Bernie Taupin Is A Godawful Lyricist Whose Lyrics Sound Amazing Coming Out Of Elton John's Mouth — ILM ARTIST POLL #41: ELTON JOHN

Well done, everyone. Top 2 spot on.

(Not keen on "Tiny Dancer" but maybe if it had been a hit over here in '71 (the UK was pretty much ignoring Elton circa Madman), I'd feel differently about it. As it is, I'd never heard it until Almost Famous.)

My ballot:
Songs

01. Someone Saved My Life Tonight
02. Ego
03. Are You Ready For Love?
04. Philadelphia Freedom
05. Honky Cat
06. Burn Down The Mission
07. Tonight
08. Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
09. Sixty Years On
10. Funeral For A Friend / Love Lies Bleeding

11. Rocket Man (I think it's going to be a long long time)
12. Nobody Wins
13. Grey Seal
14. I Feel Like a Bullet (In the Gun of Robert Ford)
15. Better Off Dead
16. Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me
17. Passengers
18. Madman Across The Water
19. Take Me To The Pilot
20. Skyline Pigeon

LPs
1. 17-11-70
2. Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
3. The Union [w/ Leon Russell] <-- placement is trolling but there is some good stuff on this, check it out
4. Honky Château
5. Greatest Hits, Volume II

1, 4 and 5 above are the first EJ records I bought, within days of each other, so nostalgia's playing a big part here. In retrospect, I should have found room for Blue Moves.

Worst songs
1. Candle In The Wind '97
2. Grow Some Funk Of Your Own
3. Circle of Life

Thanks to J Fever for running this, long overdue, poll.

"Nobody Wins "!

haha oh man I just saw the post where Shakey says it's "kind of a toss-up" whether Elton John or David Bowie is a better piano player

Yeah, A-plus to Shakey for making like two dozen posts in character as OG rockist strawman before anyone bothered to point it out. I do actually agree that some of the slower songs can be on the samey side, but the rest was just bonkers. I say this as someone who's had ''Ballad of a Well-Known Gun'' and ''My Father's Gun'' on alternating mental shuffle for the past eight hours, so I just can't take the criticism as far as ''oh yeah these songs have nothing at all to offer and are boring and forgettable.'' Dude knew a hook, and the arrangements/playing add so much detail and little micro-hooks and surprises. Yeah, they don't usually need to go past four minutes, but there's a lot more in those four minutes than you'd expect to find.

the chinese piano re: honky cat = pinnacle of shakey ITT

Note to self, when I have a computer in front of me rather than a phone, write out five-paragraph, line-by-line explanation of why ''Captain Fantastic'' is one of the greatest songs in Elton's catalog.

I'd be interested to read it, because that song means nothing to me.

Consulting my newly purchased book of Billboard Top Ten charts, I note that Captain Fantastic, after debuting at #1 and staying there for six weeks and returning for a seventh about six weeks later, fell out of the top ten at the end of September 1975. In November, Rock of the Westies debuted at #1: by any standards phenomenal productivity and sales figures. No wonder he burned out a year later.

I was going to be all "LOL u bought a book of Billboard charts?! hahah" ...and then I saw it was you. As you were. :)

Elton's new album The Diving Board is out today, lyrics by Bernie, production by T-Bone Burnett, stripped down rhythm section consisting of Jack Ashford of the Funk Brothers on drums and Raphael Saadiq (!) on bass. not amazing or anything but pretty enjoyable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UttbDHa1uSg

Was planning on giving it a spin soon.

Barry Walters gives EJ the icon treatment and rather well too:

http://www.emusic.com/music-news/icon/emusic-icon-elton-john/

Elton talks...lots of unexpected choices. Great comments.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/elton-john-my-life-in-20-songs-20131010?utm_source=dailynewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter

"Crocodile Rock"
Don't Shoot Me I'm Only the Piano Player, 1973

Don't Shoot Me I'm Only the Piano Player was my first U.K. Number One album. It had "Daniel," which was pure pop, but there were also songs like "Elderberry Wine" and "Teacher I Need You." And of course it spawned "Crocodile Rock," which was the song that probably changed the critics' opinion of me. It was a really blatant homage to Speedy Gonzales and all the great Fifties and Sixties records that we used to love, like Danny and the Juniors' "At the Hop." My career wasn't about "Crocodile Rock" – it was just a one-off thing – but it became a huge hit record, and in the long run, it became a negative for me, because people said, "Oh, fucking 'Crocodile Rock.' " I'd never started off as a hit writer, and I didn't know what a hit was, and it's evidenced on my first four albums. Rolling Stone reviewed it and gave it two stars, and I said, "Oh, fuck off." It was a great fucking pop record. Shut the fuck up. - haha fair enough

''Speedy Gonzales''?

http://youtu.be/O4HT51a4VHY

haha wow that is really blatant

That is an awful, awful song. But wow re: the Elton connection.

i wish there was an audio version of this interview in which scarface recites some classic bernie taupin lyrics.

Oh, and Speedy Gonzales to Bruce Springsteen, also.

Finally digging into Blue Moves after ages of dismissing it based on the cover art and not knowing any of the songs, figured it would just be a wash of faceless dreary ballads. But actually there's some rockin' here, and some really cool arrangements and musical surprises. It's very very well-recorded, for sure. Still getting to know it so I can't call out any specific moments, but I kinda think it's at least better than Caribou as a listening experience, even though it's nearly twice as long, largely underwritten (so many instrumentals!) and lacks that album's two big hits (both true grab-you-by-the-ears standouts). I dunno, it just seems less stupid.

If the same material had just been worked on longer, filling out the instrumentals as memorable songs in themselves, who knows what might have been? It came out one year after Rock of the Westies, also an album with some problems; if he'd been on a 1990s release schedule, the best material from those two together could have yielded a platter at least as good as Honky Chateau or Don't Shoot Me.... Just need to do something about the sleeves...

I never enjoyed recording studios! I loved the process of writing, but I never enjoyed the process of being in the studio. I always felt like a caged lion

--bernie taupin

RFI: With search engine disabled, can't seem to find the thread the title quote is from

it was the elton john voting thread and it was my quote and i can't seem to find it either. but if i had a copy editor, it would've been shortened to "bernie taupin writes godawful lyrics that sound amazing coming out of elton john's mouth."

It might be on the voting thread, but he first time you said it was about a decade ago.

Found it: Elton John

Elton has many great, weird songs.

Hang the fuck on, did 'Song for Guy' not place!?

The worst Elton John mega single.

No room for Captain Fantastic.

^^^ baffling!

(i'd put it #1, is all)

I really like Crocodile Rock :(

My dad is a big Elton John fan and I loved that song when I was like 6. Ditto for the Lion King soundtrack songs, I grew up listening to those. I just can’t actively hate them. I don’t really listen to them anymore but I don’t think they are his worst. Candle in the Wind is really bad though, kudos on that one.

Boy, he sure had a lot of top forty singles, eh?

OTM about 'Your Song', I'm seriously fucking sick of hearing it at this stage.

elton on bernie:

He comes from the wilds of Lincolnshire, I come from the suburbs of London. He lives in Santa Barbara and he’s literally won competitions for roping cattle. I collect antique porcelain and the only way you’d get me on the back of a horse is at gunpoint. Neither of us can write if the other is in the room. But there’s a weird bond between us that I felt the minute I opened the envelope – I could just write music to his words straight away, without even thinking about it – and it’s lasted over 50 years.

("the envelope" referring to a guy at liberty records in london randomly handing elton an envelope full of bernie lyrics in 1967.)

what a great piece

had no interest in seeing this but if herself is on board then I’ll give it a gander

Taron Egerton and Alden Ehrenreich are the same guy, right?

i think so yes

r.i.p. Caribou, you deserved better

feeling this post today. not mentioned anywhere in this thread: the gorgeous "pinky." such a perfectly arranged/played/recorded chorus. i want to take a bubble bath in it. the lyrics are classic bernie, the chorus consisting of four lines that defy you to guess what they have to do with each other. but the last bit of the last verse is killing me right now: "oh it's ten below zero / and we're about / to abandon / our plans for the day." i wish i voted for it.

I thought I did mention it?!

hmm, maybe on the voting thread?

I thought of the Elton poll crew watching his highness shuffle around the stage tonight for the farewell

did anyone else tune in? his band is so good