Bernie Taupin Is A Godawful Lyricist Whose Lyrics Sound Amazing Coming Out Of Elton John's Mouth — ILM ARTIST POLL #41: ELTON JOHN

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"We All Fall In Love Sometimes" has been today's discovery. Strong vocal, excellent guitar picking.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link

and the mellotron! Subtle embellishment.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:17 (ten years ago) link

His ''Lucy'' is the other one in this batch which I voted for. Didn't expect it to make the cut tbh.

It actually made the most-hated list, fwiw.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:21 (ten years ago) link

yeah i voted for it for most hated. not that wild about the original truth be told. of the big, ill advised covers of legendary rock songs elton released as singles i think i might like (or 'like') 'pinball wizard' most, it at least has the tie-in to the movie, i can enjoy it like a lesser track from 'grease' or whatever. plus the shoes.

balls, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:51 (ten years ago) link

as much as I love Elton you couldn't pay me enough money to listen to Pinball Wizard

I can't. I just... I can't

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link

Hahhahaa oops re: most hated. Well I stand by it. Sooo, jooo much better than ''Pinball Wizard,'' which both mangles the song and happens to be nigh unlistenable as well. SHAH PLAS A MEEN PIN-BAULL!!! Jesus, man, just shut the fuck up. I do sorta get the 'Grease' argument though, it's like the shit from the Sgt. Pepper's movie.

Hopefully we can agree that ''Johnny B. Goode'' is dire.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link

Er, ''soooo,'' not ''joooo''

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link

As much as a few of the '70s hits annoy me ("Daniel", "Crocodile Rock", "Island Girl") they're minor annoyances; I just can't outright hate 'em. The craft and dedication he put into them are perceptible. Can't say the same of the later dreck, however.

chris_coolidge, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:11 (ten years ago) link

yeah tbh a real 'worst' list would be composed of certain album tracks from the carter and reagan administrations

balls, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link

I thought I was the Bally table king....

Lee626, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:25 (ten years ago) link

Would Play.

Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:28 (ten years ago) link

They had one of these in the arcade I went to when I was in middle school. Can't remember if I actually played it though.

Lee626, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:30 (ten years ago) link

None of my 3 worst charted, so I'll list them here:
Ego
Bite Your Lip
Heartache All Over The World

Also voted "Crocodile Rock" on my Top 20. Maybe it has something to do with living through AM radio in the 70's. When Elton ruled the format.

jetfan, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:36 (ten years ago) link

Hi..

Are You Ready For Love?

pretty good Philly soul feel, can totally hear the Spinners or the Chi-Lites rockin this. fairly standard straightforward lyrics nothing special(...)
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:39 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also, someone upthread noted the song's revival thanks to a remix, I'm fairly sure it's the exact same version as before.

Also, maybe hindsight comes into play, but the most remarkable thing about it is it seems to be about 'turning' some object of affection to Elt's 'way of thinking'.. "I'll write a symphony, just for you and me, if you let me love you" like, sort of "you never know, you might enjoy it", which is quite possibly why it rang clearer in these 'enlightened times'

There was a bunch of these 'philly soul' things that got revived, Leo Sayer's "Thunder in my heart" was the other one but that was truncated to a couple of lines from the original song (the musical feel remained), which was annoying as it's a really great song..

And yes, I remember that pinball machine..

Mark G, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 08:32 (ten years ago) link

would tilt

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 10:28 (ten years ago) link

xp
Leo original lives on at Radio 2, Mark. Ken Bruce plays it about once a week!

Jeff W, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 10:37 (ten years ago) link

btw, proposed replacements for the bummer thread title:

Huntin' That Horny Back POLLed
She POLLed My Songs Last Night, Preflight
Voting Seems To Be The Hardest POLL
Cir-POLL of Life
I Feel Like A Ballot In The POLL of ILM
Solar POLLstige A Gammon
I Thank The Lord For The People I Have POLLed
POLL Me Closer, ILXor
POLLadelphia Freedom, I Luh Huh Huhv You...Yes I Do

admittedly those are some of my worst ever, but still. much love to johnny fever but it's weird for the laudatory poll to be built on a foundation of tears. hard to write a song with bitter fingers, etc.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 10:40 (ten years ago) link

I Feel Like A Ballot In The POLL of ILM
^this one I can get behind

Jeff W, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 10:42 (ten years ago) link

And there's no-one there to raise them ... if you POLL

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 10:47 (ten years ago) link

POLL some funk of your own
and it's no sacrifice, just a simple POLL
POLL me closer, Tiny ILXOR

but I did like: "Solar POLLstige A Gammon"

Mark G, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:00 (ten years ago) link

Xxpost Maybe ''...In The Ballot of Elton John,'' I guess.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:10 (ten years ago) link

haha ''POLL some funk of your own, ilxor'' was the name of one of my pre-ballot playlists!

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:10 (ten years ago) link

I submitted an all-'70s ballot and I'm a casual fan but I have to say I'm really struggling with the '80s tracks here, Shakey otm about most of these (although my own most hated track was 'Made in England').

On the other hand 'Holiday Inn' placing is a welcome surprise.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 12:12 (ten years ago) link

POLL some funk of your own
POLL me closer, Tiny ILXOR

^^ one of these

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 12:13 (ten years ago) link

In all honesty, I've never understood the compulsion to force "poll" puns into poll titles. There's so much more you can do with someone's lyrics.

clemenza, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 12:54 (ten years ago) link

ask Elton.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 12:59 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I guess an Elton John poll wasn't the best time to make that point.

clemenza, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:16 (ten years ago) link

Can Bernie fax us a poll title?

some dude, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:16 (ten years ago) link

Well, A Few Of The Lyrics, Well, They've Got Me Quite Cross: An Elton John Poll

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link

...but then again, no.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link

But Then Again, POLL.

the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link

Life isn't everything... there's also the Elton John Poll Results!

Jeff W, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link

When are you gonna come down, When are you going to POLL

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link

IN FACT, IT'S POLLED AS HELL

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link

(for the record i read the thread title as laudatory and I am 100% okay with it and don't get the fuss but if there's an opportunity to play the Lowest Form of Humor game damn if i'm not gonna play it)

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link

40. "I Feel Like A Bullet (In The Gun Of Robert Ford)" (1975) [90 points, 5 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEfReTjAcyg

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link

one of his best ballads

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link

Almost voted for it, but--brace yourself, there's a great joke coming up here--couldn't quite pull the trigger. I used to like it, did something I don't normally do before voting--gave it a listen--and it wasn't quite as strong as I'd remembered.

clemenza, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link

39. "Razor Face" (1971) [93 points, 4 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqUZmJIK6n4

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link

xp
Agreed this (Bullet) is a great song, 'though the arrangement on RoTW is a bit heavy handed. Tries to the same trick pulled off so effortlessly with "Someone Saved My Life Tonight" but it doesn't quite work this time. When Elton did it solo live, with just piano, that's what sold the song for me.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link

38. "I've Seen That Movie Too" (1973) [95 points, 5 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMJtNwHNM5k

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link

"I Feel Like A Bullet (In The Gun Of Robert Ford)"
"like a corn in a field"?! gtfo with that shit. The first verse seems sonically reminiscent of Paul Simon to my ears, with the bass/piano/vibes combo (although Simon would never do that leap into the falsetto in the chorus - too melodramatic for him - it works well for Elton). Of course by the time we get around to the third chorus we're in more bombastic territory. Listening to Elton's ballads I usually have a hard time not hearing them more as Broadway than as rock, the schmaltz and heavy-handedness seems of a particularly stage-show like theatricality. Lyrically this isn't bad for Taupin. I don't get the titular image but apart from that it scans well.

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link

"Razor Face"
Realizing that I prefer it when Elton gets shrill with the falsetto + harmonies. I dunno why, can't put my finger on who it reminds me of. This is good though, has that mid-tempo 70s throb, nice guitar work. Unnecessary accordian, not sure what that's supposed to be evocative of (old people?), seems out of place in the arrangement.

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link

Realizing that I prefer it when Elton gets shrill with the falsetto + harmonies

which he does on "Robert Ford" on the "I know what a paid assassin is" bit

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link

"I've Seen That Movie Too"
I think I dozed off about halfway through this, so repetitious. what is that, six choruses at the end? wtf. briefly roused by the backwards guitar screeching in the middle and for once the lyrics aren't terrible they're actually a bit clever with the bitterness.

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

37. "High Flying Bird" (1973) [108 points, 4 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6ien507T3Y

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link

Definitely in a rut of ballads right here.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link

xpost

Yay!

the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link

I voted for this one. Had never even heard it till I bought a used copy of the album a few months ago.

clemenza, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link


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