel free to delete it.

global tetrahedron, Monday, 2 September 2013 23:46 (twelve years ago)

Hey Global, I want to say that I have honestly enjoyed all of the stuff you have posted, and listened to other things on your page, so I look forward to hearing this for sure. My vote is that we should all stop apologizing for posting stuff, cause I think most people are cool with it here (as long as it doesn't turn into a shitstorm of people showing up just to post tunes here and then not participate within the context of the thread). I guess that can be a fine line, but so far it hasn't been too bad and I, for one, hope we all help spur each other on to get better and post more stuff.

This all easy for me to say, cause I post stuff as well. I am happy to stop if it annoys others as well, but again, it seems most folks are cool with it and even check stuff out that gets posted generally. Speak up if this is not the case please! I know that I, for one, really appreciate any of the feedback I get, it is really helpful and encouraging, cause I find playing solo pretty damn initimidating.

grandavis, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 14:43 (twelve years ago)

yeah no need to apologize -- post your stuff!
i dig that new zachary cale record -- he's obviously a singer-songwriter kinda dude, but i imagine he's pretty familiar w/ the takoma scene/style.

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 14:47 (twelve years ago)

cool. let's all post stuff then, NO APOLOGIES, NO RULES, MAN, ETC.

anybody brought up Chris Forsyth in here? Love his stuff, I wish I could record stuff that'd sound more like him- just kinda trancey, repetitious but avoiding boredom due to a judicious sense of taste. I feel like I've seen his name around here but it may have been in another thread. East Kensington Rundown is my jam. Also, loving Harris Newman, dig the bits of dissonance he throws in, seems like he relishes plucking away at a weird sounding chord, always respect that.

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:20 (twelve years ago)

Lots of Chris Forsyth action in this thread generally, and agreed on all fronts. He hits a ton of my sweet spots without really doing any one thing (i.e., being tied to a "school" or something for lack of a better way to describe what I mean). The live sets with his full band have been great, definitely check them out if you haven't. Most recent one is here:

http://soundcloud.com/solar-motel-band/sets/solar-motel-band-08-22-2013

grandavis, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:38 (twelve years ago)

I really like Zach Cale's stuff -- he's a brooklyn dude so I've gotten to see him play a lot over the years. He's definitely knowledgeable about Fahey, Kottke, etc. And he's a great guitarist and songwriter IMO. Sometimes he plays with a band and sometimes he plays solo but it's always great..

ian, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:44 (twelve years ago)

good way to check him out - http://dyingforbadmusic.com/dfbm-14-zachary-cale.phtml

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:45 (twelve years ago)

& yeah the forsyth stuff has been blowing my mind this year. the forthcoming solar motel LP should is incredible.

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:46 (twelve years ago)

really liking this global

everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:48 (twelve years ago)

the forthcoming solar motel LP should is incredible
not sure where that "should" came from

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:49 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, Forsyth's playing is great, and the band sound he is going for is just right up my damn alley. I am definitely now going to the Paradise of Bachelors day party at Hopscotch, so I am gonna get to check out Forsyth & the Solar Motel Band live. I haven't been this excited about a show in a long time.

grandavis, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:50 (twelve years ago)

Also about two tracks in Global, and so far I love it. Some great 12-string action, will report back more once I've checked the whole set of songs out. You and U.M.S. have to do shows together, would be a great bill.

grandavis, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:51 (twelve years ago)

thanks all for listening and (presumably) liking it! i am pretty proud of them, was going to do 'good' recordings of everything later (these are all just on the built in mic on my tascam) but then months later i found these kinda sketch/demo tracks had a certain ambiance to them that i liked, so here they are.

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:19 (twelve years ago)

yeah it sounds really cool

everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:27 (twelve years ago)

any of you dudes heard this record (or anything else by this guy?)
http://assets.boomkat.com/images/100733/333.jpg
a friend just recommended it to me, listening now, really beautiful. windham hill-ish, i suppose, but with some definite raga-y moves too.

tylerw, Thursday, 5 September 2013 19:39 (twelve years ago)

here he is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqTmo6d8y5Q

tylerw, Thursday, 5 September 2013 19:40 (twelve years ago)

haha i was gonna say that album cover screams windham hill

btw if i wasn't lazy and stuff, is there an oral history of windham hill? that would be interesting.

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 19:50 (twelve years ago)

Guy is definitely a good player, it's fun watching his right hand in that vid. Note the turtleneck, and the album title "acoustic adventures". The music sounds like that, which is kinda cool in it's own way.

For real, one of the most interesting bios I have read is Yanni's. Dude is WAY different than I imagined based on his new age/PBS rep, and really he is kind of amazing (I had never heard any Yanni when I read it, it was given to me as a joke gift and or course I read it right away cause I am a sucker for a free music bio). I imagine that a Windham Hill history might be similarly interesting.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:00 (twelve years ago)

yeah dude Yanni used to be a hard rocker in Minneapolis!

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:15 (twelve years ago)

He sure did! And he taught himself to swim and then went and made the Greek national swim team (before leaving for the States). You should read it, Minnesota time is well covered.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:23 (twelve years ago)

kinda pisses me off MN doesn't celebrate him! all we talk is prince replacements prince replacements dylan replacements prince dylan dylan prince

yanni sold way more than the replacements

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:26 (twelve years ago)

Hah, I am telling you you will dig that bio. I mean, it is kind of maddening at times (I read it a long time ago so I don't remember it super clearly), but he made his own luck for sure. Dude was a force of nature when it came to believing in himself, and then the sales showed up. Of course, it is absolutely unnacceptable to "like" Yanni for most people, but whatever, he lived a crazy life that you would never know from his music. I think he has gotten in some hot water recently or something, so I don't wanna vouch for him as a human being or anything.

Not really that into the Replacements generally. Some great tunes but a lot I can live without too. Still don't listen to Yanni mind you, but that bio is gold.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:34 (twelve years ago)


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