It's really wrong to aim this stuff at Dinosaur Jr., but that insufferable punk and classic rock fan "authenticity"/"this is REAL music" attitude was also present in 90s indie, and I was happy to realize that it apparently doesn't hold sway anymore.
― Dan I., Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:42 (eleven years ago) link
oh shit i somehow just realized I'm talking about rockism haha
― Dan I., Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
There is a massive part of Arcade Fire/Sigur Ros/Radiohead fandom that is all about the ''authenticity/this is REAL music'' attitude.
It's probably just easier to dismiss today.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:52 (eleven years ago) link
it seems i have finally discovered the vortex of RONG
― no one should be offended by the lyrics in this song (stevie), Sunday, 18 August 2013 09:39 (eleven years ago) link
it is this thread revive
Hand It Over is so great.
a million times, yes. messy, heartbroken, dark and dippy in places, but so great.
not enough sixties in the music for my taste.
the sixties were a decade of shocking diversity and great giant leaps and accelerated evolution in a myriad of musical forms. i guess what you're saying is dinosaur don't adequately echo miles davis' shift from acoustic to electric music, right?
― no one should be offended by the lyrics in this song (stevie), Sunday, 18 August 2013 09:41 (eleven years ago) link
That guy out of The National has a beard
― PaulTMA, Sunday, 18 August 2013 11:06 (eleven years ago) link
lets face it he means beatles pop
xp
― ..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 18 August 2013 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
"You got your incense and peppermints in my cinnamon girl!" "You got your cinnamon girl in my strawberry alarm clock!"
― how's life, Sunday, 18 August 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
Today's musicians really don't saying about food very much, do they?
― how's life, Sunday, 18 August 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, even Dinosaur He. Was singing about raisans and turnips. Whats anybody bringing to the table nowadays?
― how's life, Sunday, 18 August 2013 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
it's been forever since i heard a good milkshake song
― j., Sunday, 18 August 2013 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
Bug contains so many great jams, love the record.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 3 November 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link
Maybe it's my age but I genuinely feel that they never surpassed 'You're living All Over Me" and believe me, I have purchased much DiJr since - Sebadoh, solo stuff etc.
The context of those guitar solos were truly new to my ears back then. Now they're like, "Here we go again, squall...squiggle, squeak ...." And Mascis' voice was better then? Oh and the tunes. Lyrics, i'm not too fussed.
Perhaps I should try again?
Is the remastered version of YLAOM any good?
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link
It was definitely fresher back then in all those categories. Though I still enjoy the recent stuff too! Some really amazing songs on the first comeback album notably.
― Evan, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link
I love pretty much all their albums, but YLAOM is by a huge degree their best
― NYC if you didn't know was taken over by skeleton hipsters in the past (stevie), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link
For me Bug is pretty close, too.
― Evan, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link
Uh, at the risk of ruining the lovefest for their 80s stuff, I enjoy their reunion records more.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link
I'll get even weirder and say that I think his most recent solo album on Sub Pop ("Tied to a Star") is one of my favorite things he's done!
Soft spot for Where You Been, just because of the timing of its release.
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link
I love both of the solo records.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link
YLAOM is definitely the best, bug is a close second. i can't really listen to the solo mascis "dinosaur jr" stuff anymore even though i dig recent solo mascis. the reunion stuff is perennially on my list of stuff to listen to but i never get around to it
― marcos, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
as far as the sebadoh stuff goes i think the freed weed is all i need. winners & losers is also pretty good. whenever i think of the type of dope barlow smoked nonstop during the freed weed i imagine it is the driest brownest seeds & stems schwag ever, right? there ain't no fuckin way barlow as smoking anything kind.
― marcos, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link
Tied To A Star is excellent!
I interviewed J when the first three LPs got reissued, and he said, re: Bug: “I interviewed Ozzy Osbourne once, and he said he hated Sabotage, that it just reminded him of Sabbath recording with lawyers sat in the studio. I guess I feel the same way about Bug.” I love Post and Freak Scene, obvs, but its the lesser album of that early trilogy to me.
― NYC if you didn't know was taken over by skeleton hipsters in the past (stevie), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link
Stevie, do you know if Mascis is touring w/ a band here in January? Must admit, not so much into J as acoustic minstrel
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
Press release doesn't state clearly, though I must say I've seen J play solo before, and it was pretty remarkable.
― NYC if you didn't know was taken over by skeleton hipsters in the past (stevie), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
Thanks, couldn't see any info on his website either - but you're selling me on it now (he's playing a nice venue in Glasgow)
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link
I saw him play the Underworld circa the Fog album, on his lonesome, and he wasn't really all that unplugged - strums acoustic while singing, but then cranks a pedal and fires up for the solos. That might not be your cup of tea, but it certainly was mine!
― NYC if you didn't know was taken over by skeleton hipsters in the past (stevie), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
no, heavy on the solos = exactly what i want out of a j mascis gig
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/oj24H0F.jpg
― nate woolls, Friday, 6 May 2016 11:40 (eight years ago) link
dude better have a valid handicap parking permit, is all I'm saying
― bernard snowy, Friday, 6 May 2016 11:46 (eight years ago) link
jay
― nxd, Friday, 6 May 2016 11:50 (eight years ago) link
question for people who know: are the other reunion albums anywhere near as good as Farm, or should I be checking out stuff from their original run instead? (I got the Ear-Bleeding Country comp when it came out years ago, so I've heard and enjoyed 'the hits' at least; I'm more curious about consistency/listenability of entire albums)
― bernard snowy, Friday, 6 May 2016 11:51 (eight years ago) link
J M8SC15
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 6 May 2016 11:52 (eight years ago) link
bernard: You're Living All Over Me is a psychedelic masterpiece, their best perhaps. Where You Been probs the best of their Warners output, and very strong.
― Elvis Santana (stevie), Friday, 6 May 2016 12:01 (eight years ago) link
i wish he had bought a vw rabbit instead so i could make a little fury things joke
― dynamicinterface, Friday, 6 May 2016 12:24 (eight years ago) link
xp yeah I like Where You Been, that's the one other album I have... but there's no excuse for my not having sought out YLAOM before now. I guess I know what I'll be getting into this summer!
― bernard snowy, Friday, 6 May 2016 13:30 (eight years ago) link
xp Golf and Rabbit are the same thing.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 6 May 2016 13:31 (eight years ago) link
― bernard snowy, Friday, May 6, 2016 6:51 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
About the reunion albums: If you like Farm, I Believe In Sky is more in the same vein. The hard songs are a bit harder, but the songwriting is there.
Beyond is a good deal fuzzier, probably not as good as Farm, but some amazing tracks--"We're Not Alone," "Almost Ready," "This Is All I Came to Do," "It's Me"
They're not as strange or brilliant as Bug or You're Livin' All Over Me, but they're great straightforward rock albums and worth checking out
― thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Friday, 6 May 2016 13:38 (eight years ago) link
I like Beyond a lot. stevie's picks for 80s and 90s are OTM. tbh I like all their albums to some degree. The 2 after Where You Been are probably my least favourite overall but they don't suck.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 6 May 2016 13:39 (eight years ago) link
they're working on a new album.
― scott seward, Friday, 6 May 2016 13:40 (eight years ago) link
bug bug bug bug bug bug
shoulda boughta bug
― contenderizer, Friday, 6 May 2016 13:43 (eight years ago) link
I genuinely like all their albums and think they all have good songs and interesting moments. Green Mind has been kind of written out of the band's history, but it's got incredible songs and it's really fun and varied.
Without A Sound is the one I'd avoid; weakest material (ironically on the album with their biggest hit). Beyond is in hindsight a little weak, too, but I like I Bet On Sky as much as Farm.
― Evan R, Friday, 6 May 2016 14:09 (eight years ago) link
Even the Whatever's Cool With Me EP is pretty sensational
― Evan R, Friday, 6 May 2016 14:10 (eight years ago) link
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, May 6, 2016 2:31 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha what? that's dumb. now i have to think of a joke
― dynamicinterface, Friday, 6 May 2016 14:23 (eight years ago) link
The Wagen
― real orgone kid (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2016 14:34 (eight years ago) link
i really don't love bug. freak scene is great. post is great. the rest i could live without.
― Elvis Santana (stevie), Friday, 6 May 2016 14:49 (eight years ago) link
saw them a few times when it came out and 'yeah we know' was always a huge high point of their set for me
― real orgone kid (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2016 14:55 (eight years ago) link
my pal bob fay got together with lou recently and went over old unreleased deluxx folk implosion stuff. they want to put it out. for people who are into that sort of thing...(i know some people who like that stuff the most, actually.)
― scott seward, Friday, 6 May 2016 15:42 (eight years ago) link
Green Mind has been kind of written out of the band's history, but it's got incredible songs and it's really fun and varied.Even the Whatever's Cool With Me EP is pretty sensational― Evan R, Friday, May 6, 2016 7:10 AM (1 hour ago)
― Evan R, Friday, May 6, 2016 7:10 AM (1 hour ago)
green mind and the 8-song version of whatever's cool are my favorite dinos besides you're livin all over me and bug bug bug bug bug. and "just like heaven".
― Francis Ford Cupola (contenderizer), Friday, 6 May 2016 15:58 (eight years ago) link
i still love the debut tbh
― Elvis Santana (stevie), Friday, 6 May 2016 16:24 (eight years ago) link